PIP for ADHD

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Been in the news this morning as labour looking to slash benefits bills the cost is enormous and growing.

One of the main points discussed was getting PIP for ADHD I did not think this was possible …🤔.

We are taxed more than ever so cuts will abve to be made but surely this is madness giving out PIP for ADHD …there are genuine claims but… they said there are a 1000 new people per day now claiming PIP…so those on the make are going to spoil or for genuine a claims but something is very wrong 😦with the benefits system.

The numbers we are spending on benefits are incredible …let’s see what they slash but cuts are coming under Labour as it’s got out of hand.

In fact receipt of pip quite often enables someone to work who may not be otherwise able to.

Yes, absolutely.

Agreed I find this confusing too. Someone connected to my family apparently gets it for adhd. Also relative is sure his daughter will get it for autism. From looking at the criteria I have no idea how this would be awarded?

But the thing is, OP, is that you’ve decided to pick on ADHD specifically. You’ve demonstrated that you have zero knowledge and understanding of how it can impact how an individual is able to function in daily life. As so many in here have said, PIP isn’t related to diagnosis but to the impact it has.
And then of course you made the comment about a 50k BMW. That’s straight out of the Daily Mail playbook.

How do other countries do their benefits system - better or worse than UK?

That's why you don't make the decisions I mean you could apply to be an assessor if you like I'm sure you would cut that benefit bill right down!

Are these people actually assessed though or is just done on looking at documents?

I will never understand how PIP is calculated.

I know some people with disabilities that render them incapable of doing much independently who get refused it and have to appeal even when their situation is never going to change. I know someone else who’s young and physically fit, drives a car, travels up and down the country for his hobby, who gets pip for adhd/depression 🤷🏼‍♀️

The part of benefits I see an opportunity for is in connection with the number of families being supported by one parent + UC. This could be more of an opportunity Vs cost of PIP for issues resulting from ADHD.

Disclaimer - I don't know the details of how UC works but it seems to me, based on MN threads, to be a big cost Vs parents living together, running one household and supporting their DC between them. Why is the second parent not a) made to paid a sensible amount towards their DC's upbringing which is enforced therefore can be relied on and b) why is this not taken into account with benefit claims?

We need to normalise and motivate people to live in a family unit (it's much cheaper for the state), as well as expect people to choose their DC's parents wisely to start with, i.e. someone you can live with and coparent with for decades.

It is concerning that 20% of new cars are bought on the motability scheme. This isn’t a dig at benefits claimants but it sounds to me like motability might be a Tory bung to their mates in the car industry, just like help to buy was a bung to their mates in the property industry.

Yay, the daily benefits bashing thread! I salute all those who are here trying to explain how the system actually works and what it's all about, but you're on a hiding to nowhere. The people who start these threads and those who support them either don't want to know or do know, but don't care.

Which is sad, because we're all one major illness or serious accident away from needing that support.

some are from documents but alot will be assessed in person

The cars aren’t bought. You cannot buy a vehicle through Motability.

It’s a lease - you give up your mobility allowance in exchange for the lease, generally gave to make a substantial down payment, and then top up the difference between your mobility allowance and the cost of yhd lease. On top of that you may need to pay for any adaptations. At then end of 3-5 years, just like in a normal lease, you have to hand yhd vehicle back and it needs to be in pristine condition of you have to pay a fine.

I was going to be one of those 20%. I’ve worked full time with many medical conditions for over 30 years never claiming anything. Only when I got terminal cancer was I awarded the mobility rate of pip which if i had taken the car would have put me in that 20%. Point being you’ve no idea what is wrong with those 20%

You also have to provide supporting evidence from GP, Consultants etc

I saw an article recently saying that France and Norway are looking at ways to cut their benefits bill, as theirs are also unsustainable.

Ok, leased rather than bought. But you are missing my point.

What a tedious OP

What’s your point? I’m not sure how you can compare cars that are leased and handed back with housing stock that was sold off.

I agree with the cuts. The system as it is is unsustainable. The trouble is they never go after waste at the top. They also won't cut taxes after these cuts they'll simply fund more bullshit which will put even more tax payers money into the hands of the rich. Ukraine war for example - biggest money laundering operation in history.

No they were just put in to asylums as kids! Are you implying that conditions such as ADHD are made up...? You are aren't you... 🙄🤦‍♀️

Are you confusing help to buy with right to buy?

Marking their own homework!!

Labour will be taxing everyone to hilt, to raise funds to fix the infrastructure issues the UK has. Lower and middle earners should pay more tax, everyone’s contribution needs to be more sizeable. I am not sad to see cuts to benefits, if education and health services are broken, benefits are a sticking plaster over more serious issues. I would be interested to see free childcare for all earners introduced, since that for me is a benefit with a growth mindset, rather than handouts that aren’t aimed at getting or keeping people working.

Sorry my bad. I entirely agree with help to buy being a bit of a swizz

You still can’t compare cars that are leases unless you think it’s ok for people to be trapped in their homes unable to access society