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How can I tell ds he can't come on holiday.

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Youagain2025 · 14/03/2025 09:12

I'm not 100% it will happen. But im trying to sort out a holiday for me my 3 youngest and adult ds. I want adult ds to come so that I have some company.

The reason I don't want my other ds to come is he's hard work he really drains me and in all honesty I Need a break . This would be my first holiday since I was around 15 years old. Also ds has been on holiday with his sister. He's going again in may . Then again next year .

He's coming up 18 . He is able to pay for himself. But that's not what it's about . Obviously I can't tell him that he's hard work etc.

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LivelyHare · 14/03/2025 13:47

Why oh why did you have six children!?

MsBucket · 14/03/2025 13:48

brokenwand · 14/03/2025 12:28

terrible - so you've basically picked your favourite child to take on holiday & keep you company. Have you no friends to go with?

@brokenwand OP has already said that she doesn’t have any friends. Unfortunately it seems that she’s the primary caregiver and clearly needs respite care. OP did not share all relevant info in the original post so I am assuming a lot of people have missed key information.

MsBucket · 14/03/2025 13:49

LivelyHare · 14/03/2025 13:47

Why oh why did you have six children!?

@LivelyHare That’s not particularly helpful is it? OP not only has 6 children, she also has grandchildren.

Youagain2025 · 14/03/2025 13:59

Linens · 14/03/2025 13:29

Absolute mob mentality. Some of you should be ashamed of yourselves (except you won’t will you, because this is what you enjoy doing and come to Mumsnet specifically to do).

Have a lovely holiday @Youagain2025
Apply for your passports, get it booked so you know it’s happening and then bright breezy firm and factual. Younger kids needs a holiday, you need a hand taking them and that’s all there is to it. No, he’s not coming this time, he’s had two holidays.

I will order passports . I need one for ID anyway. Not sure about going away i will have a think.

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Dontlletmedownbruce · 14/03/2025 14:14

LivelyHare · 14/03/2025 13:47

Why oh why did you have six children!?

Ffs what a stupid comment and utterly unhelpful to the thread.

Maybe she is a brilliant mother who has done remarkably well and has produced 5 well balanced happy children who will contribute to society. She is unlucky enough to have one with high needs, if she had that one child only, she would still be in the same pickle.

crushedbandicoot · 14/03/2025 14:17

Youagain2025 · 14/03/2025 09:26

I am his carer. Its been hard and I mean really hard . He's much better than he was. I have another child with special needs as well. And honestly Need a break.

People seem to be missing the part that he's been abroad already . Plus will be going again in may plus again next year that's 3 times .

Stop drip feeding, it’s so annoying.

KateMiskin · 14/03/2025 14:18

Dontlletmedownbruce · 14/03/2025 14:14

Ffs what a stupid comment and utterly unhelpful to the thread.

Maybe she is a brilliant mother who has done remarkably well and has produced 5 well balanced happy children who will contribute to society. She is unlucky enough to have one with high needs, if she had that one child only, she would still be in the same pickle.

You haven't read the thread at all.

OP, I have changed my.mind. Do as you originally planned and leave DS behind.It's not ideal but you clearly need a break or you wlll break down.

Owl55 · 14/03/2025 14:20

This mum who is a carer to 2 children with additional needs and other children too is almost at breaking point and would benefit from leaving the nearly 18 year old at home with a responsible adult. You perfect parents who have prob never been under extreme pressure trying to deal with the demands of being a carer to a disregulated adolescent can never understand how difficult that is ! Please have a well deserved holiday with your other children and don’t let anyone make you feel you deserve less . Have a lovely holiday x

Youagain2025 · 14/03/2025 14:23

crushedbandicoot · 14/03/2025 14:17

Stop drip feeding, it’s so annoying.

When i posted the op i did not realise how much more I would have to add. I have answered things best i can . If it was that easy just to get everything on an op. Then all threads would literally have just 1 post from the op. Sometimes situations are not easy to explain in one go .

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crushedbandicoot · 14/03/2025 14:29

Youagain2025 · 14/03/2025 14:23

When i posted the op i did not realise how much more I would have to add. I have answered things best i can . If it was that easy just to get everything on an op. Then all threads would literally have just 1 post from the op. Sometimes situations are not easy to explain in one go .

Ok. You would probably have more people agreeing with you to go on the holiday if you had included everything, is what I am saying.

TomatoSandwiches · 14/03/2025 14:34

Can you take just the DD14 away? Could your older son and DD look after the others together in your home?
It's easier to rationalise only one sibling going away to your 17yr old, perhaps suggest her doctor has said she needs a holiday and 1-1 time with you, then it's not so polarising for him to be the only one left behind.

Youagain2025 · 14/03/2025 14:37

TomatoSandwiches · 14/03/2025 14:34

Can you take just the DD14 away? Could your older son and DD look after the others together in your home?
It's easier to rationalise only one sibling going away to your 17yr old, perhaps suggest her doctor has said she needs a holiday and 1-1 time with you, then it's not so polarising for him to be the only one left behind.

No that would be to much for adult dd to manage.

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ruethewhirl · 14/03/2025 14:48

crushedbandicoot · 14/03/2025 14:29

Ok. You would probably have more people agreeing with you to go on the holiday if you had included everything, is what I am saying.

But if OP had posted the information all in one go people would have been sniping 'I didn't make it to the end of your very long post, OP', etc etc, and would probably have missed relevant information because they didn't read the whole post. Sometimes people really can't win on here when there is a lot of relevant information to impart.

crushedbandicoot · 14/03/2025 14:54

ruethewhirl · 14/03/2025 14:48

But if OP had posted the information all in one go people would have been sniping 'I didn't make it to the end of your very long post, OP', etc etc, and would probably have missed relevant information because they didn't read the whole post. Sometimes people really can't win on here when there is a lot of relevant information to impart.

Yes, probably. 😂

TomatoSandwiches · 14/03/2025 15:18

Youagain2025 · 14/03/2025 14:37

No that would be to much for adult dd to manage.

But what if your adult DS helped out as well, so your eldest two taking on the younger children together?

Youagain2025 · 14/03/2025 15:51

TomatoSandwiches · 14/03/2025 15:18

But what if your adult DS helped out as well, so your eldest two taking on the younger children together?

Adult ds won't do that. He would book time of for a holiday but not to help dd,ds with all the kids . He has a really stressful job and the combination of them altogether is a bit much .

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FluffyDashhound · 14/03/2025 16:13

Don't take adult dc and just take younger ones. As you can then say anyone over 16 has their own holidays

Youagain2025 · 14/03/2025 16:25

FluffyDashhound · 14/03/2025 16:13

Don't take adult dc and just take younger ones. As you can then say anyone over 16 has their own holidays

Adult ds will be coming if I go because ds 9 has autism and if he's overwhelmed by stuff he may find them to hard to do which would = ds 8 not doing stuff . If adult ds cones that means ds9 can be looked after when needed and ds 8 doesn't miss out on stuff he wants to do .

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TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 14/03/2025 16:28

Youagain2025 · 14/03/2025 16:25

Adult ds will be coming if I go because ds 9 has autism and if he's overwhelmed by stuff he may find them to hard to do which would = ds 8 not doing stuff . If adult ds cones that means ds9 can be looked after when needed and ds 8 doesn't miss out on stuff he wants to do .

It's okay. Don't bother explaining again. A lot of people simply want to argue - but some of us do understand your difficulties @Youagain2025

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Youagain2025 · 14/03/2025 17:13

TheBroonOneAndTheWhiteOne · 14/03/2025 16:28

It's okay. Don't bother explaining again. A lot of people simply want to argue - but some of us do understand your difficulties @Youagain2025

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Thank you 💐

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Jimmyneutronsforehead · 14/03/2025 17:51

Youagain2025 · 14/03/2025 12:18

I don't have friends. But I just didn't think it would be that complicated to take the 3 youngest and adult ds to come. considering ds17 had already bedn away and also going twice more . Alot of people are taking about ds and how he will feel I get that hence I feel guilty as fuck. But there seems to be little thought for dd 14 who's also been through alot.

It isn't that complicated.

"DS you've got 2 holidays this year with DD, you're almost an adult, so I'm taking the other kids on a holiday so they don't feel left out."

Youagain2025 · 14/03/2025 17:57

Jimmyneutronsforehead · 14/03/2025 17:51

It isn't that complicated.

"DS you've got 2 holidays this year with DD, you're almost an adult, so I'm taking the other kids on a holiday so they don't feel left out."

I guess so . It just felt complicated. I guess it's not really

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MsBucket · 14/03/2025 18:02

@Youagain2025 It’s quite clear that you need a break. It’s not clear how your son has managed to go on 50 holidays and why you weren’t able to accompany him. He needs to understand that you need a break as well and that he’s gone on plenty of holidays. But to make everyone feel included, there can be family outings and events so that the holiday is not seen as an exclusionary activity especially seeing as your son has special needs. He might just see it as not going on a holiday with you so he needs to be able to understand why he’s not going and why it’s important for you to get a break.

Youagain2025 · 14/03/2025 18:14

MsBucket · 14/03/2025 18:02

@Youagain2025 It’s quite clear that you need a break. It’s not clear how your son has managed to go on 50 holidays and why you weren’t able to accompany him. He needs to understand that you need a break as well and that he’s gone on plenty of holidays. But to make everyone feel included, there can be family outings and events so that the holiday is not seen as an exclusionary activity especially seeing as your son has special needs. He might just see it as not going on a holiday with you so he needs to be able to understand why he’s not going and why it’s important for you to get a break.

He's not been in 50 holidays. If i put that somewhere it would have been a mistake. He's been on 1 holiday so far he's going on another in may. Then another next year. Its very hard to explain how ds is . We would definitely do days out etc . To be honest he does quite a bit when dd gos out for family days he tags along to . And when I go out he comes to. And we also go out as a whole group as well. So he sort of does double what the others do.

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crushedbandicoot · 14/03/2025 18:32

It does sound like you can trust your dd to take good care of him, and include him in some fun parties etc.

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