How have you been affected by the Tran's community?

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As there are so many posts on here that discuss Transgenderism, has anyone been directly affected by the Tran's community, good or bad?
I'm quite young and only know one Tran's gender person, as far as I'm aware.

Our answers cannot be used to quantify all the current and future risks to humanity if the current trans ideology train steams ahead as it has in recent years.

I was in hospital with a man next to me who was clearly a man. He identified as a woman. It didn't bother me significantly. It did however bother me. I could not discern who or how this person would be. We were vulnerable women, myself in particular with all sorts hanging out.

That individual alone wasn't a huge problem. Yet, enabling this shit and what that will then create, on top of what women have already suffered, is not ok!

There is the most hideously militant trans person online I've seen posting videos humiliating anyone who doesn't call him she. Even foreign serving staff who have no clue what they're supposed to say when a man in a dress says call me she. That's scary. Anyone supporting this mindset is scary.

I have no time for hate. This agenda is however terrifying in what it would perpetuate if it continues.

Personally I haven’t but I have been affected by the rhetoric.

I do support the woman who want single sex services. I want womans sports to be fair for women.

I don’t think men belong in the female prison estate. I’m unlikely to find myself in prison but surely we should all speak up to protect those who have no voice for fear of punishment? If we don’t it’s assumed it’s ok because “no one has complained”.

I’m in Scotland so perhaps been more coverage of the issues up here? I’ve really appreciated the women who won’t wheest and fws. and jkr. Not really for me but for defending the rights of all women and girls.

Don't speak for me as part of that 51%. I am not impacted at all (apart from despising the blatant prejudice that is rife). I'm happy for trans people to share my spaces, work, sports and life so do not speak on my behalf and claim I'm affected.

I'm a lesbian, and have met a lot of trans people. On a personal level, I have gotten along with most of them and it was absolutely fine.

The only one I've had an issue with was in a hobby group. I won't say the hobby as it's outing, but it's a nerdy hobby where there are lots of LGBT people. There was a trans person there, who I will call person X. He was a biological 40yo man, but identified as a woman (but very much still presented as a man). There was me, another guy, and two younger queer girls, about 18yo. The younger girls would arrange to meet up, and person X would invite themselves. That in itself felt weird, and the girls used to tell me they found it weird. Person X used to go alone to a particular club night which me and my wife also attended, and used to attach themselves to us. They then used to tell us they were a lesbian, and would talk about how hot they found us, and how they'd love to date us, as a fellow lesbian. They never actually did anything wrong, but idk, they just really gave me the ick and bad vibes. They were very 'I'm a lesbian just like you' and used to talk about girlhood a lot. I just found myself thinking, you've no idea what it means to live as a woman and experience misogyny.

Otherwise, I've been to LGBT women's groups/lesbian spaces, and I personally feel uncomfortable with trans women being there. As a lesbian, there is a lot of pressure on lesbians in particular to date and sleep with trans women. And I just don't want to 🤷 I think trans women and trans identifying lesbians deserve their own space, but I feel I am also entitled to my own safe space away from biological men.

I think it's complex and I have no issues with respecting identity/pronouns. I would advocate for trans people to have safe spaces. I don't mind gender neutral single cubicles in places like restaurants. BUT I also believe in single sex spaces for things like changing rooms etc. I also have every empathy for body dysmorphia, which must be horrible to live with, but I also don't believe I'm a bad person for thinking trans woman cannot possibly know what it is like to be a biological woman. Trans women experience prejudice, but very differently to natal women.

I also think it's wrong that thousands of women are voicing concerts about things like single sex spaces, but are being told they're wrong.

Previous volunteer experience - possibly the most unpleasant person I've ever met.

Current ad-hoc role - someone definitely getting kicks out of being in a women's place.

Other encounters all ok but very few.

I worked with a 'trans woman' but I don't honestly think they believed they were a woman, I think they were a troubled person with mental health problems that led them to seek attention. They also had an ADHD diagnosis which apparently makes you more likely to identify as trans. They called us woman 'cis woman' which I couldn't stand but ultimately I worked quite well with them. I certainly would not have liked to share changing rooms etc with them though.

I understand you were scared or surprised but it sounds like the transgender person was just using the bathroom so you actually didn’t need to be scared. It’s normal to be scared of things you don’t know but that doesn’t mean the answer is to campaign against them in fear. You could give a similar scenario with people from a certain ethnic background and the answer would be to address your own prejudices.

Yes, I have. There's a man who says he's a woman in my workplace and he has up to now been allowed to use female toilets. He is very large, threatening and male looking and most of us women at work don't feel safe around him.

I have an incredibly strong sense that a high proportion of trans people are Autistic.

I don't know what that tells me. I see whatever I might suggest could be seen as incredibly patronising and I don't live it, so how would I know.

I've been in the women's toilet when a massive bloke in a dress and wig (Sophie Cook, fraudster formerly of the Labour Party all women's shortlist position holder if anyone is interested) came in, took up 90% of the space, had to step over a buggy because he was too big to step around it and generally behaved like an entitled massive bloke. I didn't like that at all.

I've also lost friends due to disagreement over trans inclusion and women's rights, so whilst that wasn't caused by any specific trans people, the ones who campaign to trample women's rights affected me quite sadly.

Oh and I've been shouted at and harassed whilst attending several women's rights meetings, by lots of people at a time, many of whom appeared to have a trans identity.

however I'm privileged not to need a refuge or to be likely to be housed in prison, or strip searched by a police officer, or in need of women only therapeutic support, so I'm not the one who is most likely to be negatively impacted by a dangerous and boundary crossing trans person. That doesn't mean I don't think it's important to protect single sex provisions.

Work directing our resident trans woman to use the disabled loo was a particular high point. Used to be locked in there for an hour at a time….We have three wheelchair users on our floor. Ironically, used to be considered a very disability friendly place to work.

I went almost fully remote.

Fair enough
but the law now definitively says I don’t have to accept
nor do the women and girls who didn’t give their consent to this
or the women in prisons who were housed with men
or women in a rape crisis centre who were told to accept male counsellors and men in their support groups and to reframe their trauma
or women in Hempstead heath who were told they had to accept trans women into their single sex swimming ponds
or the woman raped by a trans women on a hospital ward and then gas lit
or the hundreds of women in sports who have their medals and Victories stolen

Yes @Copiousamountsofpulses I agree.In the case I mentioned previously I always believed that the man involved was actually very mentally unwell.

Can you explain what this “step backwards” actually means in practice, given that no rights have been removed from trans people?
Thank you

The "trans community" led my DS to believe his poor mental health would be cured by taking hormones which would stop his body working properly. It was later diagnosed as anxiety and depression by a psychotherapist with extensive experience of working with people with gender dysphoria.

I have friends who's daughters have had their breasts removed for similar reasons. To say I'm angry would be an understatement.

Sorry I understand you’re probably trying to ‘be kind’ but would you want to share a prison cell with a male rapist identifying as a woman?
Would you want your dementia suffering mother or disabled daughter having to accept intimate care from a biological male and having to address him with female pronouns?
Would you be happy with your daughters never qualifying for sports teams because males dominate them?
can you genuinely say none of those scenarios would bother you in the slightest?

This sounds like the person I worked with, I wonder if they started working with you in the later part of last year and have the initial A....

What an odd thing to say. I wasn’t a victim of Isla Bryson - can I not say that I think he shouldn’t be in a female prison? Am I not allowed to have opinions on the safety of women in that prison, and others? Can I only think that if I’ve been in prison? Or is even that not good enough, must I have been in that specific prison with that specific rapist to make my opinion not bigoted?

Yes.

if transgender women are subject to violence their lives are at risk to the extent they say they are, why are we not seeing trangender mental health help, sexual assault centres etc.

women campaigned and fundraisers for years to set up these facilities. we even have “Andy’s man club” and the like that men have set up for themselves.

gay people have had their own gay sports competitions and clubs for years.

There is absolutely nothing stopping transgender people setting up sports clubs, raising money for transgender mental health, victim support etc.

I have lots of trans friends.... and I don't believe any of them can actually change sex.

Are 'people of a certain ethnic background' more likely to attack me than white people? Well that's a silly question actually, since by 'people' presumably you meant women, since we are talking about women's toilets? And the answer is no, women's of certain ethnic backgrounds aren't more likely to attack me than white wonen. No women are very likely to attack me at all. Men however - men of all and any ethnic background are far more likely to attack me than a woman is, which is why I don't want one next to me in the public loos. I get that you think men who identify as women aren't actually men, but I don't agree, and nor does the Supreme Court. At the moment you still think it's ok for men who identify as women to use women's loos, but that will be comprehensively rolled back over the next decade. It only took 20 years for trans ideology to mushroom and start to die back - within another decade it will be viewed as an embarrassing anachronism.

My daughter lives in Melbourne and attended a "let women speak"meeting,the reception from the Trans activists was horrific.The violence,threats,and general thuggish behaviour was appalling.The vitriol only ever comes from Trans.I might add that Australia is worse than the UK when it comes to womens sex based rights.

I've come across a man who appeared to think he 'passed' as a woman in Centre Parcs spa changing rooms a couple of years ago. If I ever go back I'm going to check they got the memo from the Supreme Court. (So pleased that ruling makes it perfectly clear he had no right to be there)

You’re seriously suggesting encountering a man in a women’s bathroom is equivalent to encountering a woman from an ethnic minority?
Fucking seriously??

I actually meant to write Autistic rather than ADHD! I wonder if it's a way of some people affected trying to find a way to fit in?