PIP for ADHD

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Been in the news this morning as labour looking to slash benefits bills the cost is enormous and growing.

One of the main points discussed was getting PIP for ADHD I did not think this was possible …🤔.

We are taxed more than ever so cuts will abve to be made but surely this is madness giving out PIP for ADHD …there are genuine claims but… they said there are a 1000 new people per day now claiming PIP…so those on the make are going to spoil or for genuine a claims but something is very wrong 😦with the benefits system.

The numbers we are spending on benefits are incredible …let’s see what they slash but cuts are coming under Labour as it’s got out of hand.

Again, look at how Motability actually works…..

the MOBILITY element of a PIP claim is used to pay for the vehicle (and frequently IN ADDITION the claimant makes a substantial down payment and pays a top up for the monthly lease price)

The MOBILITY ELEMENT that is used to pay towards the lease would be PAID OUT TO THE CLAIMANT even if they DIDNT lease a mobility car. It would be spent in taxis etc to support the claimant to travel (often times TO WORK) So, what are you actually asking for here?

That people with disabilities who qualify for the mobility element of PIP have it taken from them? Have you considered the implications of that?

Highly unlikely somehow.
Look up the motability scheme.

Lets hope that they will have the resources for the NHS, and mental health facilities in order, for the fallout of all of this, if they are too draconian.

So is the prison bill!!

I get PIP and a few years ago my Motability car was a BMW. We paid almost £5k as an advanced payment for that, including the adaptations that I needed. I get PIP for physical disabilities. For my recent renewal I had to send in 499 pieces of medical evidence. It’s not easy to get.

Im so sick of people this weekend. The Fail and the Torygraph have both had huge articles on the “scam” that Motability is. Thousands of people on X have been having a go, including politicians and candidates from the Tories and Reform. Apparently the disabled are the cause of all the ills in this country and it’s all our fault the country has gone to hell in a handcart.

Just leave us alone fgs. Go after the ones who don’t want to pay their taxes, or those who scammed the country out of billions during COVID. Stop picking on the sick, disabled and vulnerable.

Exactly!! What’s she trying to say PRECISELY??

I’m not deflecting anything. At all. In the slightest.

if you can come up with a scheme that supports disabled people to be able to leave their homes and be a part of society and live as independently as possible that DOES NOT involve the exchange of goods and services for cash, I’m all ears.

Agree with this. I'm fully in favour of people who need help getting help.

The main issue is the sheer volume of claims, and the difficulty of separating out the genuine from people who are exaggerating.

A GP or any other professional has no idea how a patient might function in day to day life, most of the evidence is generated on the basis of what people say. Which may be honest, or exaggerated.

Every time people ask the hard questions, they get piled on. Nobody is saying any claimant on this thread is a liar.

But clearly, something is broken.

No, it’s people like you two who are naive. Read a headline, take it as gospel, come on here and upset people that are struggling without doing any research whatsoever.

That’s the motorbility scheme for people who qualify for the mobility element. It’s to help them get around if they struggle with walking or using public transport. A lot will use the vehicle to get to work.

I work as a benefits advisor. I feel the same as you. Some of the decisions are madness. I have had one client this week who is on a Lung transplant waiting list, can barely breathe and been turned down yet a facebook friend is posting her 21 year old son's new motorbility car all over facebook. This lad works full time, gets himself to his job etc, no physical mobility issues so must have been awarded based on his autism. makes no sense sometimes.

Every time people ask the hard questions, they get piled on. Nobody is saying any claimant on this thread is a liar.

Because a lot of posters are used to seeing these questions being posed. The majority of the time, the author of the thread shows themselves to be in contempt of the people claiming, under the guise of something else. It is transparent.

Point missed again. Do you work for motability? And another good attempt at deflection.

You do realise that there are more options than just motability in its current corrupt form and no version of motability at all?

You work as a benefits advisor and yet you only believe that physical mobility issues are the only reason you can qualify for mobility?

Thank you …a voice of sense . Happens every time anyone asks they get piled on it’s the modis operandus on here unfortunately!

No of course not but I know this lad and cannot see any reason for him to be awarded enhanced mobility. A lot are stretching the truth . The whole system needs looking at.

I feel you’re being deliberately obtuse.

Are you suggesting that all disabled people must only use public transport? Note to self Must look up the profits of public transport fat cats - maybe they are all CICs and I absurdly believed they’d are companies trading for profit.

That's the point though, that MANY others have made. A diagnosis does NOT simply equal PIP payment. You have no idea

Absolutely true - I recently supported someone with ADHD at the very severe end of the spectrum and the claim was refused.

As people have said PIP has criteria which are based on care, communication and mobility needs rather than conditions. Whether these criteria are right I dont know. Whether the whole concept of PIP is right I also don't know.

But with adhd, if someone said 'I was born with an under developed prefrontal cortex and amygdala and my dopamine receptions are faulty', this means I have poor impulse contror or whatever impacts adhd has, would people be more sympathetic to it as a condition than just the current name.

Public transport won't be an option until the UK has a public transport system that works for everyone, not just for people in large cities. Where I am, all buses stop at around 5.30. So if your working hours fall outside that, you're not going to get home. There's nothing for shift workers. And I'm not even in the sticks of rural nowhere, I'm in a small market town in Suffolk! And thanks to the Beeching reforms way back when, we have no trains either.

Yes, it was 8m from first phone call to being awarded. Had meetings with DWP etc and had to share the extensive diagnostic reports as well as have social workers, school staff and GPs offer their evidence.

I couldn’t agree more - however, public transport is frequently not an option for various disabilities even if our public transport had a far better infrastructure.

i used to work as a PA for someone who was wheelchair bound. Even with a Motability vehicle so more options for where to park etc, getting out and about was tricky - our pavements are for the most part in an appalling state and very wheelchair unfriendly.

Thankfully it’s based on need and not diagnosis. Most people that have ADHD won’t qualify for PIP.

Despite the ignorance and shight posted on here, it really isn’t easy to get PIP. The only thing they could crack down on is evidence and not just take peoples word for what they can’t do.

Very scary what's going on. I understand as a tax payer thinking wtf.

The truth is, ADHD is highly comorbid with Autism. Then you are at significantly higher risk of all sorts. But people can't access an assessment easily. I read an article this week where somewhere in Scotland ( can't recall where) has just cancelled every person on a wait list for Autism assessment. Goodbye, see you, nothing.

A diagnosis will support any PIP application. I don't care what anyone says on that. You've got a better chance with a diagnosis. But you can't access an assessment.

Some people will be so severely affected by multiple co morbids, will have a doctor who isn't the expert trying their best and telling them it's depression. But actually, they're potentially dealing with so much more.

Maybe PIP would help these people access an assessment? And then a visit to a psychiatrist, which would have to be private now, that nhs wait would be years you see. And maybe that psychiatrist would prescribe appropriate medication for the real problem and they can have a life and participate in society again.