Trump's Theory about the Plane Crash

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Just watched his press conference in absolute disbelief. He's just blamed the air traffic controllers as apparently under the Biden administration they recruited people into the role who weren't intellectually capable. He actually blames diversity criteria and basically box ticking.... 'hiring people with severe intellectual and psychiatric disabilities' - that's a direct quote.

As someone with ASD, anxiety and depression who works in a high level, highly skilled role, I am angry on behalf of anyone like me.

The man is a dangerous liar.

(edited by MNHQ)

surely blind application gets rid of all these issue?

Embarrassing .

Why do you need to be spoon fed constantly?

Believe me, I have.

Many people posted the same question to you.

Why is it embarrassing? Have you got a link or not @Atlasvue ?

It was too tricky without going back pages. But that is what you were saying. To actively pick an under represented person deliberately over a more represented person would be unfair in your eyes.

So how would you pick between two equal candidates?

Of course they need to be matching most of the criteria (rarely do any candidates fulfil all btw), but if there aren't any other candidates coming through, often companies will end up choosing what is presented, especially if it's a long drawn affair.

Of course, at entry level there are aptitude tests which weed certain candidates out but most head hunting is for more experienced candidates so would typically not involve aptitude although may involve personality tests.

A pending legal case isn’t why a programme shuts down. The case won’t be heard until later this year.

He’s saying they might have been hired because they ticked a diversity box rather than because they were the best person for the job.

So US airspace might not be safe as a result ?

Interviews can’t be blind.

’they’ - that’s what I’m objecting to. I don’t know this person. I don’t know whether they are honest. I don’t even know whether they exist. Do you have any evidence?

I think the story is there was only one “tower” controller - that’s roughly speaking the individual who looks after aircraft pre -touchdown, on the runway, and also sequences take offs.

I’m only making a slightly educated guess here but in the same to room (visual control room?) there may well also have been a dedicated ground controller (looks after taxing traffic) and at least one assistant to help out with what might be called admin.

I’ve provided links and quotes that others chose to misread.

Go ahead and do the work. It’s not difficult.

They haven't got an answer for this and get all aggro when anyone asks this question 🤷‍♀️

Are you though?

There are Executive orders protecting children which you must have heard about. Others protecting the rights of women and girls to privacy and safety.

Protecting women's sports too.

He said he would do this but then shocked everyone by keeping his promises. That's so unlike politicians these days.

Actually they can..
Interview behind a screen and if necessary just use a voice disguise thing my dc had one for Xmas.

So you can't see any candidates and you can't tell the sex?

Where I work I have seen jobs stay vacant because none of the applicants were appointable. Re advertising then happens or a rethink of how to organise (e.g downgrade the role but add in more oversight elsewhere).

He said he’d release his tax returns when appropriate, everyone is still waiting

Who the fuck cares what Trump says? He'll be gone for good soon enough.

Does this ever happen?

It wasn’t a consideration in the application and interview process, lets say.
You end up with two equally qualified and experienced abdicates who came through a totally fair process. One is aligned with the majority of your workforce in some way. One is from a different group, which is underrepresented in your organisation.
Which do you choose and why?

In the Oval Office a bit ago, Trump was asked by a reporter if he will visit the crash site of the plane in DC. His response: "What's the site? The water? You want me to go swimming?"

Your link:

The candidates in this program will receive the same rigorous consideration in terms of aptitude, medical and security qualifications as those individuals considered for a standard public opening for air traffic controller jobs.
Which means that people who apply need to meet the same standards as other ATC's

Participants in the program will receive up to one year of experience in an Air Route Traffic Control Center (ARTCC) with the potential to be appointed to a temporary ATCS position at the FAA Academy.

Which means they get experience to get into an academy

Is there a missing link about the programme?

I've just checked your posts on this thread @Atlasvue and I certainly can't see any links that you've provided about why the program ended.

Presumably

But it wasn't a single legal case - it's a class action. If the biographical testing had continued and the numbers in the class action increase, the payout would have substantially increased. If they'd continued with the testing and more candidates were excluded, they could have applied to join the class action.

I'd have thought they were potentially just covering their arses and limiting possible losses? Especially if they think their chances at trial are iffy.

I haven't found anything that suggests the programme led to unsuitable hires. The whole issue seems to be with who was excluded, rather than who was chosen.