So how do I live in the female gender?

[Definitelynamechanged123]

There are 8834 people in the UK who have a Gender Recognition Certificate.
I am one of them.

To get it, I had to show evidence of transition, surgery etc. Lots of hoops

I also had to swear a Statutory Declaration. I had to go to a Magistrates Court and swear a legal declaration in front of a magistrate. It was all very formal.

I had to swear this:

" have lived as a (insert ‘male’ or ‘female’ as appropriate)
throughout the period of years before the date of this statutory
declaration and I intend to live in that gender until death."

This declaration is legally binding. Apparently if I don't follow this, I can be done for perjury.

So...how do I live as a female and live in that gender until death - I have sworn to do this in front of a magistrate.

I was very surprised that so few trans people have Gender Recognition Certificates.

How do you know what being a women and living like a women is or means op?

people
sometimes have this idea that we float through life but honestly half the time we are clinging on my our badly bitten fingernails preying for a fucking break from the mental physical and emotional
load that comes with being a women.

Everyone is entitled to live how they want however not to the detriment of what being a women really is.

I do find it grinds my gears abit but I also understand when people feel the need to transition it’s because they feel wrong some how.

well I for one definitely feel like I want to jump the fence of hormones babies period menopause menopause the family burden
tge organiser the smiler and happy to helper etc

I've reported this disgusting, transphobic thread. Shame on all you posters.

Yes, and that aspect of it is now irrelevant. They fixed (unsuccessfuly) the wrong problem. They should have worked on same sex marriage and combatting homophobia and discrimination against gender nonconformance.

The only way you can live as a female is to be a biological female so if I were you I wouldn't bother trying as you can never achieve living as a female if you were born male.

What do you think it means @Definitelynamechanged123 ?

I'd like to know what this certificate stipulates you have to do to continue to be living as a woman? What are these rules 🤔 who's decided what a woman should/shouldn't be? A male probably 🙄

I neither like or dislike trans people. But they arent women. They are men, trying to live as a woman, which they will never be able to do.

They will never understand what its like to be a real woman. How we felt physically growing, boobs, going through puberty, periods, the pain and if you were lucky enough to have a child all that comes with it, menopause etc.

Also mentally, the way we are treated positively and negatively, not just by men, but woman and children. Trans will never experience that and i feel sorry for them, because to be a biological woman is amazing.

Do you want you in life, but dont think you'll ever be a woman, because you will never be.

I could never be a man, because i wasnt born a man and lived the life of a man.

Don't! I still keep that one for my dc!!!!! Prominently displayed (dc is at uni). It was such an achievement, I still remember it.

Were the 77 responses yesterday to your post about toilets not enough for you, @Definitelynamechanged123 ?

If you’re not getting the answers you crave here maybe try Reddit?

I would start by showing empathy for the women that have suffered, and continue to suffer from ingrained sexism and misogyny, and try to appreciate the reasons why they require rights and safety and single spaces.
You are half way there if you can at least show some respect and understanding. In your place I would be agreeing to a third space that was devoted to my needs and take that as a win. I would work on winning back the hearts and minds of women - and not call them insulting names or get involved in activism rooted in hate.

You've reported a thread started by a trans woman, who has not indicated that they have a problem with it, and is willingly having a dialogue with posters?

I think you need to take a look at who you're calling transphobic.

Im glad it helps you feel better about yourself. I don’t know what the answer is. It’s not that we hate trans women, it’s just that we, not men, seem to have been marginalised to allow trans women not be marginalised. We get screwed over time and again.

Stop taking out all the negativity women have experienced on one person.
You posters are directing your anger at the wrong person. Stop.

I feel very sorry that you have been caught in this.

I feel as if you are someone who women previously often turned a blind eye to in single sex spaces because of medical diagnosis etc etc. Probably going about your day to day life trying not to draw attention to yourself.

But you have been caught in the cross fire with Self Id, autogenophiles etc all jumping in too and being aggressive about asserting their 'rights' to be included too.

I don't know how the circle can be squared.

You couldn’t be ‘done for perjury’ because the law does not define what ‘living as a woman/man’ means so you could grow a beard, pop down to your local piercing studio for a Prince Albert and follow it up with a prostate exam and still claim to be living as a woman.

From what I’ve seen you will have lots of time for posed pics on FB - various flicky hair styles and tumbling locks, nails v elaborate, high breasts, complain about difficulties finding fashion and make up.
What you won’t be doing is struggling from the supermarket, toddler in tow, load up the car with the food requirements for 7 days and any other bits and pieces the family requires. Get home to start the evening meal before putting a quick wash on and sorting the DCs stuff for school the next day. Making sure homework is done and everything ready for a quick start in the morning before work. Etc

I am very sorry that you had this, because it's a serious challenge to live with. Did you get counselling or any psychiatric care?

This is why I have such issues with gender stereotypes.

No one identities 100% with either the male or female gender stereotype.

Someone may identify more with stereotypical female or male traits but it doesn’t mean they have gender identity issues.

I am a biological female but if there was a tick box questionnaire I would absolutely identify emotionally more with males.
Physically I am curvy with long hair and nails and wear make up etc but I enjoy what stereotypical males enjoy and seem to connect and understand males better (although I am autistic).

But I don’t have gender identity issues just because I don’t fit into a stereotypical box.

I think if there was no such thing as gender stereotypes, there would also be no such thing as being transgender or having identity issues.

I actually think the whole non-binary movement which is increasing is actually turning the whole trans movement on its head because it’s removing the gender stereotypes.
I used to hate the non-binary thing and the they/them but actually if it removes the pressure of young people having to fit into a box then it does have some positives (although we need to go back to using his/her).

With all the hormonal crap that goes with being a woman and living in a patriarchal society I amazed anyone would choose to become a woman. I'm assuming no bloke ever thought wouldn't it be great to have periods and go through the menopause

People are answering a question on a thread started by a trans person. Wind your neck in.

Op, you are a biological man.

Sure, you can pretend to be living like a cat, a goat or a woman, but that’s not the reality.

Why not just accept it and enjoy your life?

It's not this person's fault you've experienced difficulties as a woman, so stop taking it out on them fgs. That's just life, if someone wants to transition that's up to them.

Exactly.

As I said, it would be an "interesting" perjury case because someone would have to define what living as a woman / living in the female gender means.

Sorry they asked! They have come on here - if they are not happy with the response they can jog on.

You can live as whoever you wish to be. But you cannot say you’re biologically female and do the same things we can do. You are and always will be biologically male. No surgery will change it. I hope you can find out ways in the future to make you happy.