How have you been affected by the Tran's community?

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As there are so many posts on here that discuss Transgenderism, has anyone been directly affected by the Tran's community, good or bad?
I'm quite young and only know one Tran's gender person, as far as I'm aware.

Despite the beard your friend is very unlikely to code male on anything other than a superficial glance. I'm sure she'll be fine in the ladies.

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But statistically some men are dangerous to women (regardless of how they present themselves) but we don't know which ones. Just as some adults are dangerous to children but we don't know which ones.

Safeguarding is about putting boundaries around vulnerable people to minimise risk. I'm not a paedophile but never objected to DBS checks or following safeguarding guidelines when I worked with children and young people because I know some adults are. Decent people respect the boundaries of those that are vulnerable.

Males in my local women's institute and in the ladies loos are my personal experience so far. I like the people I know but don't want them in female spaces.

Have you seen the prison statistics? Transwomen offend at the same rate men do. Women are right to fight for their spaces to exclude men (and therefore exclude transwomen).

I work closely with a man who says he's a woman. He also has autism and ADHD. He's difficult company, like nobody else I've ever worked with. I deliberately don't go into the office on the same days as him, primarily because I don't want to be in the toilet at the same time as him. I just don't want to have to deal with something like that if I don't have to. But I'm assuming he'll have to stop using the ladies', so that's one less thing to think about when I'm planning my week.

I wouldn’t be so sure. My kids have known him for three years. I was having this debate with them after the ruling and both were utterly shocked to find out that he was biologically a woman when I was talking about him yesterday.

In terms of a specific impact I've had to be very careful at work when pupils have transitioned, in order to avoid causing offence by using the 'wrong' pronouns.

This was particularly the case with one trans boy who switched to our school so that they could be 'stealth'.

In the end, the pupil told the boys that she was born as a girl. She detransitioned after leaving school.

I was scolded by pupils for 'deadnaming' one pupil. I was covering for an absent teacher and had used the name on the register. The trans pupil wasn't concerned about it and later detransitioned.

@AmIHumanOrAmIAYeti Sorry. I have a learning disability.

I had a trans woman manager for a while. She was an excellent manager and her lifestory, which I read online, inspirational. When I first met her, and before I knew she was trans, there was something niggling at the back of my mind that made sense once I knew she was trans - very tall, deep voice. Using feminine pronouns wasn't the challenge I had feared it might be and until this week, I hadn't wondered how I might have reacted if I had been in the ladies at the same time as her. (I wouldn't have reacted.)

However, what I did feel was that having the kind of conversation you sometimes have with girlfriends would have revealed that shared experience from birth is essential for that particular bond to feel secure. I didn't have that sense with her of us having a common life experience because we hadn't.

While I welcome this week's ruling as it provides clarity in some circumstances, I am alarmed and upset for the trans community. Even though I call myself a TERF, there is no reason for disrespecting a minority who have been thrown a curved ball in life. And there is a huge difference between believing you were born in the wrong body and taking all the steps that can be taken to transition, and aggressively supporting a nonsensical ideology that disregards biological imperatives.

As an 18/20 year old I was working in a lingerie store. I was manning the shop by myself over lunchtime and was asked to fit a bra. As usual I locked the front door as it was only myself and the customer in the shop. Only when I went to the changing rooms to conduct the fitting did I realise it was actually a transgender person. This person was much larger than me and I felt very vulnerable.

Whilst they didn’t do anything overtly threatening/sexual in the moment, it was never appropriate for them to put me in that position. (really shouldn’t have been in the shop alone, but I was young and naive). I struggle to see their motivation. At best they put their own gender affirmation needs over my need to feel safe, at worst they had other more sinister motivations.

I firmly believe anyone can be who they choose to be, provided that doesn’t impede on others safety.

Absolutely no impact. Although I like to wind my holier than thou, friend up by book the trans woman at the brow bar in boots. (s/he is absolutely lovely and very good their job .)

The women haven’t been ‘shouting about them’. They’ve been courageously fighting to win rights that shouldn’t have been taken in the first place.

Transwomen are not women, they are men. As someone with your history, why are you colluding with an ideology that would make it easier for men to access girls and women in spaces where they might be vulnerable? We can’t police who the ‘nice’ men are (although nice men wouldn’t push this agenda) so we need to exclude them all.

Please educate yourself because you sound very naive about what the actual implications are for girls and women, and as a victim of male violence yourself you should be advocating for greater protections for women, not to sell them down the river.

Thank you everyone who has commented.

I was in the post office and was cornered by a man wearing a dress, a wig and lipstick.
He then pulled up his dress to show me his penis that was covered by see-through white lace underwear. He then winked at me and said "I'm one of the girls".

This was really fucking traumatic as someone that was sexually abused.

Another trans identifying male threatened to put me on a list that was shared around "proactive" trans people and allies. Apparently they have lists where they work together to find the personal information of people who are outspokenly gender critical.

He then said I would be kept in a basement and beaten with a baseball bat.

I know one trans identifying female. She is neurodiverse and has always struggled with her identity. She was unfortunately sucked into the wrong online crowd and now believes she is a man. She has cut off her entire family because they said they would accept her for who she is and call her by her changed name, but they simply wouldn't say that she was a man.

I have had several very brief encounters with other trans people and have ended up removing myself from the conversations because they were clearly looking for anyone who showed the slightest hint of not worshipping them.

I'll be honest, trans identifying males terrify me. Every single one I have encountered has felt like they were on a knife edge of violence. Like incels that are not only accepted, but validated in their hatred of actual women.

It is funny (in a sad way) how these people actually stick so close to the traits of their actual biological sex. The men intimidate, threaten violence, violate consent and are aggressive..

The women cut off people who don't agree, but otherwise get on with their lives and keep their heads down.

Yes. I know a few trans people.no issues at all.

Discovering how utterly shite some cis women can be to other human beings has been a disturbing revelation.

No, I haven't, unless you count having a few really nice and supportive trans friends (I'm my 60s, married - to a man - not trans!). So I guess you could say they've had a positive effect on my life, though that had nothing to do with their gender presentation, just their personalities.

Children are gullible and often believe completely made up things. I can spot a transwoman without even seeing his face and can even more easily spot a transman. I think nearly all biological women have this ability.

For stating fact? Could someone identify as a different age or race?

my young child asked me why there was a (naked from the waist up) man with boobs in the female swimming pool changing room.

No for showing utter prejudice. The thing that's utterly destroying the UK isn't a tiny percentage of trans people - it's prejudice.

For not prostrating ourselves in an effort to #BeKind to the XY people.

It's probably been posted already but -

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/3348290-It-will-never-happen-resource-thread

The judgement made by the Supreme Court confirmed what should have been happening in regards to single sex services and spaces. Lobbying groups have deliberately misled organisations and individuals that self id is the law of the land. It's not.

What are we prejudiced against, exactly; we women who don’t want to share spaces we might feel vulnerable in with men?

Haven't been effected directly. But female prisons and sports and then the Dr who said they wouldn't get a female dr if requested made me feel all going too far. Worry that my teen dd who is tom boyish would be encouraged that she can be a boy, thankfully not an issue so far.

Support transwomen as far as calling them the name and pronouns they prefer, dressing how they like. Just not at the expense of women's safety or sport. I sympathise with them in not feeling happy within their own body.

I don't know any trans people follow some on tiktok and many seem really sensitive to women's concerns.