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This is an excessive amount of holidays /nights away isn't it?

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itssnowinginhere · 05/01/2025 08:32

In a year ,this is a ridiculous amount in 12 months ....I understand a few but there becomes a point where is silly
Edinburgh,Lake district ,Newcastle x2 ,York,Gran Canaria ,Ibiza ,Barcelona and Cyprus
In 12 months !

OP posts:
Hwi · 05/01/2025 10:03

housethatbuiltme · 05/01/2025 09:44

Like what?

Spending money on holidays to travel and embrace the world and culture is one of the best things a person can do, along with having a family, embracing learning or building security... not everyone has to do all of these things (or all at once).

Some might prioritize travel while other prioritize education, then others prioritize family while another prioritize the property ladder/career/pension... some balance multiple while never getting the best of any.

If anything travel is the only one your likely to not be able to do later on as the others come with responsibility and travel requires freedom.

I recommend everyone travel as much as they can and suggest young people take gap years (even if circumstances mean thats only within their own country) while young.

When you are travelling, you are not 'embracing' the world and cultures - you are just travelling, that is all. This is semblance, not substance. Maybe you are eating local food too, but that is not culture. The most cultured person I met, with impeccable English and French, was a 60-year old private guide in the Hermitage in Leningrad in the 1990s. She never left the USSR, never felt the need, she studied languages, literature and art in depth there. She changed my idea of what 'embracing the world' and 'learning about cultures' should be.

LlynTegid · 05/01/2025 10:03

I would judge the number of flights, I would judge if holiday lets (Air BnB or similar) are being used, helping to price local people out of housing.

TorroFerney · 05/01/2025 10:03

cardibach · 05/01/2025 09:49

It absolutely doesn't suggest a deep unhappiness with where she lives! What an odd attitude! I love where I live and I've renovated a lively cottage there. I'm very happy. Don't mean I don't want to see other lovely places though!

Oh yes the „you can’t be happy if you have to go on holiday a lot“ rubbish.

Tryingtoconceivenumber2 · 05/01/2025 10:04

The year I was 32 before I had the kids we went to Mauritius, Florida, Australia and Italy in 12 months. Can't remember where we went in the UK but no doubt we went somewhere there to. We are home owners.

I would say it sounds like she's having a fabulous time and enjoying her life. As long as she's not getting in to debt or asking you to find it I don't see what the problem is.

We often go away every other month even now with two kids even if it's for a short break.

TorroFerney · 05/01/2025 10:05

LlynTegid · 05/01/2025 10:03

I would judge the number of flights, I would judge if holiday lets (Air BnB or similar) are being used, helping to price local people out of housing.

But the absolute joy is that you or the op judging makes not one iota of difference to the person being judged!

cardibach · 05/01/2025 10:05

MaggieBsBoat · 05/01/2025 10:00

You sound like my sister OP. My sister is now 44, never had a passport and told me off multiple times in my life for fecklessness - but remarkably too much travel.
I am now in a position where I’ve travelled the world, worked in numerous countries, have two language degrees and can safely happily say I shouldn’t travel anymore because it’s bad for the environment and have qualms about it. I never did tourism at all and took train everywhere I could - even to China via Russia. But it needs to stop.
My sister has been literally nowhere (including not even Wales or Scotland), is bitter about people with life experience and vents every available opportunity. Luckily we are now nc- I just have to hear her parochial moaning from others.

Edited

It's amazing that people who have travelled loads for years and years suddenly find environmentalism and criticise everyone else. And surely your sister did what you are now advocating we all do - and you aren't happy with that either because of its effect on her.

Growlybear83 · 05/01/2025 10:05

I think money is for enjoying and she should spend it on travelling if that's how she chooses tk spend her money.

devilspawn · 05/01/2025 10:05

Doesn't sound like a lot to me, I'm also in my 30s with no kids. Kids are crazy expensive, I go away more than that and still have a higher disposable income than my friends with kids.

babbi · 05/01/2025 10:05

I love to travel and do it a lot for both work and fun. Personal always on a budget as I have an eye to the future .
I am therefore inclined to agree with others about minding your own business BUT that said you know your sibling and I don’t and what the consequences of this lifestyle may be .

I have a sibling who’s IG and FB pages show some really magical trips but behind the scenes there are financial issues ,ie living irresponsibly out of their means with no savings for emergencies and indeed meeting their day to day commitments.
Numerous family members continually get calls begging for money “ I’m short on rent and the landlord will kick us out “ I need £100 to repair my car to get to work “ “ need money to buy the baby nappies “ you get the drift …
at the same time a trip to Mexico , the Canaries wherever is being booked . FB photos this morning show an overnight in a 5 * hotel 🤦‍♀️

So what I’m saying is unless this will impact you ( and be mindful in the future if you are asked to bail them out ) just leave her to it .

Just fyi , I refused to give my sibling £250 this morning, as that would effectively be paying for their overnight stay .🙄

oh and they are never available to help with family things , elderly parents etc .. so I hear you on that if you are being left with it all .

They have 3 children so this is not good for them

StampOnTheGround · 05/01/2025 10:05

Sounds great, and I've had some years like that!

Think money is better spent on things like that than materialistic things.

Yes it's nice to have savings, but nobody dies wishing they had more savings, they're happy they've lived their lives and had nice holidays etc.

I'm sure when she's had her fun, she'll settle a bit more and save for a house, but for now it sounds like she deserves to enjoy herself.

Pipsquiggle · 05/01/2025 10:06

itssnowinginhere · 05/01/2025 09:48

She is 33 no kids
Up until 3 years ago we both cared for our late mum as a full time thing
So I get she probably wants to live a bit as we had no life for 10 years but like I say to me she should be saving.
She doesn't own a house,they only rent

Seeing as you and your DSis sacrificed 10 years of your life to care for someone else, I would say she is just catching up on what she missed now she has no responsibilities.

As long as she can afford it, what's the issue

I know quite a few people whose parents have died when they were young and they are avid travellers

SchoolDilemma17 · 05/01/2025 10:07

itssnowinginhere · 05/01/2025 09:48

She is 33 no kids
Up until 3 years ago we both cared for our late mum as a full time thing
So I get she probably wants to live a bit as we had no life for 10 years but like I say to me she should be saving.
She doesn't own a house,they only rent

Wow she did 10 years of caring in her 20ies and now is enjoying life with a partner and you are jealous of that?
good for her! I am happy she is having some much deserved happy times with a partner.

My cousin cared for her parents and her GM, inherited a massive house but has no partner and joins her married siblings on family holidays. After years of being a carer she is now alone in a huge place and often lonely. Would you want that for your sister?

magicalmrmistoffelees · 05/01/2025 10:07

itssnowinginhere · 05/01/2025 09:48

She is 33 no kids
Up until 3 years ago we both cared for our late mum as a full time thing
So I get she probably wants to live a bit as we had no life for 10 years but like I say to me she should be saving.
She doesn't own a house,they only rent

‘To me she should be saving’.

What business is it of yours?

ThatsNotMyTeen · 05/01/2025 10:08

What business is it of yours?

devilspawn · 05/01/2025 10:08

cardibach · 05/01/2025 10:05

It's amazing that people who have travelled loads for years and years suddenly find environmentalism and criticise everyone else. And surely your sister did what you are now advocating we all do - and you aren't happy with that either because of its effect on her.

It's probably that she can't afford it any more rather than anything else, it's easy enough to travel by train to travel to the vast majority of places in Europe/Asia, and you can offset your carbon.

These people always seem to act like they're god's gift to the environment until you remind them that having kids is by far the worst damage to the environment you can do.

ACynicalDad · 05/01/2025 10:10

itssnowinginhere · 05/01/2025 09:48

She is 33 no kids
Up until 3 years ago we both cared for our late mum as a full time thing
So I get she probably wants to live a bit as we had no life for 10 years but like I say to me she should be saving.
She doesn't own a house,they only rent

I doubt this will last more than a couple more years, weekends in the UK for a couple, particularly if you split the bill needn't cost that much, maybe she's making up for lost time or squeezing some trips in before kids. Be happy for her and try not to be too jealous. Grown-up economics, house deposits, kids, and nursery costs may well be coming at her in the fast lane soon.

Anniegetyourgun · 05/01/2025 10:10

I have sympathy with those concerned about the carbon footprint, but (a) that isn't OP's angle, it's about whether it's good use of someone else's money and (b) there are more or less eco-friendly ways of travelling which we don't know they didn't use. Oh, and (c) I doubt going out for a cocktail is going to have a huge effect on world emissions, especially if they didn't drive.

I'm not a traveller myself, much, especially nowadays, but I really can't agree that people who love travelling do so because they're lacking something. It's just as fair to say I'm lacking the ambition or mental energy to get out there and actually look at real stuff instead of maybe reading a book about it or looking at photos that somebody else took. It is nice to get out and about, and also healthy if it involves a fair bit of walking.

As for the update about having to care for your Mum - look at it as her making up for all the weekend breaks and cocktails she could otherwise have had during those years. She'll probably slow down in a while, when she's had her fill. Or maybe not. Life experiences affect different people in different ways. Perhaps drop her a gentle hint that you hope she's also saving for the future, if you are really worried, but leave it at that and absolutely don't push the issue. It's up to her to organize her own life.

Heronwatcher · 05/01/2025 10:10

It’s fine, half are domestic mini breaks and the others are short hall. Not excessive at all and exactly what I would be doing if I didn’t have kids with a trip to the Caribbean at Christmas thrown in.

Have you got kids? Or been doing home improvements? Or bought a new car? What a terrible waste of money.

AMurderofMurderingCrows · 05/01/2025 10:10

I T. I S. N O N E. O F. Y O U R. B U S I N E S S

Itisjustmyopinion · 05/01/2025 10:11

itssnowinginhere · 05/01/2025 09:48

She is 33 no kids
Up until 3 years ago we both cared for our late mum as a full time thing
So I get she probably wants to live a bit as we had no life for 10 years but like I say to me she should be saving.
She doesn't own a house,they only rent

Doesn’t seem excessive to me and anyway mind your own business

She has no dependants and you can’t take it with you so what is wrong with having experiences if you can afford to have them

Ginnnny · 05/01/2025 10:13

Not excessive at all - sounds like you’re jealous, OP!

Crumpleton · 05/01/2025 10:13

itssnowinginhere · 05/01/2025 08:38

It's my sister
Ever since she met her partner (2 years ago ) she's away all the time
Including meals out /cocktails etc
I just think she could be using her money more sensible ,instead of holidays etc

It's her money.....she's earned it, may as well spend it enjoying life before HMRC whips it away.

LoveHearts69 · 05/01/2025 10:16

Not in a year, no! Most of those are within the uk so probably just weekend breaks and none of them are long haul. Everyone has different priorities and why shouldn’t she make the most of getting away while she doesn’t have children? You sound like you’re jealous of her.

yggvugg · 05/01/2025 10:17

This year I’ve holidayed in Liverpool x 2, London, Southampton, Sicily, Norway, Gran Canaria and Dublin. Im away again in a couple of weeks.

What is the problem? Good for your sister.

TheJones · 05/01/2025 10:18

Not at all OP. It depends on what you’re used to / can afford. My in laws never go away, we go away 2/4 weekends and have 6 holidays a year. They think we do a lot but compared to them we do but not compared to my family.

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