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Paid over £150 for daughters hair and she hates it!

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Brainfogmcfogface · 11/04/2025 17:52

What do I do?
my daughter (10yo) has been pleading for months to have her hair in long braids, 7 hours at the salon, lots of tears, and we’ve come home and she’s broken down saying she hates it, I’ve scrimped and saved for this, (single mum very low paying wage just about make ends meet) it’ll take hours to remove too, I just don’t know! What would others do? Tell her to keep it for a bit, whilst she cries her heart out, start taking it out? She’s got added hair, and they’re super long and I’ve no experience removing so god knows how long it’ll take, we’ve spent the whole day at the salon and I’ve had to put away every spare penny! I’m so sad she’s so upset, I wanted her first proper salon experience to be a good one, now I don’t think she’ll ever want to come to one again, I think she looks stunning btw! And was so excited to get it done, it’s been an exhausting day, but rather then a “it’ll be worth it in the end” experience it’s now a complete waste of time and money!

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Grammarnut · 11/04/2025 21:44

Waterweight · 11/04/2025 21:26

I would assume it has to do with health care - when it's successfully being provided - is simply tailored better for white women in white country's/black women in black country's, a white European country probably isn't necessarily going to be the best place for a black African women to give birth depending on their needs & complications in general.

Im not fully sold on the racist aspect of it your implying (because I genuinely think there are faults in the system itself that enables certain people to rise to the top career wise & under performers to hide out)

I agree with you. The reasons behind the higher rate of problems for black women bearing children in the UK are complex. Cultural factors particularly around male-delivered gynaecolical care, reluctance to come in for pre-natal care, different work patterns, different expectations about pre- and post-natal care, different expectations about giving birth, FGM, language difficulties all play a part. Racism is the least of our problems here - and, of course, many health practioners are themselves black or Asian. Presumably they are not being racist in their care of black or Asian women?
Blaming racism means we don't have to address the other problems, too.

pinkstripeycat · 11/04/2025 21:46

happytobee · 11/04/2025 17:59

I’m assuming she is mixed race or black?

If she’s white she is going to get no end of harassment at school about cultural appropriation…

Most of us get a massive shock when we change our hair or looks drastically but she might start to love it once she gets over the change, tell her to stick with it until the end of the holidays at least and then see how she feels then?

Don’t be ridiculous. No one calls it cultural appropriation when a black person straightens or dyes their hair blonde.

Funny how it’s always white people that are more offended by things like this.

Grammarnut · 11/04/2025 21:55

purpleandcoral · 11/04/2025 20:22

Nothing at all.

I was illustrating the point that whilst white women like the poster I was responding to are stressing that white women ‘can’t’ have whichever hairstyle they want, there are much bigger racial inequalities that black women deal with every single day. Childbirth being just one of them.

I don't get your point on either count. Poor childbearing outcomes among black women in the UK have complex origins in culture, cultural practices such as FGM, family expectations, problems that are specifically found in Sub-Saharan populations that may not be recognised by HCP in the UK, or not recognised as being a danger to mother or child.

The hair problem is completely obscure. Why should white women not plait their hair? Hair plaiting has been found among Europeans for millenia. The Vikings plaited their hair and given the Vikings got everywhere may be the source of plaiting traditions in parts of Africa. Women in Europe have always plaited their hair. Medieval and Renaissance portraits show such styles, with complex plaiting, including using beads and other ornaments in the hair. There is no cultural appropriation in a white woman plaiting her hair any way she chooses, or in choosing any hairstyle she chooses.

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70isaLimitNotaTarget · 11/04/2025 21:58

EntropyCentral · 11/04/2025 20:46

She's probably just far too young to put up with discomfort for fashion. She didn't realise how they would feel

There's a very very old saying that my mother often used when I wore stupid stuff like platform shoes or stiletto heels and ended up with a sprained ankle.
Or tight fitting underwear to make me look streamlined.
'Pride is painful'

Ha! My mum used to say "Pride Knows No Pain"

Similar but opposite 😉

FlatWhiteExtraHot · 11/04/2025 21:58

Coconutter24 · 11/04/2025 19:14

Op could afford it though because she paid for it with money she had saved. Yes she scrimped and saved to be able to get the money but she had the money. People on low wages can save for treats

Don’t be silly. Us povvos are supposed to exist on bread and water and be grateful for it. Heaven forbid we save up for anything nice!

surreygirl1987 · 11/04/2025 22:03

Brainfogmcfogface · 11/04/2025 20:19

Again for all the helpful advice thank you.

For those of you who are so concerned about the cost, I’ll bite! My daughter has constantly asked for her hair to be straightened in the past, she has said how much she hates her hair, hearing my perfect little hips talk so badly of herself hurts, (I won’t do it for fear of damage) so the fact she asked for this, was excited about it and loved looking at options, well quite frankly if it’d been twice as much I’d have found a way, this isn’t just a hair style, it’s an act of self love and acceptance, I want her to love her hair as much as I do.

As I said she loves how it looks! I’ve spoken to the salon and they’ve given me some advice and said she can come back, so booked her an appointment next week for her to see if there’s anything they can do, she said she’ll wait till then so hopefully she’ll settle and be fine with it. The FaceTiming friends suggestion was golden! Her friend’s comments have really helped and she came off the calls a lot happier.
I think I panicked at her reaction, as, aside from the money, she was so looking forward to the experience and i hate the idea of her being so unhappy, but a few hours in and though she still says it feels hard, she understands it’ll take some time, and she’s calmed down and accepted that, I’m hoping I won’t need the appointment next week.

You sound like an amazing mum ❤️

FlatWhiteExtraHot · 11/04/2025 22:05

soupyspoon · 11/04/2025 19:28

Im afraid I agree, and I know its not helpful OP but really what on earth caused you to think this was an appropriate amount of money to spend on a 10 year olds hair, no matter what the treatment/style.

I dont pay that for mine!

Do you spend 7 hours having your hair done then? Do you visit a salon for black women and girls?

£150 equates to just over £20 an hour, hardly an outrageous amount considering the service provided and the costs involved.

purpleandcoral · 11/04/2025 22:05

Grammarnut · 11/04/2025 21:55

I don't get your point on either count. Poor childbearing outcomes among black women in the UK have complex origins in culture, cultural practices such as FGM, family expectations, problems that are specifically found in Sub-Saharan populations that may not be recognised by HCP in the UK, or not recognised as being a danger to mother or child.

The hair problem is completely obscure. Why should white women not plait their hair? Hair plaiting has been found among Europeans for millenia. The Vikings plaited their hair and given the Vikings got everywhere may be the source of plaiting traditions in parts of Africa. Women in Europe have always plaited their hair. Medieval and Renaissance portraits show such styles, with complex plaiting, including using beads and other ornaments in the hair. There is no cultural appropriation in a white woman plaiting her hair any way she chooses, or in choosing any hairstyle she chooses.

I actually didn’t once mention cultural appropriation. I personally do not care how white women wear their hair, it is entirely up to them and has no relevance to me whatsoever. And frankly, how anyone wears their hair is nobody’s business. Yet that doesn’t stop schools and workplaces from discriminating against natural hairstyles and braids.

My annoyance was the the post I replied to made the point that ‘why is it that white women can’t wear their hair however they want, if it was was the other way around there’d be a riot’.

It smacks of privilege to be in a position where they said that out of all the inequities that black women face in the world that we would riot about the hair choices of white women. We have much bigger fish to fry.

Socrateswasrightaboutvoting · 11/04/2025 22:08

Quit talking about Vikings and Europeans with braids, they are not the same style. Box braids and cornrows did not originate in Europe. This video talks about box braids and the same applies to cornrows.

Kat | Reposted • @pghlesbian @ocjusticeinitiative So lets make sure we EDUCATE each other on our true history. Box braids originate from... | Instagram

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https://www.instagram.com/reel/DHHc9wJRO_F/?igsh=MW4yN2NkOTVxZjd5Yg%3D%3D

ilovesooty · 11/04/2025 22:11

QuillBill · 11/04/2025 18:26

Maybe she’s just tired and uncomfortable because of the pulling and the extra weight on her scalp.

I’d say ‘let’s not talk about this any more tonight and we will see how you feel in the morning’.

Then see what she has to say about it tomorrow.

That sounds sensible. After 7 hours in the salon she's probably overwhelmed.

despairdespair · 11/04/2025 22:12

Brainfogmcfogface · 11/04/2025 20:19

Again for all the helpful advice thank you.

For those of you who are so concerned about the cost, I’ll bite! My daughter has constantly asked for her hair to be straightened in the past, she has said how much she hates her hair, hearing my perfect little hips talk so badly of herself hurts, (I won’t do it for fear of damage) so the fact she asked for this, was excited about it and loved looking at options, well quite frankly if it’d been twice as much I’d have found a way, this isn’t just a hair style, it’s an act of self love and acceptance, I want her to love her hair as much as I do.

As I said she loves how it looks! I’ve spoken to the salon and they’ve given me some advice and said she can come back, so booked her an appointment next week for her to see if there’s anything they can do, she said she’ll wait till then so hopefully she’ll settle and be fine with it. The FaceTiming friends suggestion was golden! Her friend’s comments have really helped and she came off the calls a lot happier.
I think I panicked at her reaction, as, aside from the money, she was so looking forward to the experience and i hate the idea of her being so unhappy, but a few hours in and though she still says it feels hard, she understands it’ll take some time, and she’s calmed down and accepted that, I’m hoping I won’t need the appointment next week.

Aah that’s great OP ,you sound like a lovely Mum.X

Hankunamatata · 11/04/2025 22:19

Probably a bit late but perhaps some paracetamol and ibuprofen as they might be a bit sore.
Did they give you advice on how to prep them to sleep so they are comfortable and don't get tangled?

ForDaringGreySeal · 11/04/2025 22:20

I would

  1. Give it 24 hour and see how she gets on.

2.If she hates them still I would see if cutting them right down them helps the situation? If they're very long it's going to feel very weird and very heavy. Cutting them off a few inches might help

3.if that doesn't work, help her to embrace her natural hair. And the fact that it's a shitty world that has a ten year old sitting in a chair for 7 hours instead of playing during the school holidays. Simply because she's a girl and a black one at that. Hopefully she'll realize what a con it is and then never get caught up in the nonsense again! No one would even expect a boy of ten to waste a whole day on his appearance.

Supporthelittleguys · 11/04/2025 22:21

Telling a white girl she can’t have braids because that’s a black hairstyle, is like telling a black girl she can’t have straight long hair because that’s a white girl hairstyle. Whatever way round you play it, it’s racist. So stfu with the culture appropriation bollocks.

ForDaringGreySeal · 11/04/2025 22:23

Supporthelittleguys · 11/04/2025 22:21

Telling a white girl she can’t have braids because that’s a black hairstyle, is like telling a black girl she can’t have straight long hair because that’s a white girl hairstyle. Whatever way round you play it, it’s racist. So stfu with the culture appropriation bollocks.

Oh stop your fucking whining.

LondonFox · 11/04/2025 22:24

Though love but why would you spend money to get a 10y old fancy hair extentions??

My household is above average income and I do my childrens hair.

Supporthelittleguys · 11/04/2025 22:25

@ForDaringGreySeal stop your fucking whining!! It’s absolutely true. Can you actually imagine it the other way around? ‘My daughter had her hair straightened today.’ Is your daughter white??? Wouldn’t happen would it?! Because it would be entirely inappropriate (which it is!)

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localnotail · 11/04/2025 22:26

If she has Caucasian hair and they done too tight she might end up with permanent damage/ bold spots, so if it hurts you better remove it. If she has Black heritage and it was done properly I would keep it and see if she gets used to it.

But, overall, very unwise spending this much on a 10 year old's folly.

ForDaringGreySeal · 11/04/2025 22:28

Supporthelittleguys · 11/04/2025 22:25

@ForDaringGreySeal stop your fucking whining!! It’s absolutely true. Can you actually imagine it the other way around? ‘My daughter had her hair straightened today.’ Is your daughter white??? Wouldn’t happen would it?! Because it would be entirely inappropriate (which it is!)

No, it would never happen that anyone would tell black child they couldn't have something. 🥴 Do you know why terms like "cultural appropriation" exist? Read a fucking History book.

Hoppinggreen · 11/04/2025 22:29

ymemanresu · 11/04/2025 21:25

Disgusting comments on here ‘can’t believe you paid that when you’re broke’ ie steroetype mum is on low income therefore on benefits, daughter is black so ‘ooh must be on benefits, black people are poor’ 🙄🙄🙄😡

Rubbish
OP was the one who described her financial situation and she did so before she mentioned her DD's colour so nobody except you has equated black people with poverty.
And who mentioned benefits?

ForDaringGreySeal · 11/04/2025 22:29

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I know you think you're making a clever point, but you're actually showing that you really don't understand what you're talking about. In a quite painfully embarrassing way.

localnotail · 11/04/2025 22:29

Lol people whining and not believing cultural appropriation exists. Have you been living under a rock?

FlatWhiteExtraHot · 11/04/2025 22:30

localnotail · 11/04/2025 22:26

If she has Caucasian hair and they done too tight she might end up with permanent damage/ bold spots, so if it hurts you better remove it. If she has Black heritage and it was done properly I would keep it and see if she gets used to it.

But, overall, very unwise spending this much on a 10 year old's folly.

For goodness sake RTFT! The OP said her child was black on the first page.

@LondonFox why on earth are you boasting about your income? No one cares.

Supporthelittleguys · 11/04/2025 22:31

@ForDaringGreySeal wtf are you talking about? I couldn’t give a shit if you’re white, black or purple you can’t undo a negative with a negative. White people can have braids, black people can have straight hair. Anyone can have basically whatever fucking hair they want.

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