why the effing jeffing is there a Surrogacy board on Mumsnet???

[nevertuesday]

I have been on MN for 15 years or so and only just realised via a post in Active Threads, that there is a Surrogacy board on Mumsnet??

I only read a couple of the discussions there, along the lines of can I buy my baby abroad? has anyone else had a baby via Surrogacy?? so, looks to be a chat board to SUPPORT people try to remove babies from their mothers using cash.

huh?? on Mumsnet?

Okay, I’m not doing this with you anymore as you’re clearly trolling. You supposedly can’t see the difference between adoption and surrogacy or trafficking women or risking their bodies to have a baby and car crashes. You can troll someone else now, enjoy it.

@Anchorage56Would you agree to have a full term pregnancy for another couple? Have you been pregnant before? What reasons can persuade you to do it for someone else?

Let’s think about these ‘some women’ that do agree? They can’t be that different to me and you.

Reckon Anchorage has a financial interest in surrogacy.

@Sandysandsands
Actually, I think that study is talking about "surrogates" as any non-biological parent. So this would include step-fathers, new boyfriends etc.

Only around 1000 babies are born in the US through surrogacy in the usual sense of the word per year, so the stat would be near impossible if it were using the word in this sense.

No I dont think any amount of money would make me want to be a surrogate. That's my thoughts. Why do you ask?

There’s more than one case. Its entire concept aided by a lack of regulation makes it very easy for paedophiles to create a baby to abuse.

https://theworld.org/stories/2016/07/30/israeli-sex-offender-taps-indias-booming-surrogacy-trade-baby-girl

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-09-01/australian-who-fathered-surrogate-twins-facing-abuse-charges/5710796

Oh god now were going down the paedo route 🤦‍♀️ what next mass murderers who choose surrogacy. We got stats on that?

I'm sorry we must ban surrogacy in the UK just in case a paedo comes along

Oh, ok. I asked any reasons but straight away you are thinking of ‘amount of money’.
You see it as a paid service and you approve of it as long as it’s not you.

I was trying to imply it isnt something I would decide to do so I was using the idea that there is no amount of money that would make me do it to illustrate that. Even if I knew a couple who were desperate for a kid they couldn't carry themselves I wouldn't do it, but I'd absolutely help them find the right person.

I see miss sandwich short of a picnic is still trying to say something by reacting to my post.

It was the irony, it was too funny. Although the irony of this post deserves it too really.

Honestly, top tier trolling, you’re good at this.

Yes indeed the irony. Now go back to doing what you said you wanted.

Exactly

In a previous job I had to deal with several babies born to Ukrainian surrogates. Not one of the families showed any regard for the surrogate whatsoever. Once they had their baby, the surrogate was sent back to Ukraine without a second thought. One had had a terrible birth resulting in a c section and also a hysterectomy. They wouldn’t pay for her to stay in hospital to recover, she went home on a bus. It needs to be banned.

There's always going to be examples of bad people behaving badly as other posters have also pointed out. Although the examples raised seem to involve people from other countries. So I guess they could bring in a rule for UK surrogacy that it needs to be between UK residents only.

@TooBigForMyBoots

Bonkers question .You think the baby would prefer not to exist?🙄

Is it ok to buy children? What age does it become unacceptable?

You used the word 'need' about surrogacy. No one ' needs' surrogacy because no one is entitled to have a child. Sometimes you just cant.

Fucking hell, @Anchorage56, there's something seriously wrong with you if you think that is something to laugh about.

Should i be able to buy a 5 year old if i want to?

It’s still the exploitation of a woman though… the use of her body, and all the risks that pregnancy carries, to fulfil the wants of someone else.

Sometimes you can- its perfectly legal. I take it your against IVF as well? If you believe certain people shouldn't have kids if nature said no.

So the surrogate has no idea what pregnancy and birth involves? And no idea how she might feel then giving up the child? If your using someone incapable of giving consent through mental disability then of course that's wrong. That's the same for anything.

I'm laughing at the ridiculous comment. You think , even if there is trauma of some sort , directly after birth that that will impact a child for their whole life? If I try to imagine how I would feel if my parents told me they had used a surrogate, I'd like to think I would understand they longed for a child, my mother couldn't have a pregnancy for whatever reason, they chose surrogacy using their own egg and sperm, and have spent my life loving me. I would hope I would still carry on my life as normal and not suddenly claim trauma or abuse or the like.

Do you think people shouldn't?