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So how do I live in the female gender?

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Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 14:28

There are 8834 people in the UK who have a Gender Recognition Certificate.
I am one of them.

To get it, I had to show evidence of transition, surgery etc. Lots of hoops

I also had to swear a Statutory Declaration. I had to go to a Magistrates Court and swear a legal declaration in front of a magistrate. It was all very formal.

I had to swear this:

" have lived as a (insert ‘male’ or ‘female’ as appropriate)
throughout the period of years before the date of this statutory
declaration and I intend to live in that gender until death."

This declaration is legally binding. Apparently if I don't follow this, I can be done for perjury.

So...how do I live as a female and live in that gender until death - I have sworn to do this in front of a magistrate.

I was very surprised that so few trans people have Gender Recognition Certificates.

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fiorenza · 18/04/2025 15:02

Prepare to be discarded as worthless/passed over/ignored and ridiculed once deemed unfuckable. The countdown is on...

In the meantime, get to work scrubbing, cleaning, etc.

SidewaysOtter · 18/04/2025 15:03

I’m sorry you’ve been sold a lie, @Definitelynamechanged123 but you can’t transition between sexes. You can’t be a woman. Women are born, not made via surgery, certificates, hormones and adherence to gender stereotypes.

You are a man and will remain so, no matter how many pieces of paper you obtain.

Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 15:03

TBH, I am just going to keep on living my life how I want.

Who knows if that's living as male or a female.

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fiorenza · 18/04/2025 15:04

Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 15:03

TBH, I am just going to keep on living my life how I want.

Who knows if that's living as male or a female.

Why did you go through surgery if you're so wishywashy about it, then?

CalicoPusscat · 18/04/2025 15:05

The main issue here is that you're born male or female. Nothing else will change that fact although I do have sympathy for self identification

BottleBlondeMachiavelli · 18/04/2025 15:05

Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 15:03

TBH, I am just going to keep on living my life how I want.

Who knows if that's living as male or a female.

Just “live as” yourself.

Hwi · 18/04/2025 15:05

I am conservative and very old-fashioned. I only believe there are two sexes, male and female and there are no separate genders - sex and gender are the same. However, even I know that people who think they are the opposite sex have been massively betrayed by the government, not by the Supreme Court ruling, which was the only right outcome, but by the government which allowed those lies to perpetuate, by allowing the recognition, by spewing all that nonsense of cis-women, cervix-havers, chest-feeders, etc. The government needs to address it - own its shit and make a statement on 'We are sorry we lied to you, we are sorry we encouraged the false belief, we are to blame'. The government needs to be held accountable. We need to be mindful of these people, offer them support, not gloat about the Supreme Court ruling, and treat them as we treat mentally ill people - we do not laugh at the mentally ill people, and this is the only right way.

BeeCucumber · 18/04/2025 15:05

Just be who you want to be. I think it’s probably unlikely that the Gender Police will be around to arrest you if you break the rules - whatever they are.

SidewaysOtter · 18/04/2025 15:05

Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 15:03

TBH, I am just going to keep on living my life how I want.

Who knows if that's living as male or a female.

As long as you stay out of women-only spaces - loos, changing rooms, sports etc - crack on.

HaddyAbrams · 18/04/2025 15:05

As a female (not female gender, I don't think I have a gender) I have
Been raped, got pregnant as a result age had to have an abortion. Family didn't believe I was raped, apparently I was sleeping around.
Had such painful, heavy periods I'd pass out. Got told for years that I was either exaggerating, or that it was normal.

You can also expect to be told to "smile love" for no reason other than you should. You'll be told you're wrong about all sorts, correct use of language (by people who don't know), if you complain/ mention how much you're doing vs a man you'll be told "women wanted equality" Confused
Possibly paid less, not promoted over men. Probably have to work harder for longer to be seen as a valuable addition to a team.

Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 15:06

fiorenza · 18/04/2025 15:04

Why did you go through surgery if you're so wishywashy about it, then?

Because my body felt absolutely wrong to me, having a penis and having a male looking body was completely wrong to me.

I am so much happier in my body now.

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GCAcademic · 18/04/2025 15:06

Gender is something that is projected onto you by society, not something that you "live". You can "perform" it, by consciously adhering to reductive and harmful stereotypes, but why the law should require specific individuals to do so is beyond me.

The whole thing is a bunch of crap.

LadyBracknellsHandbagg · 18/04/2025 15:06

Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 14:28

There are 8834 people in the UK who have a Gender Recognition Certificate.
I am one of them.

To get it, I had to show evidence of transition, surgery etc. Lots of hoops

I also had to swear a Statutory Declaration. I had to go to a Magistrates Court and swear a legal declaration in front of a magistrate. It was all very formal.

I had to swear this:

" have lived as a (insert ‘male’ or ‘female’ as appropriate)
throughout the period of years before the date of this statutory
declaration and I intend to live in that gender until death."

This declaration is legally binding. Apparently if I don't follow this, I can be done for perjury.

So...how do I live as a female and live in that gender until death - I have sworn to do this in front of a magistrate.

I was very surprised that so few trans people have Gender Recognition Certificates.

There’s no such thing as a ‘female gender’, there are two sex classes, men and women, and by the sounds of it you are a man. You can’t ever live as a woman because you’re a man, and your idea of what women experience is not, and never will be, what we as women experience.

intrepidpanda · 18/04/2025 15:06

What are you doing that keeps your oath of living as a female
Is there a particular female thing you do that makes females female?

ErrolTheDragon · 18/04/2025 15:07

RedToothBrush · 18/04/2025 15:00

It's about as much use as a 50m swimming certificate.

And of course you don’t need a swimming certificate to be able to swim.

Everyone should be able to express or reject whatever aspects of ‘gender’ they want, without discrimination, provided it doesn’t conflict with other peoples protected characteristics rights.

Corinthiana · 18/04/2025 15:07

Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 15:06

Because my body felt absolutely wrong to me, having a penis and having a male looking body was completely wrong to me.

I am so much happier in my body now.

In what ways wrong? Did you have a strong sense of body dysmorphia? When did this start?

SpaceBunHun · 18/04/2025 15:07

Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 15:03

TBH, I am just going to keep on living my life how I want.

Who knows if that's living as male or a female.

Clearly, you don’t.

PollyPaintsFlowers · 18/04/2025 15:07

By being a biological woman. Otherwise you're not a woman. There's nothing wrong with being a man though

maximalistmaximus · 18/04/2025 15:08

No you did not have to show evidence of surgery. This was explicit in the Act.

Creu · 18/04/2025 15:08

Nothing screams “I’m definitely a woman” more than asking women how to pretend to be one.

LittleBearPad · 18/04/2025 15:08

Oblomov25 · 18/04/2025 15:00

Because it's all a lie. "Lived as a woman", but you can't, because you aren't one, so I have an issue with that part of the GRC. It recognised their gender, not their sex.

Was the whole GRC rushed through too quickly legally? with it recognising the problems going forward? I wonder. GRA 2004. Its been questioned since for sure.

Yes it was, not least because it was a fudge to solve same sex marriage

ErrolTheDragon · 18/04/2025 15:08

Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 15:06

Because my body felt absolutely wrong to me, having a penis and having a male looking body was completely wrong to me.

I am so much happier in my body now.

thats good. be the best version of yourself you can.

SpaceBunHun · 18/04/2025 15:08

Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 15:03

TBH, I am just going to keep on living my life how I want.

Who knows if that's living as male or a female.

And please keep out of women’s safe spaces. Men, of which you are one, are a massive danger to females.

Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 15:09

Corinthiana · 18/04/2025 15:07

In what ways wrong? Did you have a strong sense of body dysmorphia? When did this start?

I had a very strong sense of body dysmorphia which started a long time ago.

It is hard to explain why it felt wrong but I have absolutely no regrets over my surgery and the body changes that I undertook.

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RedToothBrush · 18/04/2025 15:09

Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 15:01

It clearly is now

Honestly? I think since gay marriage was legalised, it has been useless except as a tool to illegal remove the human rights of women to privacy and dignity... That's not to say I don't think transwomen shouldnt have privacy and dignity - it's just that it should never have come at the expense of women in the first place.

The idea that I could run into my brother (or any other male I know/knew) in the swimming pool changing room, is something I find utterly appalling because I know they haven't changed sex (even if they've had surgery). Psychologically I'd still feel violated because I had that knowledge.

This isn't hating anyone. This is being aware of my physical self (and being self conscious and anxious enough about being around other females in that environment). Being male takes it to another level that is different. I mean, if having a male body so revulsed you, why is it 'transphobic' for women to have a psychological response to being around someone they know to be male (regardless of surgery). Why the double stand on this?

It makes no sense.

This isnt meant to be offensive. This is stating the problem and the incoherency of the law and how it's utter bollocks for all concerned.

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