How have you been affected by the Tran's community?

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As there are so many posts on here that discuss Transgenderism, has anyone been directly affected by the Tran's community, good or bad?
I'm quite young and only know one Tran's gender person, as far as I'm aware.

Because "cis" means that "I identify as" and I do not identify as my sex. I am my sex.

And I shouldn't be forced or coerced in to calling myself something that I am not.

No it doesn’t.

So you not only get to define yourself, you get to define everybody else as well.

In case you missed it

You are a hypocrite.

Except that it does.

I am not defining anyone. It’s a word. It has a clear meaning. You can dislike it and choose not to use it yourself, but it is not a slur.

All this linguistic nit picking about ‘cis’. A term that is unfamiliar to the vast majority of people in this country. And will remain so

Yes the meaning of ‘cisgender’ is that women are a subset of their own sex and that they identify with ‘female gender’ - the sexist stereotypes that have been used to hold women back through history. I’m a woman because I am an adult human female, not a fucking ‘cis’ woman

Yeah, so now we're supposed to have people who are indistinguishable from men in the women's toilets.

No, that does make me feel safe.

I again refer to the fact that women cancer survivors are being harassed in women's toilets by people who insist they can always tell who is trans and who isn't. I've even linked a newspaper article about a woman who has personally experienced harassment from other women. You cannot always tell who is and who isn't.

I don’t hear the term ‘cis- man’ being used for men, so why is ‘man’ okay for males but you have to use ‘cis - woman’ for females?

Someone upthread said that language evolves. Maybe this is the end of the usage of the word ‘cis’, as we now gave a perfectly acceptable term. Ie. Woman.

A meaning which isn’t applicable to anyone that doesn’t have a ‘gender identity’ (which no one can define without relying on regressive sexist stereotypes it seems). So meaningless to the majority and therefore not needed.

Of course people use the term cis man.

I've heard that used a lot.

The absolute audacity of the trans activists insisting on calling women this ridiculous “cis” nonsense. Just no. Sod off. It’s not 2018 anymore and we will not play along. Those days are gone. Dear me.

If “trans women” come into women’s toilets we also have people who are indistinguishable from men in them, because they are.

It has zero meaning to describe a person outside your ideology.

Just like “she” and “he” are just words with a clear meaning.

you can dislike then and choose not to use them yourself.

but I can use them with their intended meaning, and no should be getting upset and asking me not to.

And she doesn’t identify as “cis”.

As I have said, I’m fine with genderists using their fringe ideological jargon to describe me, like I’m fine with Christians doing so, or Muslims. In return, I expect to be able to refer to men as men, however they identify. Because it’s not my ideology, and I’m not going to use its terms.

Of course you are defining someone by calling them "cis".

You are also forcing your ideology on that person by claiming that they have a gender identity when they have told you that they haven't.

I (and others) do not believe in your ideology, I (and others) refuse to be defined by your poorly redefined word that makes women and men and subset of their own sex.

If you wish to be referred by you chosen gender the very lease that you can is show the same respect to those that have different beliefs to you.

Real women don’t require further definition.

I am this 🤏 close to dropping “trans woman” for (the more accurate) “ersatz woman” if I hear “cis” again.

Exactly.

I actually use preferred pronouns for those that request it, even though I don’t subscribe to the ideology, which I know makes me a minority on MN.

I am, however, completely sick to death of being polite and respectful and observing the self description of people who won’t respect my own self description.

I am not cis.

I’m not a cis woman in the same way I’m not a Catholic atheist.

I presume people who insist on using cis wouldn’t insist on assigning a religious belief to people without a faith.

I had to deal with the fallout of a trans-identified male attacking a young woman many years ago. This was in my workplace and I was from outside the area so wasn’t aware of what had gone on. That was tricky.

i worked with a trans-identified female who had some severe issues and who would often have porn playing when I visited. That was quite uncomfortable.

i have a friend who was sexually assaulted by a trans-identified male.

I was subject to indecent exposure by a trans-identified male.

In our extended family there is a trans-identified male which has resulted in an acrimonious family split and severe mental health issues for their parent.

I use ‘men’

How is insisting someone be refered to as a “cis woman” against their wishes, any different to “misgengering” a trans person and refusing to use their preferred pronouns?
The prefix “cis” only exists because of gender / trans ideology. If a woman does not believe in or subscribe to this, then she is not “cis”. She is simply a woman.

I am not a cis woman, I am a woman. I will show respect to any transgender people I encounter by using their preferred pronouns. I would expect the same respect in return by them not using “cis”