Anyone else have a visceral reaction to the picture in the news of Axel the murderer

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I’m not going to link or post his picture as he’s beyond evil and I can’t bear to look at him. I don’t want to be a grief vampire at all, that’s not what this post is about. I just wondered if anyone else has experienced such a response to it or anything else? I haven’t experienced it before

@MJconfessions just looked it up, your so right. 2 completely different sides to that face

It was disgusting of you to suggest that. Op didn't deserve that, we already had this earlier in the thread which makes me think you just came looking for a reaction.

I really don't like the picture and do find it frightening but what I see is someone who looks very, very unwell to me. I'm not saying that's an excuse. But the deadness of the eyes and kind of collapsed facial expression look like other pictures I've seen of severely mentally ill people.

I'd prefer it not to be used because the victims and families have to see that. I feel awful for his own parents too.

I don't like "pure evil"/"face of evil" type descriptions because they make me feel like people want to locate evil as an external uncontrollable force. Those who do evil things come from society, from a family, from among us and we all know that "normal" people can do evil things with alarming regularity, or can be persuaded to in particular situations. We should guard against evil things happening but not assume they can only happen because of inherently evil people. And I feel that photos like this are used to encourage that.

Kyle has only had one photo released and he looked like a normal young man in that.
I obviously have some other choice words for Kyle.
But I don't know why people are pretending that irs not normal to feel a physical reaction to a photo of someone who stabbed a small child over 100 times. I appreciate that Kyle is just as heinous, but irs plain what about ery.

Wise words, @WhatterySquash

It was pre trial and he was a minor. There probably weren't many pictures around of him.

This is spot on. Nobody can diagnose evil from a photo without the context of knowing what they've done.

OP never said she could .
We are diagnosing him with evil because of what he's done.
It honestly baffles me that you're putting your energy into arguing a non point.

Go and watch the video of him getting the taxi, hear the victim statements, or the proceedings of what he did to these girls

Anything except try and find ways to prove he's not evil. Does it really matter.

No, not visceral but I'm probably desensitised due to my line of work.

I hope things are changed very quickly.

Urgh murder apologists

Reported me did you? Well point still stands even if I have been deleted 😡

Imagine them having the audacity to report you 😅

I think he's horrific but I don't see evil in pictures.

Not sure why we are talking about " side show Bob" hair.

He did a repulsive thing. Absolutely repulsive.

I don't know how people can see that from a picture though.

Agree. I don’t think heavily edited/filtered photos should be used at all.

I don’t at all like seeing this guys stupid mug shot. But showing photos of him as a child before the trial is baffling.

He looks like an idiot in the photo. I wouldn't have found it frightening if I didn't know what he'd done iyswim. I'd think he looked like a tit. However with the context, yes it is disturbing and I'm sick of seeing it everywhere these past few days.

As details have emerged about the injuries inflicted on those poor little girls I honestly can't bear to think about it any more, it's unfathomable. I really don't think he will last long in prison. Pure evil. The death penalty would be too good for him.

I was repulsed when I saw his photo. He looks exactly like the monster he is. To think that evil face was the last thing some of those poor girls ever saw is absolutely horrific and knowing this must be unbearable for the poor parents. 52 years in prison is a very long time, I honestly don't think he'll last that long. I'm just glad he's in a normal prison and not in a hospital for the mentally ill. I've had dealings with Ashworth where he was held previously via my job and I'm glad to hear he's now in Belmarsh which I imagine is nowhere near as "cushy".

I always wonder what happened to make him so evil. Not excusing him at all but it's not normal, is it?
Not just him but others too. It's frightening to think people like him just walk around and live somewhat normal lives and then do something like this.

Yes, I did!!!! Honestly, I hardly ever have these and haven't to other really horrid killers but when I looked at the photo of him my insides screamed in a weird way, really awful

Agree as opposed to Kyle Clifford's picture in the news where he was wearing a tuxedo, neat haircut, beard trimmed and smiling. They are both men and hideous criminals but please note the difference to Axel's photo in the news.

Would you say the same thing if you looked at Lucy Letby's mug shot?

Has it occurred to you that there was perhaps no other photos of Axel?

Kyle's photo has clearly been taken off his social media

There's a gent in Gloucester who campaigns against media reporting because when his daughter was murdered by her bf, the photos they posted of her had him in or cropped out.

They just lift from social media or whatever is closest to hand.

There's no agenda here. They used the quickest photo they could find

Incidentally they couldn't have used Kyle's mugshot because he won't have had one!

Yes she gives me chills.
But I'm confused by the whataboutery. Are we suggesting poor old axel is a victim of bad reporting?

Hear hear. Great post and far better than the van banging nonsense in most of the thread.

'Van banging nonsense'

I didn't bang any vans neither did anybody else on the thread. I don't entirely blame the people who did.

Would that be not having any sympathy whatsoever for someone who gleefully stabbed a child over 100 times? Who said he was glad he did? Who dragged a child back in after she nearly got out?

Boohoo if he hadn't drank enough water (which incidentally he shouted about while the bereaved parents tried to speak at the trial).

It's worrying there are people with these views in the world. And on a parenting site.

Read the post again, there is no sympathy there.