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How have you been affected by the Tran's community?

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BabuFrick · 18/04/2025 16:15

As there are so many posts on here that discuss Transgenderism, has anyone been directly affected by the Tran's community, good or bad?
I'm quite young and only know one Tran's gender person, as far as I'm aware.

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Gundogday · 19/04/2025 15:36

Darker · 19/04/2025 15:27

In most situations in life we don’t need to state our sex or gender. The word cis will generally only be used where is serves a purpose.

Are women/men who object to the word ‘cis’ transphobic?

In the past, I’ve asked people whether they know the meaning of cis, or what a ciswoman is (although never know whether to pronounce Sis or kiss). I’d say that 80% of those surveyed didn’t , so it’s not in modern parlance.

Annascaul · 19/04/2025 15:45

Darker · 19/04/2025 15:01

Why is ‘cis’ a slur, any more than ‘straight’ would be? It is just a word to make it clear that you are not trans.

This explains:

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/history-general-science/word-cisgender-has-scientific-roots#:~:text=%2DThe%20prefix%20%E2%80%9Ccis%2D%E2%80%9D,of%E2%80%9D%20or%20%E2%80%9Cbeyond.%E2%80%9D

Why would anyone feel the need to point out that they’re not trans??

Gundogday · 19/04/2025 15:47

We now have a word for that. It’s Woman.

( Actually, we’ve always had that word, contrary to what some people may think).

HaddyAbrams · 19/04/2025 15:48

Annascaul · 19/04/2025 15:45

Why would anyone feel the need to point out that they’re not trans??

Presumably for the same reason I need to state that I'm not blue eyed, not a stamp collector and not a Buddhist. Wink

Darker · 19/04/2025 16:05

Gundogday · 19/04/2025 15:36

In the past, I’ve asked people whether they know the meaning of cis, or what a ciswoman is (although never know whether to pronounce Sis or kiss). I’d say that 80% of those surveyed didn’t , so it’s not in modern parlance.

Language evolves. There was a time when the term heterosexual wasn’t widely recognised.

HangTheDJHangTheDJHangTheDJ · 19/04/2025 16:16

Annascaul · 19/04/2025 15:45

Why would anyone feel the need to point out that they’re not trans??

https://www.itv.com/news/central/2022-12-26/cancer-survivor-challenged-at-public-toilets-after-being-mistaken-for-a-man

The same thing happened to my friend after a double mastectomy. But you can always tell with 100 percent accuracy who is trans, right? You don't accidentally end up harassing a cancer survivor, right?

Namechange7598 · 19/04/2025 16:17

Cis is offensive for all the reasons given - it makes women a subset of their own sex and no more female than men - but also because ‘cis’ is defined as identifying with the gender you were assigned at birth. Not only is that a nonsense. Nobody is ‘assigned a gender’ but gender for women is a set of regressive, restrictive stereotypes that most women fight against. Wanting to be a free person rather than a doormat doesn’t turn a woman into a trans man.

Je5585 · 19/04/2025 16:18

My ginger son at 13 was severely bullied by a trans person who has made his life a complete misery all because of his hair. He was isolated from his peers because of this one person. I may be wrong here but in America the school shootings a fair few of them were trans.

Fordian · 19/04/2025 16:20

Yes, it has forced my to deny the evidence of my own eyes; and to debase my professionalism and compromise my safety when I am required to ask, of a Saturday night, a drunk, 6’ hairy trucker called Bert if he might be pregnant, and ‘please sign here to that effect’ before I can scan him, also countersigning my obedience; in the knowledge that the 30-somethings young handmaidens of band 7s, often inexplicably with their own young daughters - will be checking up on my compliance on Monday morning; AND my trade union has explicitly stated that will not support any member who questions the ideology.

That shit can all now get in a bin.

Annascaul · 19/04/2025 16:24

Fordian · 19/04/2025 16:20

Yes, it has forced my to deny the evidence of my own eyes; and to debase my professionalism and compromise my safety when I am required to ask, of a Saturday night, a drunk, 6’ hairy trucker called Bert if he might be pregnant, and ‘please sign here to that effect’ before I can scan him, also countersigning my obedience; in the knowledge that the 30-somethings young handmaidens of band 7s, often inexplicably with their own young daughters - will be checking up on my compliance on Monday morning; AND my trade union has explicitly stated that will not support any member who questions the ideology.

That shit can all now get in a bin.

Thank Christ 🙏

Darker · 19/04/2025 16:28

Je5585 · 19/04/2025 16:18

My ginger son at 13 was severely bullied by a trans person who has made his life a complete misery all because of his hair. He was isolated from his peers because of this one person. I may be wrong here but in America the school shootings a fair few of them were trans.

A fact check for you on trans shooters (below).

Sorry your child was bullied. However there are many bullies who are not trans.

Many of the bullies I’ve encountered are women. I don’t allow that to colour my view of women or how women should be treated in law.

www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/majority-of-us-mass-shooters-are-cis-men-not-transgender-or-non-binary-people-idUSL1N363273/

Je5585 · 19/04/2025 16:32

Oh I don't. It must be a struggle for some I've never been in this position so I wouldn't understand but in the same breath for my son to be bullied by someone that is also different really wasn't nice.

Lounderflounder · 19/04/2025 16:38

Yachtinggwoman · 19/04/2025 14:06

My son is a transwoman but he looks exactly like a man. That’s because he is a man.

I'd be very surprised if your child wants anything to do with you in the future.

Shadowsunray · 19/04/2025 16:45

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FrippEnos · 19/04/2025 16:48

Darker · 19/04/2025 15:01

Why is ‘cis’ a slur, any more than ‘straight’ would be? It is just a word to make it clear that you are not trans.

This explains:

https://www.mcgill.ca/oss/article/history-general-science/word-cisgender-has-scientific-roots#:~:text=%2DThe%20prefix%20%E2%80%9Ccis%2D%E2%80%9D,of%E2%80%9D%20or%20%E2%80%9Cbeyond.%E2%80%9D

Why would you feel the need to mis-gender someone so badly?

It seems so hypocritical to me that a group that complains so much about being mis-gendered and dead named would take so much pleasure in in telling someone what they must be called.

and no its not transphobic.

Darker · 19/04/2025 16:50

FrippEnos · 19/04/2025 16:48

Why would you feel the need to mis-gender someone so badly?

It seems so hypocritical to me that a group that complains so much about being mis-gendered and dead named would take so much pleasure in in telling someone what they must be called.

and no its not transphobic.

How is using the word ‘cis’ misgendering? Please explain.

HangTheDJHangTheDJHangTheDJ · 19/04/2025 16:53

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Oh another personal attack? What a surprise...

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 19/04/2025 16:55

Darker · 19/04/2025 16:50

How is using the word ‘cis’ misgendering? Please explain.

Because I am not cis and I don’t identify as cis.

see the parallel?

Darker · 19/04/2025 17:01

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 19/04/2025 16:55

Because I am not cis and I don’t identify as cis.

see the parallel?

That doesn’t make sense. It’s a word. If you were born with female reproductive organs and regard yourself as a woman, the term cis applies to you. You do not need to opt-in.

That you object to a term even exists calls into question your credibility in the argument.

Annascaul · 19/04/2025 17:02

Darker · 19/04/2025 17:01

That doesn’t make sense. It’s a word. If you were born with female reproductive organs and regard yourself as a woman, the term cis applies to you. You do not need to opt-in.

That you object to a term even exists calls into question your credibility in the argument.

No, dear. The word woman is enough. Always has been, always will be.

Darker · 19/04/2025 17:04

Annascaul · 19/04/2025 17:02

No, dear. The word woman is enough. Always has been, always will be.

I don’t identify as ‘dear’.

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 19/04/2025 17:06

Darker · 19/04/2025 17:01

That doesn’t make sense. It’s a word. If you were born with female reproductive organs and regard yourself as a woman, the term cis applies to you. You do not need to opt-in.

That you object to a term even exists calls into question your credibility in the argument.

And if you’re a male born with male reproductive organs, you’re male.

however you identify.

If someone can demand which pronouns I use, I can demand you don’t refer to me as cis.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 19/04/2025 17:15

Lounderflounder · 19/04/2025 16:38

I'd be very surprised if your child wants anything to do with you in the future.

So the parents of their child suffering from anorexia should affirm them as fat?

When has it been kind to lie to someone, especially your child? You can treat someone with humanity and respect yet not go along with what essentially is a lie. You can feel what you want, you can’t compel others to nor can you change sex.

It’s the Emperor’s New Clothes 2025.

RedHelenB · 19/04/2025 17:19

HangTheDJHangTheDJHangTheDJ · 19/04/2025 01:43

I'm 'on about' women who are telling trans men to use the women's toilets. I'm 'on about' how that makes me uncomfortable because I'm not used to seeing men with beards come into the women's toilets. I'm 'on about' how that makes me worried that any old hulking great man can now come in whenever they fancy it because apparently now we're inviting people who look like men into the toilets.

I don't mind trans women but I do mind trans men because that then opens the door for any man to come in.

I'm sure many women are thrilled about having trans men in the women's toilets but I'm not.

But they can be challenged whereas before they couldn't. So as a woman you're in a much better space. Women aren't telling trans men what to do, but as they are biologically female they have the right to use the women's facilities.

Whatsgoingonherethenagain · 19/04/2025 17:21

Yep I think we should abandon counselling and psychological help and instead offer weight affirming care.

i am a thin person born in a fat persons body.

i should be offered WLD, personal training and other help until my body matches the weight my brain thinks i should be.

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