How have you been affected by the Tran's community?

[BabuFrick]

As there are so many posts on here that discuss Transgenderism, has anyone been directly affected by the Tran's community, good or bad?
I'm quite young and only know one Tran's gender person, as far as I'm aware.

Not affected by the trans community, but by trans activists.

Due to their determination to make everywhere “inclusive” I’ve had to use mixed sexed toilets ie what clearly used to be single sex toilets that just had the signs changed on the door. Going to the loo in gappy cubicles and coming out to find 50-something year old men doing up their flies as they wander to the sink they don’t use was grim.

The force-teaming way de facto self-ID has been brought in is appalling. In order to accommodate “the tiny, vulnerable” number of trans people, many places have just made their SSS mixed sexed. Cheapest option rather than provide 3rd spaces.

All the times I’ve used these mixed sex toilets there have been no trans people present so the majority of people are being made to share toilets etc with the opposite sex in order to make the vanishingly small number of trans people that might use the loo more comfortable. Men may not have a problem sharing loos with women, but I sure as hell mind sharing toilets with men. Doesn’t need an assault or violence, we have the right to not be made uncomfortable hence we are vulnerable.

Not everyone can say the same. The victims of Barbie Kardashian in Ireland were assaulted by a transwoman with a GRC. Islam Bryson's victims were assaulted by a transwoman. Etc etc.

Do you understand why some women wouldn't want to compete in sports against people who were born male and have significant physical advantage (regardless of testosterone levels)?

There's barely a day where transphobic posts don't get posted on Mumsnet. If you fail to see the prejudice in the vast majority of those posts then there's no words that will help you to understand it.

Yes.

A friend had some transwomen friends and they came with us on an evening out. They used the women’s loos and I was deeply uncomfortable with sharing that space with men. I ended up making sure I went to the loo at different times, something I wouldn’t normally have to do.

I have also attended Let Women Speak events where TRAs - many of whom were trans - were screaming abuse and waving pictures of fucking guns.

I don’t know how so many people have so many trans friends… are they a tiny part of the population or not a tiny part of the population. I rarely come across any trans people ( knowingly) and I work for a big public sector organisation in London. I find the whole debate about it to be pretty toxic and the amount of Tik Tok videos and pompous statements about TERFS or whatever to be tedious. I also didn’t like that picture of JK Rowling which I thought was pretty inflammatory. Im
pretty much with Buck Angel on this current ruling.

I'm in a profession where I could lose my job if anyone knows that I believe (know, rather, as these are facts) that traits associated with genders are social constructs that change over time, that there is no such thing as an essence of man or essence of woman, that male and female are distinctions based on biological, reproductive potential and that women have fought for centuries against oppressions based on denying these facts.

The anxiety and fear caused by knowing my children and I could be homeless if anyone finds out that I do not believe gender stereotypes are essential features of identity do have a negative effect on my life, yes.

It's also psychologically and emotionally distressing and damaging having my identity as a woman denied and dismissed. You would hope trans people would empathise with and connect with this, as I and all the gender critical people I know do with trans people who feel similarly denied and dismissed by biological reality.

My partner is in a profession where colleagues have been sacked for saying that gender stereotypes do not make a man a man nor a woman a woman and that women still need safe spaces in some areas, such as prisons. This leaves my partner nervous as the atmosphere is very much one of mistrust and fear, which deeply affects relationships and ability to feel secure and ok in the profession.

And people have been assaulted by women before too so giving individual cases is unhelpful and inflammatory.

Oh yes. My extremely vulnerable, very autistic, depressed son (who was bullied constantly at school and college despite my challenging his school) was groomed online by older trans identified men who told him that the only reason he was unhappy and felt he didn’t fit in was because he was ‘really’ a woman. They told him (a skinny, awkward young man they’d never seen) that he was ‘beautiful’ and amazing. They told him he must spend his benefits on secretly acquiring injectable hormones to develop breasts and told him where and how to buy them online from dodgy online shops. They also got him to transfer money to pay for their surgical transition.. I found out when I intercepted a delivery of drugs from somewhere random and he told me what was going on. It was devastating. His mental health collapsed and has never recovered.

Same.

I use the live and let live approach.

Thank god some people still do. Thank you.

Oh come on! An hour at a time she said.

I’ve been silenced at work (NHS) and been accused of bigotry for stating biological facts. I was taken to task because I pointed out that a young teenager might want a female dr for an intimate gynae examination. Apparently I couldn’t explain that was an option because it discriminated against certain staff - the teenager would have to know to ask for a female dr, it wouldn’t be offered. Quite why a male person would feel that way by not being allowed to intimately examine a 13 year old is anyone’s guess.

I have very much felt that my rights as a woman were secondary to men and that I no longer had a voice. Living under Sturgeon did that to many of us.

Yes, negatively in a homeless shelter.

They were aggressive and dominating in a women's only work space and the staff found it easier to kick us both out, after I'd asked them nicely to keep their volume down as it was a work space, and they were loudly talking about all their ex boyfriends' apparent mummy issues.They threw a hissy fit and accused me of harassment.

I said to the staff who forced me to leave my work behind- 'they're not even a woman', and they were trying to hush me saying 'you can't say that'. But I did.

Also, whilst in the local social centre waiting to be given a spot in this homeless shelter, a different man was making loads of disturbing noises for ages and claiming to be pregnant.

A unisex toilet in a library bothered me as there was a smelly urinal next to the toilet and the whole place smelt so strongly of men's urine and I felt it was unfair to not have a women's only space.

This was all in The USA though. The whole thing was mental.

I’m on an nhs waiting list for surgery. I am waiting for a gynaecology specialist as I have a very rare condition. While waiting for my big surgery, I had 7 small surgeries last year as emergency appointments. I have been in the waiting room with men in dresses in the GYNECOLOGY department who are IN FRONT of me and other women to be examined. Doctors have informed me countless times that they are a huge part of the length of the waiting list

They already have a space. Trans people should use the single sex space that aligns with their biological sex, not their gender.

If transwomen don't want to use the gents, and transmen don't want to use the ladies then they can fight for something else.

Nearly all lesbian spaces have been invaded by transwomen and have become "queer" spaces.

If you're a woman who only wants to have relationships with women you are ostracised for being transphobic because you don't want to date penisy women. So much for being inclusive...

People can be whatever they want but I’m not sharing a female only space with a bloke in a dress.

Me personally -

• first husband was a desister but presumably would have been considered trans when he started hormones. It was hard being married to him and his attitude to women was one part of that.
• specialist work with transwomen which absolutely did my head in. The idea that they were women and, simultaneously, that it was my job to help them be more feminine because that's what being a woman is about made me angrier and more distressed than I have ever been. Had to change my work pattern.
• several friends and relatives who have transitioned in different forms. Not my business but none of them have changed sex, they all still need the protection of their sex based rights, and I'm happy that the law confirms that.

Why is an already stretched to breaking point NHS indulging this insanity??

So sorry to hear that @Namechange7598- will the new legal clarity help him process it all, do you think?

I actually also feel for the majority of trans people who have been given a bad name by the extremists.

I feel less charitable to the pharmacists, doctors, politicians who have led young people up the garden path to satisfy their own agendas. I hope the cultural change now is rapid. Self-prescribing should never be possible. Nor underage medication.

This.

My 🤔 is which loo are people actually supposed to use?
My friends who are trans will no longer pass for their 'original biological' sex. So yes a bearded bloke is surely better off in the boys loo than using the ladies....and it can't be ok to send a person who presents as a woman into the mens - the men would think they are a girl in the wrong loo surely.
The disabled loo is already doubled up for the baby change, all I keep thinking is my IBD friends will end up shitting themselves while queuing for the now free for all disabled cubicle.

But not affected just concerned

Would you say the same to the Darlington nurses? Or the nurse in Scotland suspended because she refused to change in the same room as Dr Beth, an intact male?
What about the patient that was raped by a teams women on a ward where apparently there were no males?
Or to the youth football team in Yorkshire who got banned from their league because they refused to have a trans girl (a boy) on their team?

I have not personally experienced any of the issues above, they happened to other women. But they did happen, to my fellow women, because “be kind” TWAW.

I absolutely applaud the court’s ruling. If a man chooses to wear dresses and makeup and do whatever they think makes them a trans woman then that is fine. They can live how they chose. But they do not have the right to spaces that are there for biological women.

I’m 50. I know 2 transgender MTF people and 1 non binary person.

All 3 of them are very nice people. I have no issues with them at all! I am not comfortable using their chosen pronouns & don’t want to make them uncomfortable by using their biologically correct pronouns so I only refer to them by their names.

I am very sympathetic to the fact that they have been sold a lie and that many institutions have erroneously implemented policies that have not been correct in law which has probably made them very confused. But there are only 2 sexes and humans cannot change sex. If this biological reality had been clarified in law 20 years ago we would not have all the issues that we are currently seeing.

can't work out if you're being disingenuous or you yourself are a transwoman.