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Trump's Theory about the Plane Crash

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NameChangedForThis1985 · 30/01/2025 17:05

Just watched his press conference in absolute disbelief. He's just blamed the air traffic controllers as apparently under the Biden administration they recruited people into the role who weren't intellectually capable. He actually blames diversity criteria and basically box ticking.... 'hiring people with severe intellectual and psychiatric disabilities' - that's a direct quote.

As someone with ASD, anxiety and depression who works in a high level, highly skilled role, I am angry on behalf of anyone like me.

The man is a dangerous liar.

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Stephenra · 31/01/2025 00:39

Typical response of a narcissist. The 65+million who cast their ballots may now reflect 'We voted for this.'

RafaistheKingofClay · 31/01/2025 00:39

Livelovebehappy · 31/01/2025 00:24

Not true. They didn’t choose Harris, not because she was a woman of colour, but because she was pretty useless and incompetent. Anyone who saw her or listened to her campaign in the lead up to the vote could see she was totally out of her depth.

And yet Trump is way more out of his depth than Harris ever was.

Any argument that Harris wasn’t elected due to competency issues is almost immediately undermined by the fact that the person chosen instead was Donald Trump.

Ger1atricMillennial · 31/01/2025 00:41

SpidersAreShitheads · 31/01/2025 00:30

No, I’m not missing the point. I broadly agree with you on most of what you’ve said, although I wouldn’t be giving Shapiro the time of day.

Lots of left-leaning women have found themselves in a predicament, in the U.K. as well as the US. Our safety and rights have been compromised under the guise of inclusion by the left and the only parties offering any kind of fact based policies are on the right. The issue with that is that their reasons for not wanting inclusion are shady and many of their policies harm women in different ways eg/ reproductive healthcare for women under Trump, removal of DEI which largely benefitted women, etc.

I agree Trump engages in rage politics and his aim is division not unity. He’s currently hell bent on revenge and seems to care even less about the sanctity of law this time around.

The point I was making is that the Democrats aren’t a “far” left party which is what you said. Left? Yes. Absolutely not far left though. A very way long from that, in fact.

I don’t think their insistence on gender ideology is the only reason they lost but I think it certainly played a part.

It’s mad though really. Trump is up there making wild claims with absolutely no basis in fact and everyone* just shrugs. I don’t know how he gets away with such blatant and baseless lies when the Democrats were hung out to dry partially based on their refusal to prioritise biological reality.

*when I say everyone, I mean Trump-ers, Republicans, and a large section of the media.

I said some the leftist views discussed in the election are extreme. I used the example of radical inclusion of trans-gender ideology, which I stand by as being extreme. I also stand by the assertion that AOC is also a political extremist along the same lines as Farage is in the UK.

Last time we got Trump it was because he was a famous person and entertaining, this time it is because the left were caught napping, and they were so full of their own virtue to come down off their high horse and actually examine what they were saying. They made it easy for him, and now we are stuck with this twat interfering in our lives for at least 4 years.

Livelovebehappy · 31/01/2025 00:46

B2B25 · 30/01/2025 18:11

I still can't fathom how he ended up with another term in power tbh.

Try thinking about why…….it’s pretty obvious. The Democrats handed it to him on a plate. They kept Biden in office long after it became obvious he wasn’t well enough to lead the country, then following an absolute shitshow of publicised gaffes, they stepped him down at the last minute and shoved Harris in, despite her being highly disliked and not having sufficient time to repair the damage caused by the Biden administration. So if you’re looking for someone to blame, then try the Democrats. The American people had little option. I think a lot of people really wanted Harris to do well in the run up, but she was clearly out of her depth.

Pallisers · 31/01/2025 00:46

Livelovebehappy · 31/01/2025 00:24

Not true. They didn’t choose Harris, not because she was a woman of colour, but because she was pretty useless and incompetent. Anyone who saw her or listened to her campaign in the lead up to the vote could see she was totally out of her depth.

Anyone didn't include the 74 million people who DID vote for her. Trump won better than he did in 2016 as he won the electoral college and the popular vote. But despite his propaganda this wasn't a landslide for Trump by any means. He won 49.8 percent of the votes cast. Harris won 48.3 percent of the votes cast.

But I suspect the next four years will give us new definitions of useless and incompetent - they have already become irregular verbs. I mean look at the Trump cabinet picks currently under review. The best and brightest available without a doubt.

And maybe a commander in chief blaming a crash on his military pilots with hours of a tragic crash with no investigation whatsover - that might bring a new definition of something too.

Ger1atricMillennial · 31/01/2025 00:48

Pallisers · 31/01/2025 00:46

Anyone didn't include the 74 million people who DID vote for her. Trump won better than he did in 2016 as he won the electoral college and the popular vote. But despite his propaganda this wasn't a landslide for Trump by any means. He won 49.8 percent of the votes cast. Harris won 48.3 percent of the votes cast.

But I suspect the next four years will give us new definitions of useless and incompetent - they have already become irregular verbs. I mean look at the Trump cabinet picks currently under review. The best and brightest available without a doubt.

And maybe a commander in chief blaming a crash on his military pilots with hours of a tragic crash with no investigation whatsover - that might bring a new definition of something too.

Absolutely, and if he is blaming the ATC, may he spend the rest of his presidency on the tarmac every time he wants to go down to Florida

snugsnug1 · 31/01/2025 00:49

SpidersAreShitheads · 31/01/2025 00:35

Genuinely can’t imagine how shit it must be for you with him as your president.

I think Trump transcends politics because he’s such a vile, corrupt individual. It’s not about having a party in charge whose policies you don’t agree with - it’s about a lawless toddler trampling over your whole constitution to satisfy his own personal needs.

I haven’t been able to escape seeing his twatty fucking face on my TV and I’m in the U.K.

I just hope most of Project2025 doesn’t come to fruition because there have been whispers about presidents being able to run for more than two terms or even scrapping elections entirely 😳

I'm actually in the UK (dual citizen) but it's still incredibly worrying and painful, and my family is there, including one fairly high level government employee who will either be turfed out or had their life made a misery by this administration.

Sadly, I think enough of Project 2025 has already been put into motion to do some very serious and long-lasting damage, even if the courts don't uphold the actions (assuming the Orange Cunt even obeys court rulings).

The more than two terms thing is actually hilarious (at this point) because they've written in that the third term can't be an option for anyone who has served two consecutive terms, because then they'd be shitting their pants that Obama would run. Cowards.

It's very distressing that so many people either can't see him for what he is or, worse, like him for what he is.

Livelovebehappy · 31/01/2025 00:50

Pallisers · 31/01/2025 00:46

Anyone didn't include the 74 million people who DID vote for her. Trump won better than he did in 2016 as he won the electoral college and the popular vote. But despite his propaganda this wasn't a landslide for Trump by any means. He won 49.8 percent of the votes cast. Harris won 48.3 percent of the votes cast.

But I suspect the next four years will give us new definitions of useless and incompetent - they have already become irregular verbs. I mean look at the Trump cabinet picks currently under review. The best and brightest available without a doubt.

And maybe a commander in chief blaming a crash on his military pilots with hours of a tragic crash with no investigation whatsover - that might bring a new definition of something too.

I suspect though that many peoples hatred of Trump was greater than their dislike for Harris. They voted for her not because they thought she’d do a good job, but because they hated Trump so much, they would vote a donkey in if they thought it would keep Trump out.

ChessorBuckaroo · 31/01/2025 00:54

Crazytimesbackthen · 30/01/2025 17:26

I wonder if the families of the dead passengers were comforted by Trump’s declaration that they didn’t die in the icy cold river, they died in the warm embrace of a loving god.

As insincere as you can get, and an atheist to boot (he could never declare that of course as that would make him unelectable to the gullible masses there).

He's an astonishingly transparent bluffer, and yet to swathes of possibly the only nationality on the planet who can't see that he isn't.

It's an immense embarrassment to a nationality (not that they are aware of it of course, not being aware of the blindingly obvious).

It's fascinating how the psyche of an individual is shaped by their location, as tens of millions who live there have the same gullible disposition (UFO sightings galore, most cults, home of Mormons, Seventh Day Adventists, Jehovahs etc.).

Pallisers · 31/01/2025 00:58

Well I voted for her because of her character and policies - and most people I know did too.

I don't think Harris is a donkey - I hope you don't either. I also don't particularly care for your take on why people like me voted for her - you have no idea. At the moment the federal grant system for groundbreaking labs and research facilities all over the US is in chaos. We are out of the Paris accord and the WHO. Insurrectionists, including violent people with criminal records beyond this crime, are walking free. And we are 10 days in.

But Trump told us he would do this - in fairness he was straight up about it. THAT is why we didn't vote for him. Not because we hate him - what an absolutely silly thing to say.

I didn't vote for Bush, McCain, or Dole either. Was that because I hated them? Why do you think Trump is different? Do tell?

TooBigForMyBoots · 31/01/2025 01:02

Lilifer · 30/01/2025 23:34

"Me too. I switch it off though, or fast forward through items I find unpleasant or upsetting. There are world leaders (lots of them!) guilty of far worse than verbals (FAR worse) who barely merit a mention on MN? I'm of the opinion that the dialogue around Trump is media induced hysteria 🙂"

@SassK nailed it 🙌🏻

Mnetters talking about the #1 news story is hysteria? Don't be ridiculous.🙄

On another note, I've seen an increase in the accusations of hysteria on Mnet recently. Mostly from Trump and Musk fans/apologists. Is misogyny contagious?

Livelovebehappy · 31/01/2025 01:06

RafaistheKingofClay · 31/01/2025 00:39

And yet Trump is way more out of his depth than Harris ever was.

Any argument that Harris wasn’t elected due to competency issues is almost immediately undermined by the fact that the person chosen instead was Donald Trump.

But Trump has been in office before. And America didn’t do too bad under him at all. So he has a proven record - people know what they’re getting.

snugsnug1 · 31/01/2025 01:07

Pallisers · 31/01/2025 00:58

Well I voted for her because of her character and policies - and most people I know did too.

I don't think Harris is a donkey - I hope you don't either. I also don't particularly care for your take on why people like me voted for her - you have no idea. At the moment the federal grant system for groundbreaking labs and research facilities all over the US is in chaos. We are out of the Paris accord and the WHO. Insurrectionists, including violent people with criminal records beyond this crime, are walking free. And we are 10 days in.

But Trump told us he would do this - in fairness he was straight up about it. THAT is why we didn't vote for him. Not because we hate him - what an absolutely silly thing to say.

I didn't vote for Bush, McCain, or Dole either. Was that because I hated them? Why do you think Trump is different? Do tell?

I voted for her for all the same reasons and would happily do so again.

But I'm going to put my hand up and say, I do actually hate him. I hate the lying, the gaslighting, the racism, the lack of empathy, the lack of respect for women, the grifting, the cheating, the felonies, the fraud, the disrespect for the Constitution...

Sadly, I could go on

Livelovebehappy · 31/01/2025 01:10

Pallisers · 31/01/2025 00:58

Well I voted for her because of her character and policies - and most people I know did too.

I don't think Harris is a donkey - I hope you don't either. I also don't particularly care for your take on why people like me voted for her - you have no idea. At the moment the federal grant system for groundbreaking labs and research facilities all over the US is in chaos. We are out of the Paris accord and the WHO. Insurrectionists, including violent people with criminal records beyond this crime, are walking free. And we are 10 days in.

But Trump told us he would do this - in fairness he was straight up about it. THAT is why we didn't vote for him. Not because we hate him - what an absolutely silly thing to say.

I didn't vote for Bush, McCain, or Dole either. Was that because I hated them? Why do you think Trump is different? Do tell?

But it’s okay for people on here to accuse those people who voted for Trump as idiots and thick? What makes you more superior to those who voted in Trump? You are judging Trump supporters of exactly the same thing that you’re being affronted about.

Pallisers · 31/01/2025 01:13

Livelovebehappy · 31/01/2025 01:06

But Trump has been in office before. And America didn’t do too bad under him at all. So he has a proven record - people know what they’re getting.

Were you an american living under the Trump administration? I was. It was chaos, lies, threats and the stacking of the supreme court to not just remove the federal right to abortion for women - something that will affect women's health for generations and has already caused deaths - but also recently confer king-like immunity on presidents for acts done in office.

Didn't do so badly? Maybe YOU didn't do so badly under Trump. I did much better under Biden (well actually I probably paid more tax under biden than trump as we are high earners but that doesn't influence my vote because like Oliver wendall holmes I think taxes are the price you pay for living in a civilized society and I don't share much in values with elon musk and the rest of the merry band of robbers)

Charliecatpaws · 31/01/2025 01:15

user1471538283 · 30/01/2025 17:20

The man is clearly unhinged. I just don't understand how a felon who is mentally unwell was voted in. He was voted in because he is a white man with money behind him and the opposition was a black woman.

He's stopped benefits as well. So those voters are upset. He's sacking people so people who were relying on jobs to fulfil their dreams are upset. He's removing administrations so there's no oversight. This was all going to happen and Elon Musk and the rest of them are delighted.

I don't understand how he was voted in again??? I really can't comprehend that so many Americans can support him?

That said people in the UK voted Boris in ???

LuckyPeonies · 31/01/2025 01:15

The former FAA chief Michael Whitaker resigned 10 days ago, after musk pressured him to resign. And why did musk want him to resign? Because Whitaker fined space x for safety violations. And as this administration and its billionaire donors are obviously not subject to the same rules as we peasants, holding them accountable for violating those pesky rules is unacceptable. 🙄

So in the first 10 days of the trump administration there was no head of the FAA, and on January 22 trump fired the Aviation security advisory committee. And he froze the hiring of new air traffic controllers.

And when Sean Duffy, the new secretary of transportation, was asked ‘Is there an acting FAA director?’ he walked away from reporters.

ForRealwhen · 31/01/2025 01:15

AgnesX · 30/01/2025 17:30

It's highly unlikely that they would be in the first place. 🙄

Why ever not if a president can be???

RocketNan · 31/01/2025 01:20

Does anyone seriously expect him to speak with intelligence and credibility every day for the next four years? Even Trump supporters, do you seriously think he speaks the truth 100% of the time?

American politics, no, world politics, is pretty screwed up. Greedy people in it for selfish reasons. The worst of the worst up against the same. There may be a few outliers, but most are not the sort of people who should hold office.

ImWithGuineaPigsOnThisOne · 31/01/2025 01:21

I don't understand Trump 's comments. The ATC wasn't disabled so why is he bringing this up?

Ger1atricMillennial · 31/01/2025 01:23

RocketNan · 31/01/2025 01:20

Does anyone seriously expect him to speak with intelligence and credibility every day for the next four years? Even Trump supporters, do you seriously think he speaks the truth 100% of the time?

American politics, no, world politics, is pretty screwed up. Greedy people in it for selfish reasons. The worst of the worst up against the same. There may be a few outliers, but most are not the sort of people who should hold office.

Right.. he is disengaging journalists, he did it in his first term, so it just became and echo chamber.

halfpastten · 31/01/2025 01:25

DEI is extreme in the US. We saw that in the reports of the Califorian wild fires, with the fire women who were unable to do the necessary fireman's lift and blamed the victims for not getting themselves out of the way! That version of DEI is about equal outcomes not equal opportunities. It's not about merit. The list of physical and psychological ailments the FAA were encouraging applicants to apply with and aiming to represent in the context of equal outcomes DEI is scary in terms of direct competence and also additional stress on other competent employees. Those concerns are not new and have been reported on. It was an accident waiting to happen. Biden's administration did not care, DEI was cheap politics which gave warm and fuzzies rather than real equality and proper political development. Don't let TDS obscure this issue.

Pallisers · 31/01/2025 01:26

Livelovebehappy · 31/01/2025 01:10

But it’s okay for people on here to accuse those people who voted for Trump as idiots and thick? What makes you more superior to those who voted in Trump? You are judging Trump supporters of exactly the same thing that you’re being affronted about.

I have NEVER said that people who voted for Trump are idiots and thick or that it is okay for people to say so. Nor have I said I am superior. I explained why I voted the way I did - refuting the accusation that voters like me would have voted for a donkey instead of trump (pretty offensive don't you think?)

The lies are exhausting.

snugsnug1 · 31/01/2025 01:51

halfpastten · 31/01/2025 01:25

DEI is extreme in the US. We saw that in the reports of the Califorian wild fires, with the fire women who were unable to do the necessary fireman's lift and blamed the victims for not getting themselves out of the way! That version of DEI is about equal outcomes not equal opportunities. It's not about merit. The list of physical and psychological ailments the FAA were encouraging applicants to apply with and aiming to represent in the context of equal outcomes DEI is scary in terms of direct competence and also additional stress on other competent employees. Those concerns are not new and have been reported on. It was an accident waiting to happen. Biden's administration did not care, DEI was cheap politics which gave warm and fuzzies rather than real equality and proper political development. Don't let TDS obscure this issue.

Can you please give me a reputable source backing up the claims about DEI and the Californian fires?

The FAA policies have been in place since 2013, by the way.

And people do know that the FAA hires a lot of people in positions other than air traffic control and piloting, right?

ChessorBuckaroo · 31/01/2025 02:06

Lilifer · 30/01/2025 17:07

Do you think people with "severe intellectual and psychiatric disabilities" should be air traffic controllers?

Jesus Christ.

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