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So how do I live in the female gender?

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Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 14:28

There are 8834 people in the UK who have a Gender Recognition Certificate.
I am one of them.

To get it, I had to show evidence of transition, surgery etc. Lots of hoops

I also had to swear a Statutory Declaration. I had to go to a Magistrates Court and swear a legal declaration in front of a magistrate. It was all very formal.

I had to swear this:

" have lived as a (insert ‘male’ or ‘female’ as appropriate)
throughout the period of years before the date of this statutory
declaration and I intend to live in that gender until death."

This declaration is legally binding. Apparently if I don't follow this, I can be done for perjury.

So...how do I live as a female and live in that gender until death - I have sworn to do this in front of a magistrate.

I was very surprised that so few trans people have Gender Recognition Certificates.

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MuchasSmoochas · 18/04/2025 22:33

@ThisJadeFinch don’t even. Biology is completely different to sexual orientation. Really rude of you to suggest homophobia.

LobeliaBaggins · 18/04/2025 22:35

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You keep using the word afraid. I am not afraid that a transwoman giving me a mammo will hurt me in a hospital setting. i just dont want a man to give me a mammo.

Clearly you dont believe in single sex spaces. Thats your prerogative. But as I said, the time when you could dictate to the rest of us is over.

Oh, and most people can tell without genital examination, FFS

Pickleton1992 · 18/04/2025 22:36

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pinesofrome · 18/04/2025 22:36

I believe sex (ie. male/female man/woman) is biological and can't be changed.

As my DS(14) says "look in the mirror and deal with it".

I believe gender dysphoria is a psychological condition which needs to be treated with therapy/counselling rather than legislation and surgery. However I have TW friends and try to be sympathetic but I think they have been indulged.

Unsureabouteverything · 18/04/2025 22:36

usernamealreadytaken · 18/04/2025 22:31

Luckily, we don’t have to “wager”

That's v interesting (and horrifying), thanks! Could you link to where you found the statistics?

fiorenza · 18/04/2025 22:37

CeaselesslyIntoThePast · 18/04/2025 18:36

Speak for yourself!
Is this really how you feel? I certainly do not.

Er, as I am posting, I am speaking for myself.

It is not how I feel. It is my observation, and the experience of many women in the world.

I don't think you are quite old enough to have any inkling of what I'm talking about.

MyShiningTigerLight · 18/04/2025 22:37

Needspaceforlego · 18/04/2025 22:27

OMG, what happened ?
Did they sew them back up?
Did the baby survive?

The baby died.

There have been other cases where a trans man has been found to be pregnant in the preparation of a hysterectomy thanks to routine pregnancy tests for female patients, which go against the wishes of trans health wishes, where they want to be treated literally as the opposite sex.

Gettingbysomehow · 18/04/2025 22:38

Nextdoor55 · 18/04/2025 21:17

Yeah you shouldn't be working in the NHS. Get yourself some empathy. Or if you're comfortable say all this to your management & HR you'd probably be sacked off.

I've said it and I've refused to put pronouns in my emails. Im still here. You are just terrorists who don't give a damn about who gets hurt.
I have plenty of empathy. I did 10 years in men's prison medical unit. What have you done?

borntobequiet · 18/04/2025 22:40

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False equivalence.

Sunnywalker · 18/04/2025 22:41

@Definitelynamechanged123

What’s the difference between attitudes in Thailand and here ? Genuine question.

BetterWithPockets · 18/04/2025 22:42

OP, I’m really glad you’re happier now. I’m also glad that no man can suddenly ‘decide’ they’re female and therefore claim an automatic right to female only spaces. There’s a huge grey area in the middle and I think (hope) lots of women — whether trans or otherwise — can understand that. What I’d love to happen now is for all of us to sit down and work out a viable way forward (but I fear that won’t be what happens)... In the meantime, though, I want to be safe. I want my daughter to be safe. And I want you to be safe. How do we make that happen?

CraggyIslandTouristBoard · 18/04/2025 22:42

Catisgluedtome · 18/04/2025 15:10

I've reported this disgusting, transphobic thread. Shame on all you posters.

How’s that working out for you @Catisgluedtome?

MyShiningTigerLight · 18/04/2025 22:44

ThisFluentBiscuit · 18/04/2025 22:16

I don't believe that graph for one minute.

A feminist organisation first made the FOI request and wrote their original article with their findings (linked somewhere up thread).

A journalist, like you, didn’t believe it, because “this never happens” (except it does, with alarming regularity) so repeated the FOI request to prove those mean nasty women wrong, only the figures were higher than the feminists had first reported.

As far as I know anyone can make a FOI request, so if you don’t believe it go ahead and check it again.

Men will man no matter what they wear.

ThisJadeFinch · 18/04/2025 22:45

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fiorenza · 18/04/2025 22:46

Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 15:35

It's highlighting the GRC and the Declaration - especially with the recent Supreme Court ruling.

Maybe I should have just kept quiet instead if trying to "cause trouble" by posting on here and kept my thoughts to myself

But why would you post here if you wanted to discuss this? Why wouldn't you post on say Reddit, where there are any number of trans threads that would have far more knowledge of and interest in this proposed dilemma of yours?

Hoppinggreen · 18/04/2025 22:47

recipientofraspberries · 18/04/2025 22:31

Many, many pass in real life. It's a bit of a paradox because you've not noticed the ones who pass because... they pass. You've noticed the ones who don't pass and concluded that none of them do.

Its impossible to prove a negative but I am very very confident that Trans people look like their original sex and nothing anyone else says and no amount of photos will convince me otherwise.
They think they pass because nobody points at them and screams "MAN" or "WOMAN" at them but that would be just rude.
TM are women and I have never been sexually assaulted or leered at or treated like shit because of my sex by a woman so why would I have an issue with a TM in a women only space?

Gattopardo · 18/04/2025 22:47

Definitelynamechanged123 · 18/04/2025 14:54

Because of everything I have gone through over the last 20 years and it was the certificate that would have given a chance to "prove" my transition - with the body changes and the surgery.

You just get on and live your life, as best you can - like everyone else regardless of gender. You must have found a GRC meaningful enough to go through the process. So, own it and live your life.

You can rest easy in the knowledge that literally no-one is going to have you up for perjury in a court of law and succeed. That’s just hypothetical legal mental gymnastics.

Pickleton1992 · 18/04/2025 22:49

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Jimmyneutronsforehead · 18/04/2025 22:51

SleeplessInWherever · 18/04/2025 19:50

There are - none of which everyone requests or needs.

If I’m in hospital - I want to be treated. The gender identity of the person in the same room as me has no impact on the quality of treatment I receive.

Where should OP be in a hospital? Uncomfortable with the men’s ward? In a cupboard?

The OPs comfort isn't important compared to the safety of women.

It's very insulting to imply that's how it should be.

That woman that was raped on a woman's ward by a transwoman was put in that situation because a man said he was a woman and then had access to her. Q

Riaanna · 18/04/2025 22:51

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Yeah that’s the same 😂🤷‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

CantStopMoving · 18/04/2025 22:51

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not sure what being lesbian got to do with anything in this story. They are a masculine presenting woman - their sexuality is irrelevant . Some people have mistaken them for male. That has happened since the dawn of time. Now that the law has been clarified and people should now know they should only enter the bathroom of their biological sex, we should go back to how it was 25 years ago when when we saw someone gender non conforming we knew they were still the correct biological sex.

MyShiningTigerLight · 18/04/2025 22:52

“But yet, you are afraid of a person who speaks, looks, and acts like a woman (but who is a man transitioned to a woman) coming to a woman’s only festival”

Look, I don’t want to be rude here, but have you actually met any trans women?
They pass rarely, in photos with filters. A very few fine boned tiny men can maybe pass when they’ve had ffs.
They don’t pass in rl, they speak, look, walk and act like men. They mansplain like men. They expect to take up space like men. They hold court like men.

ThisJadeFinch · 18/04/2025 22:53

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MuchasSmoochas · 18/04/2025 22:54

Absolute 🤣 at using Pink News as a source especially when you Google the trans man who has a beautiful female face.

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 18/04/2025 22:55

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What an unbiased source of news 🙄

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