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Continuation of AR housing thread

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TheNuthatch · 22/02/2025 13:22

Continuation of the Angela from housing thread. For those who want to moan about the government and share thoughts and articles.

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twistyizzy · 22/03/2025 09:02

They are utterly delusional, what successes? This is part of the problem, deaf and blind to criticism and the damage they are causing left, right + centre. I can't seriously think of a single 'success', unless you are a train driver!!

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2025/mar/22/we-want-everybody-to-hear-it-labour-to-use-spring-statement-to-showcase-early-successes

EasternStandard · 22/03/2025 09:45

You can tell when the press just regurgitate comms from the gov.

Then you get the scathing pieces when journalists go outside that.

TheNuthatch · 22/03/2025 10:02

Thanks for the link twisty.
I don't even recognise the 'successes' listed in that article. Workers right and NMW when put together with the jobs tax is damaging business, therefore damaging the economy. Hence the upcoming cuts. The reduction in NHS wait times has been paid for with massive borrowing that we could not afford. Hence even more cuts.

It's the current government who need to be 're-educated', not the public. How insulting after everything they have done.

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Parsley1234 · 22/03/2025 11:20

Can’t wait to see making of a chancellor on Monday

twistyizzy · 22/03/2025 11:34

We just need them all gone! Can't believe got another 4 years of complete incompetence ahead.

GrizzlyHairBear · 22/03/2025 20:59

twistyizzy · 22/03/2025 11:34

We just need them all gone! Can't believe got another 4 years of complete incompetence ahead.

Well there were fourteen before Labour got in including the enormous sh1tshow that was Brexit so you should be used to coping with incompetent governments.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 22/03/2025 21:04

GrizzlyHairBear · 22/03/2025 20:59

Well there were fourteen before Labour got in including the enormous sh1tshow that was Brexit so you should be used to coping with incompetent governments.

Is the current one incompetent, GrizzlyHairBear?

twistyizzy · 22/03/2025 21:06

GrizzlyHairBear · 22/03/2025 20:59

Well there were fourteen before Labour got in including the enormous sh1tshow that was Brexit so you should be used to coping with incompetent governments.

But but but Labour was meant to save us?

GrizzlyHairBear · 22/03/2025 21:17

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 22/03/2025 21:04

Is the current one incompetent, GrizzlyHairBear?

Yes absolutely but hardly a new thing.

GrizzlyHairBear · 22/03/2025 21:18

twistyizzy · 22/03/2025 21:06

But but but Labour was meant to save us?

Were you truly gullible enough to believe that?

twistyizzy · 22/03/2025 21:26

GrizzlyHairBear · 22/03/2025 21:18

Were you truly gullible enough to believe that?

You can't recognise sarcasm? Thankfully I didn't vote Labour

twistyizzy · 22/03/2025 21:26

GrizzlyHairBear · 22/03/2025 21:18

Were you truly gullible enough to believe that?

You can't recognise sarcasm? Thankfully I didn't vote Labour

GrizzlyHairBear · 22/03/2025 21:50

twistyizzy · 22/03/2025 21:26

You can't recognise sarcasm? Thankfully I didn't vote Labour

‘We just need them all gone’ was what I initially commented on. You know you are stuck with them for a long four years so it is what it is.

Upstartled · 23/03/2025 07:39

Reeves is going to cut £2bn from the civil service on Wednesday in the 'it's not austerity' and it's 'not a statement' announcement that looks remarkably like an austerity budget.

twistyizzy · 23/03/2025 07:41

A lot of commentary in papers saying that the disability cuts are Labour's Poll Tax

Upstartled · 23/03/2025 07:45

I don't think it has the kind of push back that we saw with the poll tax. If the MN collective is anything to go by then people seem quite happy for them to put through these cuts.

twistyizzy · 23/03/2025 08:00

Here are the main takeaways from today's ONS update on the public finances (it's bad news, reflecting weak growth, meaning that rather than fill a “£22 billion black hole” all Labour has done so far is help create another one, of similar size!):
1⃣ Public sector borrowing in the financial year to February 2025 was £132.2 billion, or £20.4 billion more than forecast by the OBR last October.
2⃣ The 'current budget deficit' (the targeted measure) was £70.6 billion in the FY to February, £15.6 billion more than forecast by the OBR.
3⃣ So about 3/4 of the overshoot is on the current budget, mainly driven by lower-than-expected tax receipts and higher debt interest payments (spending on pay and benefits was broadly in line with the higher forecasts made in October)
4⃣ The rest of the overshoot reflected higher public sector net investment, which increased to £61.6 billion (£10 billion more than in the same 11-month period last year)
5⃣ The overall deficit for the full year will probably come in around £145-£150 billion, compared to the OBR's forecast of £127.5 billion. If at the upper end of the range that could be a new 'black hole' of - wait for it - '£22 billion'...
6⃣ Today's figures won't have any impact on next week's Spring Statement / 'emergency Budget', but they do provide even more evidence of the 'doom loop' emerging in the public finances

EasternStandard · 23/03/2025 08:01

Yes still a fair few airing Labour lines on mn. If the by-election goes to Reform it’ll be interesting to see what Starmer and co do.

They keep throwing out Reform type headlines but they’re not going to wash with those voters.

@twistyizzyI knew what you meant

Just saw the figures. Yes doom loop. That is a huge problem.

ChardonnaysBeastlyCat · 23/03/2025 08:31

GrizzlyHairBear · 22/03/2025 21:50

‘We just need them all gone’ was what I initially commented on. You know you are stuck with them for a long four years so it is what it is.

We are all stuck with them.

PuttingouttheFirewithGasoline · 23/03/2025 08:47

I think it's very telling that the public reaction to all these cuts has been quiet.
If the tories did this there would have been endless violent riots outside downing Street by now with grotesques and gargoyles of the tories and banners about brutal cuts and axes
Interesting because it's coming from their own team, silence and yet no riots or violence from the "other side".
Many on the right are equally horrified by the cuts.
Unfortunately after the winter fuels low bar cut off I don't hold out hope for any fair reforms done in a human and sympathetic way.

Yet Ed miliband has been awarded how many billions for net zero? Is this the time and place??

Parsley1234 · 23/03/2025 09:01

Every single day their behaviour gets worse more incompetence more disbelief at their antics. The headlines that we will all be poorer in 2030 is fucking depressing. I buy and sell as a hobby one of my suppliers has been pulled off of doing clearance to dealing with bins in Bristol because the bin men are on strike or working to rule or something more and more rats every week and the council having to pay contractors to do the clearance at more cost. Everything such bullshit and so many people oblivious

EasternStandard · 23/03/2025 09:07

The bins thing is extreme, there’s hardly any posts on here. It looks so bad.

Agree if last gov had done this stuff it would go down differently. Many are loyal though.

Barbadossunset · 23/03/2025 09:58

Now apparently Labour MPs want Starmer to reduce the powers of the ECHR. I guess Starmer and plenty of other Labour MPs regard criticism of that court as the greatest heresy, I can’t imagine they will go along with that suggestion.

twistyizzy · 23/03/2025 09:59

Barbadossunset · 23/03/2025 09:58

Now apparently Labour MPs want Starmer to reduce the powers of the ECHR. I guess Starmer and plenty of other Labour MPs regard criticism of that court as the greatest heresy, I can’t imagine they will go along with that suggestion.

They may be in favour once result of legal challenge on VAT cones through. Seen article saying Disability cuts breach HR too and various charities looking at legal challenges

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