Trump's Theory about the Plane Crash

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Just watched his press conference in absolute disbelief. He's just blamed the air traffic controllers as apparently under the Biden administration they recruited people into the role who weren't intellectually capable. He actually blames diversity criteria and basically box ticking.... 'hiring people with severe intellectual and psychiatric disabilities' - that's a direct quote.

As someone with ASD, anxiety and depression who works in a high level, highly skilled role, I am angry on behalf of anyone like me.

The man is a dangerous liar.

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It is an astounding thing for him to have said, truly chilling, and I hope that by the end of 2028 that the vast majority of voters will still be in the frame of mind to find it astounding. Resistance must be mental as much as anything else.
I am as critical as any other strident GC feminist of how inclusivity politics has lost its way, but if you're going to make claims like that, you MUST back it up with robust evidence, or they just become grossly stigmatising mudslinging.

The way he lets his mouth run , it looks like he is heading in the same direction he used to accuse Biden of .

That's not the ATC audio that I have heard.

He needs to hold back on the fake tan as well as his gob !

He sacked hundreds of FAA and ATC staff last week because they were DEI hires. This is his fault

As air traffic controllers?
NB: of course people with dwarfism, missing limbs etc can be air traffic controllers.

Fact checked Trumps stupidity. Didn’t need to to know in my gut it’s bullocks but here we go. This is Snopes on the report from 2024 and Musks ridiculous tweets.

‘The cited FAA text is real, but the implication that the policy is new, or that it stems from efforts that began under U.S. Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg and President Biden, was demonstrably false. It has been included on the FAA's website since at least as early as <a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20130226035813/www.faa.gov/jobs/diversity_inclusion/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">February 2013. It was present during the entirety of the <a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20190108213923/www.faa.gov/jobs/diversity_inclusion/" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">Trump administration, and it remains present at the <a class="break-all" href="https://web.archive.org/web/20240115082136/www.faa.gov/jobs/diversity_inclusion" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">time of this reporting.
In response to their reporting, the FAA told Fox News that their hiring policies do not negate the need for candidates to meet rigorous qualifications, depending on position:’

https://www.snopes.com/news/2024/01/15/faa-dei-initiatives/

Surely we’ve seen that Trump will say whatever he wants to achieve his end. He is very loose with the truth, he honestly doesn’t give a damn.He’ll say what he wants and people will go along with it.His dominance, energy, basically force of will! I suppose we could all learn something. Conscientiousness and honestly don’t necessarily play a part and most of us couldn’t do it but he’s learnt that bragging and blagging, railroading his points through,very often work! I couldn’t be that sort of person and most of us couldn’t.
Sift through what he says and make of it what you will.

Smooth.

Sorry OP. Trump is a disgusting disabilist pig. I really hope you can try to tune him out. He only represents himself when he talks.

As someone who grew up in an environment where people were given jobs based on their religion/ political persuasion, because of the dominance of one side over the other, it was only with the implementation of fairness and equity laws that prohibited this ( for the most part, although it still goes on.) This went on for YEARS to the point people had to leave their homes and move abroad to get work. This form of DEI was implemented to ensure fairness and equity.

In trumps America the white male will oust all ethnic persuasions and most women, well women who can't or wont challenge the men too much. Project 2025 is undermining womens rights on many fronts and all workers rights, no unions, no overtime. Trump tried to imply Harris was DEI , but she was vastly more qualified than him, handed his butt to him in the debate but America can't seem to accept that a woman especially a black one was more intelligent and capable than him.

Ps I'm white and am not American.

😂 Yeah. I don’t know what on earth happened there.

Anyway. The main message is that the FAA hiring policy was the same throughout his first term as well. And, nowhere does it stipulate air traffic control.

So he’s talking crap as usual but we all knew that right?! Not to mention the lack of morals, ethics and compassion.

It's sheer bollocks. The FAA website makes it perfectly clear every applicant has to meet the same standards. Pilots in particular have stringent sight checks.

They were recruiting specifically to hit targets for those with visual impairments. That's why people were up in arms.

It was a year ago, the info is still out there if you care to look.

If you think it didn't happen then there will be no issue then. So all sorted.

I think it would take slightly longer than a week for any new D&I-free hiring policies to take effect

Do you really believe that sight wasn’t an essential criteria for a pilot?

"Do you think people with "severe intellectual and psychiatric disabilities" should be air traffic controllers?

FFS!! 🙄"

@Thatissimplyuntrue calm down dear, I was posing a question not making a statement

Interesting that British news is reporting that staffing had an issue at the time of the crash. Some painful stuff to hear at the press conference shortly?

I have no idea who the lady was denying Trump’s claims of employees being less than they should be. She basically said not everyone can do every job, the FAA’s aim was equality and diversity, not to to employ people who weren’t capable of the job and that this did not mean standards were under par and that as the investigation has only just started, he should basically keep his stupid orange face shut (well, that bit’s my interpretation, but she did pretty much say he was clueless and should remain silent until the outcome of the investigation is known)

I’m not sure how relevant pilot medical standards are with respect to FAA recruiting (though I guess they will have some pilots in house).

The FAA set the medical standards required for the various classes of medical certificate, actual recruitment policy is down to the individual airlines doing the recruiting…. and a discussion about that is probably something for another day or thread as and when Trump sounds off about that.

Since when did someone call out the reason for a crash before there was an investigation. Trump was already looking to end DEI so leapt on this as an excuse.

I worked in the nhs, I was a well qualified nurse but wouldn't have made a great brain surgeon. Similarly working for the FAA probably doesn't mean everyone was employed as an air traffic controller.

@blacksax I hope you're right. And if not, I hope those families do sue FAA and I hope they win big.

As you said, this is a country which has elected Trump, so it would not surprise me to find out that safety in FAA hiring standards was compromised by federally imposed D&I targets.

I think this is the most likely explanation

Again, it wasnt my advert. I wasnt recruiting. The whole point was that this policy was insane.

You have a link for this advert for blind pilots, I assume?

Look, over here, no not over THERE, over HERE!

I wouldn't dismiss the terrorism angle, or at the very least a D+I issue within the military itself that is just as problematic for them as Trump is making out it is for FAA.

No civilian/military aircraft crashes during Biden's watch?. Day one of Trump and look what happens.

But in the end it may well be the heli pilot's error. Whether that's down to recruitment of an unsuitable person due to D+I or not remains to be seen.