So how do I live in the female gender?

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There are 8834 people in the UK who have a Gender Recognition Certificate.
I am one of them.

To get it, I had to show evidence of transition, surgery etc. Lots of hoops

I also had to swear a Statutory Declaration. I had to go to a Magistrates Court and swear a legal declaration in front of a magistrate. It was all very formal.

I had to swear this:

" have lived as a (insert ‘male’ or ‘female’ as appropriate)
throughout the period of years before the date of this statutory
declaration and I intend to live in that gender until death."

This declaration is legally binding. Apparently if I don't follow this, I can be done for perjury.

So...how do I live as a female and live in that gender until death - I have sworn to do this in front of a magistrate.

I was very surprised that so few trans people have Gender Recognition Certificates.

No advice for you but just want to say I'm proud of you, a lot of mental pain and so uch physical pain with the ops, sending love ❤️

You’re dining out on luck.

Well that's completely the opposite of what we are constantly told.

Op i think you have been brave, respectful and fair.

And your point is?

You've posted several 'drama type' comments on this thread, none of which are relevant to the OP's questions. Do you get off on 'stirring'?

You continue to live in the se way you always have, this ruling is about sex not gender. Your sex based rights were never impacted by the equality act.

Flowergirlie, you are missing the point: that the law was unclear meant NOT ONLY Transwomen could go into a female only bathroom but ANY man could as long as he said the right words, because organisations were quick to catch on that it could ruin their reputation if they didn't land on the "right side" of public opinion, the right side being, give girls/women more inconvenience to deal with.

The inconvenience was not from Transwomen, it was from the hurdles they now had to jump through to protect themselves from other men exploiting this legal loophole to predate women.

I agree. People have just launched in on the OP as if they represent the views and attitudes of all trans people, rather than an ( unknown) single person.
Yet these same people would be rightly outraged if someone presumed that one woman represented all women.

Well I do. Many trans men just look like blokes, and have body mass to match due to being on testosterone. These are trans men pictured! And you may say that you still don't mind sharing loos and changing rooms with them because they were born female, but the point is you wouldn't know. They would just walk into the women's loo, and your experience would be "omg there's a bloke in here". But legally, that's now where they'll have to go!

How do you know it was a man? It might have been a TM, or a TW who still had a penis.

@Delphigirl my comment was meant to include these pics:

In response to your original question - I don't know.

Your issue isn't, and never was women's problem to sort out. It also wasn't women's responsibility to ensure trans people are protected in men's toilets either, because it's men that are causing that issue, not us, generally. It should be men ensuring that trans women are free to use men's toilets without harassment, not women being asked to make their vulnerable space more dangerous for the sake of being kind & inclusive.

We shouldn't be strong-armed into being a collective mother for all of society, a safe space personified, even if it puts us at greater risk than we already are of sexual assault. That's just wrong. We have enough of our own difficulties to deal with. Thanks to trans activists and people on the Left who thought that trans rights was a more glamorous & exciting topic than the safety of plain old silly women, this erosion of women's rights we've seen in the past decade was one more.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/cricket/2023/02/17/parents-demands-answers-ecb-trans-woman-competing-against-girls/

https://nypost.com/2023/12/15/news/50-year-old-transgender-woman-shared-pool-locker-room-with-young-girls-at-race/

Love this!!!

Probably would have been best to just stay the way you were born 🤷‍♀️ I’m not really interested in how people ‘feel’, I’m interested in their chromosomes. XX = you can share a bathroom with me. XY- Toddle off to the men’s please.

But it’s our choice, it’s not forced upon us.

I don't know the answer to your question, OP but yanbu to ask it. I am sorry that this week's ruling, whilst being a cause for celebration for many, has brought despair to a huge number. I hope you can continue to live peacefully and happily as YOU. 💐

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Transwomen have more in common with men than with women because they are men, which raises an important point about language. Instead of using the term 'man,' perhaps we should refer to all men as 'transwomen' to create clarity and inclusivity?

@Flowergirlie91 only a total dumbass would think this issue is solely or even mostly about women being afraid transwomen will attack them. It is about being allowed to define spaces as single sex at all. The danger is men. You really need to do some reading around this.

@CliantheLang I've actually never had a comment made in sincerity have the laugh reaction put on it before on mumsnet. I'm speaking here in good faith, if you want to disagree with what I'm saying have the decency to do it openly, not privately let me know you're laughing at me.

I’m just clarifying what the Supreme Court ruled. If an organisation decides to have single sex spaces they have to be biologically single sex. So yes trans men are considered a subset of women and trans women are a subset of men. It would be unlawful to not accept a trans person.

an organisation is allowed to decide its own policies. They just now have clarity about what the definition of sex is for the purpose of the equality act 2010.

why would women be bothered if trans men came to a woman’s event? They are female. That is what has just been clarified. Why would it shut those events down?

And no, they shouldn't use the women's toilets either, because they're not women

That isn't a problem because women don't go into loos in order to assault other women.