So how do I live in the female gender?

[Definitelynamechanged123]

There are 8834 people in the UK who have a Gender Recognition Certificate.
I am one of them.

To get it, I had to show evidence of transition, surgery etc. Lots of hoops

I also had to swear a Statutory Declaration. I had to go to a Magistrates Court and swear a legal declaration in front of a magistrate. It was all very formal.

I had to swear this:

" have lived as a (insert ‘male’ or ‘female’ as appropriate)
throughout the period of years before the date of this statutory
declaration and I intend to live in that gender until death."

This declaration is legally binding. Apparently if I don't follow this, I can be done for perjury.

So...how do I live as a female and live in that gender until death - I have sworn to do this in front of a magistrate.

I was very surprised that so few trans people have Gender Recognition Certificates.

they missed the boat on that with Freddie O'Connel (sp?) who - IIRC - got pregnant and had a baby after obtaining a GRC (FtM)

I'm surprised @Definitelynamechanged123 that you had to show evidence of surgeries. May i ask which ones?i was under the impression that gaining a GRC was not contingent on having any surgeries (SRS?). And i would not be in favour of that being compulsory, tbh

But as pp said: adhere to outdated gender stereotypes that i, for one, have spent about 50 years trying get rid of

Why would trans men attending women only festivals cause panic? Transmen are women.

But my whole point is that you wouldn't know the people I posted pictures of (for example) had been born female. You, as a woman, would just see a man walking into the womens' loo or changing room. If I saw any of those people come into the womens' loo I would feel panicky thinking a man was invading the space. It's not simple or black and white in practice, even if it is in theory.

OP, I think this is close, although without the nastiness at the end.

You do what you perceive as being 'female'. whatever makes you feel comfortable in your skin. It will be different from what everyone else thinks, because we are all individuals but that's fine. I genuinely hope you achieve a state that makes you happy.

But you will never experience chronic period pain or flooding or childbirth or the menopause or the agony of first breast feeding. You'll never suffer a mastectomy or a necrotic ovarian cyst or an episiotomy. All those things that mean women need privacy to retain their dignity and security, things we have fought for over centuries to achieve.

And that's why you should respect a woman's right to that privacy and not presume that you can ride roughshod over those rights. Nothing can change biological fact. A Y chromosome cannot become an X chromosome, which is why the supreme court made the decision it did.

But you wouldn't be able to tell, most of the time. You'd just see a load of blokes (in this example) rocking up to a womens only space.

Absolutely nails it. ^

Funny though, I don’t think I’ve ever heard of any so-called trans woman holding this up as the beacon of womanhood to which they are supposedly striving 🤔

I don't believe that graph for one minute.

According to the CPS,”Research indicates that 62% - 73% of transgender people have experienced harassment and violence because they were identified as transgender. This included verbal abuse, threatening behaviour, physical and sexual assault.

The United Nations Entity for Gender Equality and Empowerment of Women (UN Women), is a branch of the UN that has a goal to “develop and uphold standards and create an environment in which every woman and girl can exercise her human rights and live up to her full potential.” The UK branch of the organization recently did a study of over 1000 women living in the UK. The results were shocking. Seventy-one percent of women in the UK said they have experienced sexual harassment in public. Another startling fact is that only three percent of women aged 18-24 had never experienced any of the behaviors they were asked about, meaning 97 percent of the surveyed age group had experienced some form of sexual harassment.

Yes, I’d say a fear of rape is common. Not in the high street in the middle of the day. But coming out of a tube into a dark outdoor station, yes. In a big space with corners, like a museum on holiday. Or when an unknown tradesman enters my house.

Those are all very different to being run over a bus or murdered by an axe man.

Hmm to be fair on you this is difficult to answer… at the end of the day, if we go down to the facts (which sounds much harsher than the message I’m trying to put across). You are a male who has silicone implants in your chest and your penis turned inside out (if that makes you feel better about yourself I’ve no problem at all with that fire on) but it is unfair to demand that a male who has had plastic surgery is to act and feel like a female which they not, if I was you I would never have signed that document because you (nor anyone in your position) can ever deliver those expectations.

No. I'm amused by your sexist stereotypes. Ballet and baking? Pretty clothes and accessories? I spent the day up a scaffold fixing a roof, living my best life. I suspect you probably have more in common with the OP than you do with me. I'm still a woman, he's still a man.

Certainly the bearded person showing off biceps has got very feminine forearms and teeny girly hands. There is almost always a tell, though easier to see in real life and in motion rather than in pictures, which are generally carefully chosen.

It’s interesting how after years of ignoring the reality of trans men—who are biologically female—some people are suddenly raising concern about them having to use female toilets. For the past decade, barely anyone has spoken about the safety, dignity, or rights of trans men. Why? Because they’re female, and society doesn’t prioritise the concerns of female people—even when they identify as male.

Nice to have a straw trans man for once.

@Meadowfinch it's not nastiness. don't be hyperbolic.

Excellent idea.

I could look 15 or 20 years younger, 3 stone lighter and much taller in photos.
Saying that Trans men and women can pass as their preferred sex based on photos is Bull, they don't pass IRL

You generally can tell past a first glance for most trans men. There is no getting around height, hand and feet size. Biologically men and women have completely different frames and no drugs or surgery can alter stature. I agree some trans men may pass, particularly if tall but most would be obviously female in a women’s group. Think Elliot Page who has never passed for male.

OMG, what happened ?
Did they sew them back up?
Did the baby survive?

You are a man. You need to go and talk to other men about how you collectively fix this so that you feel safe in male spaces. It is not for women to solve this for you.

90/95% of trans women still have a penis. Most don’t want to get rid of it.
So I think that’s probably a big reason why surgery isn’t required. According to them, having a penis doesn’t make you any less of a woman.

All the transmen I’ve met look like butch lesbians.
I’ve seen photos of bearded burly TM, but in rl have never met any.
There was an interesting documentary about spies years ago that explained why women can disguise themselves as the opposite sex more successfully than men, mainly because whatever men can do to disguise their sex they still code as men nearly 100% of the time.

All the TW I’ve met still look like men.

So truth be told, the vast majority don’t pass.

Luckily, we don’t have to “wager”

Many, many pass in real life. It's a bit of a paradox because you've not noticed the ones who pass because... they pass. You've noticed the ones who don't pass and concluded that none of them do.