PIP for ADHD

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Been in the news this morning as labour looking to slash benefits bills the cost is enormous and growing.

One of the main points discussed was getting PIP for ADHD I did not think this was possible …🤔.

We are taxed more than ever so cuts will abve to be made but surely this is madness giving out PIP for ADHD …there are genuine claims but… they said there are a 1000 new people per day now claiming PIP…so those on the make are going to spoil or for genuine a claims but something is very wrong 😦with the benefits system.

The numbers we are spending on benefits are incredible …let’s see what they slash but cuts are coming under Labour as it’s got out of hand.

It depends on the persons needs it is not awarded just for a diagnosis

disability benefits aren’t awarded based on diagnosis, they are awarded based on level of need.

For someone with ADHD to be getting PIP then they will have been assessed as having significant difficulties in day to day life.

That’s not how PIP works……..

You obviously have no clue about how the motability scheme works.

Perhaps take some time to do some proper research on these things before jumping to conclusions?

PiP is all about how your condition affects your you, not what condition you have.

Can you prepare a basic meal unaided, get dressed unaided, walk a certain distance unaided etc etc. My dh is in the process of applying for pip and we are really worried it'll fail, as they are now cracking down hard on it. He does have a mental health condition but it's his neurological condition that affects him a lot more. Having to prove this etc is going to be stressful but he does have support of the doctors and one supporting letter. We should be getting another supporting letter soon hope too.

I understand them clamping down on it. I personally think if you have multiple medical professionals agreeing you qaulify, then it should be given. However it shouldn't be given without that either

The benefits bill is huge and they need to make cuts 100% as they can’t keep taxing everyone to the hilt…ADHD seems to be the focus at moment …I think a lot of people me included didn’t know it was even possible …🤔

OP you’re making a bit of a fool of yourself here. You can’t start a benefit bashing thread without knowing about benefits. Educate yourself then return?

What are you hoping to get out of this thread?

Clearly you either don’t have a clue how a PIP works, or you are just trying to stir up outrage.

Oh brilliant, the daily benefits bashing thread. You don’t know how motobility works, you don’t know what adhd actually is and you don’t actually seem to understand why PIP is awarded (newsflash, it’s not just writing ‘I can’t sit still’ on a piece of paper and they give you £££ and a flash German car).

Because they qualified for the enhanced mobility rate, and that means that they can lease a car on the Motorbility scheme. What does it matter what the range of cars are available on it? You don't sound like you even know anything about it. So educate yourself first.

Undiagnosed ADHD destroyed my partner’s mental health, work life and relationships, before being diagnosed in his 40s. I totally get that it’s a sliding scale in terms of how much people are affected by it, and that there may be over-diagnosis, particularly in the private sector. But when it’s bad it can severely affect people’s daily lives.

Incidentally he doesn’t drive because he says he would not be a safe driver as he’s so easily distracted. He tried for a mobility payment to help with (public) transport costs but didn’t get it.

OP, have a look on the Motability website. Nary a BMW to be had.

I am not benefits bashing!! It’s all over the news and papers as Labour are cutting the benefits bill.

This was the main topic as people shocked at what PIP is being given for the topic was ADHD.

I get so sick of these threads. No diagnosis alone gets PIP. There is a list of descriptors and criteria for points. If your condition meets the criteria for points in that descriptor, you get those points. For the daily living part you need 8 points for standard rate and 12 points for enhanced rate. In essence, to get higher rate you either need to be profoundly affected in one or two areas of daily living, severely affected in 3 or 4 areas of daily living, or moderately affected in all areas of daily living, or a combination.

ADHD can be extremely debilitating. DD3 has ASD, ADHD, and OCD. She currently accesses education for 4.5 hours per week, and if she pushes herself on one day, it wipes out the next day. She is unable to leave the house except for a specific 1 mile journey in the car. She has to have school staff come to the house to tutor her because she can't go to them.

I'm not going to justify all the reasons why she will qualify for PIP when she turns 16 next month (currently receiving DLA) but I can assure you she won't be getting a BMW. Believe me, we'd rather have a normal life.

You can but there is a large advance payment to get one.

It’s possible.

However having ADHD isn’t a passport to PIP, you have to prove that having ADHD results in significant impact/needs on your day-to-day life. Which isn’t necessarily easy.

A close family member was diagnosed in childhood, he’s very dependent on parents to manage (couldn’t plan a meal or get public transport to work) and struggles a lot with communication. But with the support of his parents manages to hold down a job as a kitchen porter. He was denied.

A friends partner was diagnosed in their early 40s, prior to this they held down a career as a teacher and managed to raised 2 kids as the primary carer. They applied and were granted.

The main difference will be what they wrote in their application and said in their assessment. One may have considered and communicated the impacts/needs more, the one may not have.

They can't just not award PIP based on a diagnosis though can they? So the basis of the reforms seems to be making it harder for everyone to claim and hoping that weeds out the MH ones. I read ( someone posted a Times article on here) that people will need to score four points on at least one descriptor to be awarded PIP - as well as the rest of the points across other descriptors to get enough for an award. Not sure whether this will actually happen of course. I think something has to be done and quickly. One thousand new claims a day Wes Streeting highlighted today. No wonder the system is overwhelmed.

You can get a BMW, a few are listed. But what difference does that make? Should only Fords be available OP?

Have you actually read the posts people have made above pip isn’t given for a diagnosis of adhd. It is given based on if people’s needs meet the criteria whether they have adhd or not

Wahey I didn’t have to wait long for a benefit bashing thread this morning.

op spend your morning educating yourself on how motorbility actually works and how pip is not given based on your condition but how it effects you. You’ve made a right fool of yourself on here

Yes, you can get PIP for ADHD.
As PP have said, it to do with the help you need rather than the condition you have. You can read the descriptors online here.

As you can see, you can pick up quite a few of the lower points for needing to be prompted or encouraged to do things. These would all be relevant to someone with ADHD.

I recently helped someone claim. They picked up points for "prompting" in getting dressed, eating, managing medication and managing budgeting decisions. Reflecting their general difficulties in organising themselves.

If you milk the system just right you don't need to stop at a BMW, I got a ferrari.

I think it might be a good idea gif you to do a big of research.

no one gets given a £50,000 car on the Motability scheme.

real life example: person with multiple disabilities which include wheelchair and upper body mobility issues - 1) they have to lease the car 2) they had to pay for the majority of adaptations needed in the car 3) they have to return the car when they’re told and it has to be in pristine condition if they are fined.

Thus is in the notability scheme.

whomever told you that someone was ‘given’ a £50000 vehicle is talking bollocks.

Cutting motability will mean (a lot of) car dealers go bust. And end up on UC.

Cutting PIP means less cash for the businesses that received those payments.

You aren't some noble taxpaying hero on your own island. The private sector relies on the public sector just as much as the opposite.

Your job probably doesn't need to be done, statistically speaking, so you're not superior to the people on benefits you just get your money through a different route. You're part of a bigger context.