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If you could solve one unsolved mystery

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shessocool · 02/03/2025 00:02

Which one would it be? Missing persons, unsolved murders or even random unexplained events.

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TwoRobins · 04/03/2025 16:52

Needspaceforlego · 04/03/2025 16:29

Peter Tobin DAILY EXPRESS Peter Tobin has been linked to her.

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Oh, really? Thank you, I'll have a look.

Stirabout · 04/03/2025 16:52

My dh would like to know why the shooter missed Trump

CerealPosterHere · 04/03/2025 17:17

FKAT · 04/03/2025 15:32

This one hasn't been mentioned and will never be solved but the reason for the Moorgate tube crash https://www.thetimes.com/uk/london/article/moorgate-tube-disaster-50-years-75kl020fh

Never heard of this before. Awful. Maybe suicide or some sort of absence seizure. The latter seems unlikely but then suicide by someone who was planning on buying a car, etc also seems unlikely.

Whattheduck · 04/03/2025 17:28

SiobhanSharpe · 02/03/2025 13:42

The origins and what had happened to the young boy the police named Adam. He was found dead in the Thames in the 80s, AFAICR.
He was from West Africa and there were no official records about him.

There’s a good podcast called True Criminals that covers this case very sad

Verv · 04/03/2025 17:50

CalicoPusscat · 02/03/2025 04:24

Oslo Plaza woman

This is an interesting read.
www.watchesofespionage.com/blogs/woe-dispatch/a-mystery-death-in-oslo-an-intelligence-op-gone-wrong

FKAT · 04/03/2025 19:25

Thanks for the Answers for Claudia podcast recommendation upthread. I'm 6 episodes in and her dad has so many red flags. Not saying he had anything to do with the murder but he made some odd decisions that hindered the investigation.

Also people keep repeating the 'complex love life' and dozens of married lovers thing as fact but there doesn't seem much evidence to support it and it's exactly the kind of red herring that a guilty party would produce and promote.

Zenana · 04/03/2025 19:32

FKAT · 04/03/2025 19:25

Thanks for the Answers for Claudia podcast recommendation upthread. I'm 6 episodes in and her dad has so many red flags. Not saying he had anything to do with the murder but he made some odd decisions that hindered the investigation.

Also people keep repeating the 'complex love life' and dozens of married lovers thing as fact but there doesn't seem much evidence to support it and it's exactly the kind of red herring that a guilty party would produce and promote.

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Claudia must have had friends who knew something about her relationships. I wish someone would step up and refute these allegations.

CrushingOnRubies · 04/03/2025 19:58

Princes in the Tower
Jack the Ripper
Lord Lucan
Madeleine McCaan

CatCaretaker · 04/03/2025 20:38

I haven't read the full thread, maybe someone said it, but Sophie Toscan du Plantier.

Pollyanna87 · 04/03/2025 20:51

Anthonette Cayedito (I’m convinced her mother knew what happened to her)

Andrew Gosden

Asha Degree

Maddie

Pollyanna87 · 04/03/2025 20:54

Whattheduck · 04/03/2025 17:28

There’s a good podcast called True Criminals that covers this case very sad

The Dark Histories podcast has an excellent episode on this, too. Horrific and savage.

Pancakeflipper · 04/03/2025 20:54

Andrew Gosden.

And
Claudia Lawrence

PlumpHobbit · 04/03/2025 21:18

Flight MH370
Maddie

Anothenamechange · 04/03/2025 22:10

SiobhanSharpe · 02/03/2025 13:42

The origins and what had happened to the young boy the police named Adam. He was found dead in the Thames in the 80s, AFAICR.
He was from West Africa and there were no official records about him.

I still think about that little lad sometimes. It's a very wicked world.

sammylady37 · 04/03/2025 22:55

CarrieMoonbeams · 04/03/2025 12:56

TW - photo of body in link

Has anyone mentioned the "Peter Bergmann" case? He was of probably German/Austrian descent, and well presented when he checked into a hotel in Co Sligo under that assumed name with a false address.

Over the following days he disposed of "stuff" from a plastic bag (assumed to be his extra clothing, but he avoided the CCTV cameras) and subsequently was found washed up on a local beach a few days later. He's never been identified. The post mortem showed that he was in very poor health anyway yet despite the fact that he must have had extensive medical records somewhere AND he had some pretty expensive dental work, his identity is still unknown.

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This Is perhaps a stupid question but in relation to your last point, re dental records, I’ve often wondered how they can be definitive. Like, I’ve had maybe 10 or 12 dental practices over my lifetime. If I was found dead and in such a state that I was only identifiable by dental records, how would the authorities know which practice to check with? I’d imagine that in a big city there must be lots of practices someone could be with. Even with NHS records, someone might not be using an NHS dentist. I get that if they are pretty sure the body is me, and my family say ‘oh she always went to practice x, in fact she was there last week’ then it’s straightforward, but that won’t always be the way. In the case above of that man in Sligo, how could they possibly begin to start looking for his dentist? I find this fascinating!

CarrieMoonbeams · 05/03/2025 01:05

I think, @sammylady37 , that in cases like this one, dental records would normally be used to confirm the identity of someone from a shortlist of names. So from a list of missing people in the whole of Germany, for example, narrowing it down to people of the right sex, age group, height, skin colour, medical issues etc etc.would maybe take it down to 10 possible people (I have no idea on the numbers!) I'm guessing that the police would then speak to the families of those 10 people to find out which dentist they used and go from there. That's my theory anyway!

In the case of Peter Bergmann in particular though, he had he had such distinctive dental work that I'm a bit surprised that a dentist who'd treated him in the past wouldn't have recognised him from media appeals! Strange.

MrsKeats · 05/03/2025 10:27

Who really shot JFK

AnAlpacaForChristmasPleaseSanta · 05/03/2025 12:09

@MrsKeats The last theroy I heard was the fatal shot was accidentally fired by one of his security guards in all the kerfuffle and the government covered it up. Certainly sounds plausible.

Needspaceforlego · 05/03/2025 12:54

TwoRobins · 04/03/2025 16:52

Oh, really? Thank you, I'll have a look.

Actually thinking about this and spinning it round.
It would have been good if he'd spilled the beans on his other killings. So maybe that should be my "mystery I'd like solved"
How many and who did Peter Tobin kill.

SiobhanSharpe · 05/03/2025 15:32

AuxArmesCitoyens · 02/03/2025 16:27

The Al-Hilli Annecy shootings. Can't make head nor tail of it.

Family feud over business and a contract killer?
(edits typo)

oakleaffy · 05/03/2025 15:39

Ben Needham,
Maddie and also Jonathan Spollen.

SiobhanSharpe · 05/03/2025 15:40

Pootle40 · 02/03/2025 16:14

Is it a mystery?

I didn’t think so — the police are not saying for now but it looked like they think these poor women committed suicide.
(I don’t know whether the coroner, or Scottish equivalent, has ruled on it yet.)

Needspaceforlego · 05/03/2025 16:52

SiobhanSharpe · 05/03/2025 15:40

I didn’t think so — the police are not saying for now but it looked like they think these poor women committed suicide.
(I don’t know whether the coroner, or Scottish equivalent, has ruled on it yet.)

I think they'd concluded suicide too. They had visited the bridge before. And they'd done some other things that made the police think they'd planned it.

MeowCatPleaseMeowBack · 06/03/2025 12:29

sammylady37 · 04/03/2025 22:55

This Is perhaps a stupid question but in relation to your last point, re dental records, I’ve often wondered how they can be definitive. Like, I’ve had maybe 10 or 12 dental practices over my lifetime. If I was found dead and in such a state that I was only identifiable by dental records, how would the authorities know which practice to check with? I’d imagine that in a big city there must be lots of practices someone could be with. Even with NHS records, someone might not be using an NHS dentist. I get that if they are pretty sure the body is me, and my family say ‘oh she always went to practice x, in fact she was there last week’ then it’s straightforward, but that won’t always be the way. In the case above of that man in Sligo, how could they possibly begin to start looking for his dentist? I find this fascinating!

I'm aware of a few older cases where pictures of the victim's distinctive dental work or distinctive teeth were published in dentistry journals as a general 'do you recognise these teeth?' kind of thing.

WillWorkForShoes · 06/03/2025 13:57

Janet Murgatroyd.

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