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I am a narcissist

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ohyesido · 23/02/2025 16:04

I am. But I'm not a horrible person.

I lack empathy but I've learned that it isn't nice to manipulate people.

Yet I still do, only in such a way that no one can ever really accuse me of it. Because I twist my words to indicate that I have everyone's best interests at heart.

Everything I do is calculated to ensure I get my own way while maintaining a facade of good intentions

Can anyone relate?

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ohyesido · 23/02/2025 19:22

I think the description of a narcissist has been gradually changed over the years to suit certain types of people and their narrative.

Funny how many ex partners become narcissists when described by the person they dumped, for example.

Same as many people claim to have been gaslighted, when what they mean is someone fibbed or got something wrong

I doubt many people would actually understand what a narcissist is. Perhaps I don't.

But I'm not bitchy, which makes me feel good about myself

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MrsPinkSky · 23/02/2025 19:22

ohyesido · 23/02/2025 18:44

@MrsPinkSky why? We have a very pleasant comfortable lifestyle, I have no reason to complain

Sorry, I meant the relationship with your son that you mentioned being problematic.

My ex husband had very similar mental health issues to yours and life wasn't easy for him as a result.

Frostynoman · 23/02/2025 19:23

Out of complete curiosity, do you think having these traits and skills have got you further ahead in life compared to someone who doesn’t have NPD?

Trolllol · 23/02/2025 19:25

Oooph love bombing mumsnet and they don’t even realise

RedHelenB · 23/02/2025 19:25

ohyesido · 23/02/2025 16:37

That's good, it means that no one can use that against me I guess. They could probably try but it doesn't affect me if they do because I'm more articulate than them and leave them feeling uncomfortable

You don't come across as more articulate, I think you view yourself differently to how others view you

ohyesido · 23/02/2025 19:25

@Frostynoman I wouldn't know. I've done well for myself despite the whispers of those PPs who want to try and put me down. I love my job and I'm a fairly senior level, that's all my own graft. I started out as a temp in a contact centre

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Apennyforapound · 23/02/2025 19:26

ohyesido · 23/02/2025 18:49

@Apennyforapound why do I need to gain anything? It's a post in Chat, it's not that deep.

And yea I like myself, it's only recently that I had a realisation that perhaps I am a narcissist and I'm exploring it

Exactly a post in a chat, with a load of strangers who don't know you, yet you seem to want them to diagnose you as a narcissistic.You then get irritated when they don't think you are.
There are plenty of books regarding NPD traits, written by experts in the field. A load of randoms on MN aren't going to help you explore it as well.
😂Thanks op.

ohyesido · 23/02/2025 19:27

@Apennyforapound you must be imagining that part where I asked for a diagnosis. But you're welcome

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SassK · 23/02/2025 19:28

ohyesido · 23/02/2025 19:25

@Frostynoman I wouldn't know. I've done well for myself despite the whispers of those PPs who want to try and put me down. I love my job and I'm a fairly senior level, that's all my own graft. I started out as a temp in a contact centre

You've posted previously about your emotions, about losing your friend. None of your previous posts are akin to this thread, so what has happened to you? Do you feel physically unwell in any way?

WickWood · 23/02/2025 19:28

Dollydaydream100 · 23/02/2025 19:09

They don't actually. They want to but don't all have the intellect or hard working ethic to actually do it. The one I knew really wanted desperately to be rich and successful but he couldn't quite manage it as his lies and the fact he didn't actually know how to run a business successfully kept in getting in his way. He's on his third attempt at a similar business now after the first two folded.
He tried to project an image of being successful and a billy big balls to people but the truth was he didn't have a pot to piss in and his wife funded everything and was the higher earner (which he was massively resentful about and one of the reasons he constantly cheated on her).

Yeah, not all the time obviously, but usually, at least the diagnosed ones I've met through work (in psychology) x

Apennyforapound · 23/02/2025 19:28

ohyesido · 23/02/2025 19:27

@Apennyforapound you must be imagining that part where I asked for a diagnosis. But you're welcome

Hypothetical. And no problem 😀

Brinkley22 · 23/02/2025 19:28

ohyesido · 23/02/2025 16:04

I am. But I'm not a horrible person.

I lack empathy but I've learned that it isn't nice to manipulate people.

Yet I still do, only in such a way that no one can ever really accuse me of it. Because I twist my words to indicate that I have everyone's best interests at heart.

Everything I do is calculated to ensure I get my own way while maintaining a facade of good intentions

Can anyone relate?

This is interesting. Do you have a sense of what feeling you are avoiding - or seeking? Does it feel good to be in control for instance? I’d love to understand a bit more

ohyesido · 23/02/2025 19:29

@SassK you keep saying stuff to me despite me ignoring you because you are rude and passive aggressive. Why are you carrying on?

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Henbags · 23/02/2025 19:29

Define “special”. You say it a lot, not sure what that means.

Also, why do you only do “nice” things for people because otherwise it’ll have some sort of impact on you? Do you mean people’s interpretations of you and you worry they’ll think less of you?

AccountCreateUsername · 23/02/2025 19:30

SassK · 23/02/2025 18:14

I suspect he's posting for the humiliation. The new process for posting pics etc equals finding other ways of getting sick kicks.

I suspected a humiliation kink too…

ohyesido · 23/02/2025 19:30

No @Henbags . I do it for me so I can inflate my self image

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back2lifeback2reality · 23/02/2025 19:31

Hoppinggreen · 23/02/2025 19:19

Its not a choice, its a default
People like OP (and me) have to deliberately NOT manipulate, its like breathing

People who haven't known someone with a personality disorder don't get that it's wired in, like schizophrenia. It is who you are and you didn't choose it. That's why they react strongly in the comments because they think the OP is just being difficult. They don’t realise that insults dont hit like they would with a normally wired person, so they keep it up thinking it'll do something. Having known someone with NPD/BPD who I never want to speak to ever again because they are the most disturbing person I've ever met I also know that insults won't change them

WickWood · 23/02/2025 19:33

ohyesido · 23/02/2025 19:22

I think the description of a narcissist has been gradually changed over the years to suit certain types of people and their narrative.

Funny how many ex partners become narcissists when described by the person they dumped, for example.

Same as many people claim to have been gaslighted, when what they mean is someone fibbed or got something wrong

I doubt many people would actually understand what a narcissist is. Perhaps I don't.

But I'm not bitchy, which makes me feel good about myself

I do agree with some of this!

SassK · 23/02/2025 19:33

ohyesido · 23/02/2025 19:29

@SassK you keep saying stuff to me despite me ignoring you because you are rude and passive aggressive. Why are you carrying on?

Because you've described feeling extreme emotion in previous posts.

Trolllol · 23/02/2025 19:34

back2lifeback2reality · 23/02/2025 19:31

People who haven't known someone with a personality disorder don't get that it's wired in, like schizophrenia. It is who you are and you didn't choose it. That's why they react strongly in the comments because they think the OP is just being difficult. They don’t realise that insults dont hit like they would with a normally wired person, so they keep it up thinking it'll do something. Having known someone with NPD/BPD who I never want to speak to ever again because they are the most disturbing person I've ever met I also know that insults won't change them

You aren’t wrong, doesn’t matter what you say it just doesn’t impact, “go in”, zero nothing. It’s like ground hog day you can go again and again.

TwinklyOrca · 23/02/2025 19:34

Special and a debt collector 😂 you literally have one of the worst jobs on the planet. I would rather clean toilets without gloves, than be a debt collector.

ohyesido · 23/02/2025 19:35

@SassK so? I miss my friend. She should still be here.

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HolyPeaches · 23/02/2025 19:35

ohyesido · 23/02/2025 19:22

I think the description of a narcissist has been gradually changed over the years to suit certain types of people and their narrative.

Funny how many ex partners become narcissists when described by the person they dumped, for example.

Same as many people claim to have been gaslighted, when what they mean is someone fibbed or got something wrong

I doubt many people would actually understand what a narcissist is. Perhaps I don't.

But I'm not bitchy, which makes me feel good about myself

You’re not coming across as any better than the “bitchy” posters on here.

This isn’t the flex you think it is 😂

Hoppinggreen · 23/02/2025 19:35

I agree, I didn't choose this and at least I am self aware and so don't go around harming people (unless they cross me).
Would I love to feel what other people feel? probably but from watching other people get upset over stuff it does seem a bit inconvenient.
I try to be a better person and I have trained myself to a certain extent but I know what I am, I am not proud of it but not ashamed either
I consider it a type of ND

ohyesido · 23/02/2025 19:36

@TwinklyOrca to each their own. The criminal justice system exists. And i'm not a debt collector

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