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DSS saying hasn’t got enough space in shared bedroom

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Tryingtoaccomodateeveryone · 31/12/2024 09:32

I’m trying my best to make it work and he’s being really ungrateful.

Me and dp have 2 ds (6 and 8) and dss is 15. 2 bed house (one very large bedroom one smaller that fits a double bed and one chest of drawers). Ds were sharing with 2 single beds in there and when dss stayed which used to be EOW me and dp would have the sofa bed downstairs.

Dss has now moved in with us so I got Ds 6 and 8 a bunkbed, a single bed for dss, a desk for dss, a small cupboard and cleared half the wardrobe so he had space for clothes. Put up 3 shelves for his things and used ikea shelves with storage boxes to partition half the room. It looks really nice. He’s furious . He wants our room as needs ‘privacy and quiet to study’.

My dc only use the room from 8-830pm each night as in the day they play downstairs. I’ve tried really hard to make this work (it was very last min due to an issue with dp ex).

I think it’s ok ? We can’t partition fully as renting. We can’t afford a bigger house so this is the best option. He thinks we should share a room with Ds 6 and 8 as wants his own space.

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LochKatrine · 31/12/2024 10:21

I'm sympathetic to all round, this boy has had a difficult time, obviously, but you can't just magic up space. All 3 boys will have to share a bedroom, but I agree that giving him that study gives him some space of his own.

Tryingtoaccomodateeveryone · 31/12/2024 10:21

CatherinedeBourgh · 31/12/2024 10:20

From what the OP said, her dh didn't know he had a son when they started their family.

Sounds like the OP and her dh are really decent human beings who are doing the best by a boy in an impossible situation - he found out at 7ish that his father was not his father, and at only 15 has to move in with his new father due to safety issues. It doesn't sound like the man he thought was his father was the nicest of people either, possibly.

Of course he's kicking off about the bedroom - it's the only thing in his fucked up life he has half a chance of fixing.

Is the mother going to pay any maintenance? If so, could that be put towards a move to a larger place?

That probably won’t be possible we are looking at the situation from the perspective that she will not be contributing at all due to the circumstances

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berksandbeyond · 31/12/2024 10:21

BlueSilverCats · 31/12/2024 10:20

@berksandbeyond so couples living in one bedroom flats should never have children?

Not if they're never ever planning to move, no. It's not ideal is it? Survivable? Yes. A good situation to bring a planned and wanted child into? Well, no. We can aim higher than Judy survival you know!

Iamnotalemming · 31/12/2024 10:22

honeylulu · 31/12/2024 10:00

I really don't think you should give up your bedroom. SS is having a tough time but it's madness to have 4 people crammed into one room so a sole 15 year old can have a room to himself!

I think letting him have the study area as his space is the answer. He can opt to sleep in the shared bedroom or on sofa bed (though his stuff will need to be kept in the bedroom or study) and if he sleeps in the living room he'll need to accept its a family room during the day.

I know posters will keep telling you off for not having a bigger house/having more kids than space but you are where you are and need to find a solution. You can't magic up more rooms.

I agree with this.
I think you are going to struggle with a lack of privacy and poor quality sleep yourself after a while. Remember you can't parent effectively if you're knackered.
Couldn't you try this compromise for a while at least? If you immediately give up your room you'll never be able to undo that.

YourGladSquid · 31/12/2024 10:22

MILLYmo0se · 31/12/2024 10:17

What studio? The former cupboard that fits a desk and a chair?

Yes - as long as he can make it his own space, he can use it and then go back upstairs to sleep.

They simply don’t have many options, they’ll have to work with what they have until they can find suitable room for everyone.

FatsiaJaponicaInTheGarden · 31/12/2024 10:22

Id echo @AllThePotatoesAreSingingJingleBells about going back to the social worker that placed him. He needs space.

cartagenagina · 31/12/2024 10:22

You sound absolutely lovely OP. 💐💐💐

DillyDallyingAllDay · 31/12/2024 10:22

Why don't you move the younger kids in with you? And leave your DS in the smaller room to himself

BonnyBugbear · 31/12/2024 10:23

Tryingtoaccomodateeveryone · 31/12/2024 09:35

I’m wondering do I move our work stuff from the study to front room and make the best of it to give him the study and put his desk and gaming chair etc etc in there so he has that as a study / gaming space ?

Why are you accommodating a Gaming Space? Everyone is disrupted for gaming?

Lentilweaver · 31/12/2024 10:23

This boy has already had a lot of crap. No wonder he is angry. None of it the fault of OP but...

FatsiaJaponicaInTheGarden · 31/12/2024 10:23

And yes this is a very kind thing you're doing - although I'd also echo his dad should be really stepping up here.

Where was he when presumably life wasn't safe with his mother? It must have got bad that he wasn't safe with her so presumably you saw this coming?

LochKatrine · 31/12/2024 10:23

DillyDallyingAllDay · 31/12/2024 10:22

Why don't you move the younger kids in with you? And leave your DS in the smaller room to himself

Two adults and two children in one bedroom, so that the ss can have the other bedroom? I can't see that working.

CatherinedeBourgh · 31/12/2024 10:24

I also second going back to social services - they placed him with you, they can advocate for your needs as a family.

FatsiaJaponicaInTheGarden · 31/12/2024 10:25

I think when this has been sorted I'd start another thread with the title of "how to support a traumatised ss who is moving in with us just before gcses" for a different type of response too.

alwayslearning789 · 31/12/2024 10:25

Cavalierorwhat · 31/12/2024 10:11

In your situation I would share the big room with the younger children and let him have the smaller room. No other changes.
Obviously looking to maybe get a three bedroom in the future. Yes you’d be sacrificing you and DP privacy but all children would feel secure.

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@Tryingtoaccomodateeveryone

Just to acknowledge that you are really trying hard to be understanding and have explained your DSS situation - it is indeed traumatic and for all involved.

Agree this move of all 4 of you in one room with your 2 DS might be a possible solution short term, but long term your DSS may feel left out as he still is outside 'your room' at the end of each day?

Could you explore using the lounge for you and hubby again, just whilst the dust settles and you can look at longer term options you can afford in due course?

I know it's hard but you are the adults in this admittedly tough situation and therefore can understand and manage the sacrifice a bit more.

Thank You for being so sensitive to this young man's plight and I hope with your practical help - plus continued talking with your DH as well importantly - that his pain may subside with time for the benefit of the whole family.

LochKatrine · 31/12/2024 10:25

CatherinedeBourgh · 31/12/2024 10:24

I also second going back to social services - they placed him with you, they can advocate for your needs as a family.

I think this is a good idea, it's definitely over crowding.

MadeForThis · 31/12/2024 10:25

Longer term you need a 3 bed house. Plans need to be put in place to make this happen.

Do you rent or own?

KilkennyCats · 31/12/2024 10:26

Tryingtoaccomodateeveryone · 31/12/2024 09:35

I’m wondering do I move our work stuff from the study to front room and make the best of it to give him the study and put his desk and gaming chair etc etc in there so he has that as a study / gaming space ?

Yes.

Insidelaurashead · 31/12/2024 10:26

Is moving (at some point, not tomorrow) an option? If so can you say to him 'hey, DSS, I'm so glad you're living with us. This is your home like it is mine, DPs, DS and DS'es. I'm sorry things aren't perfect, and we will be looking to move in X timeframe. In the meantime, what about the study being a room that is only used by you, you can keep your things in there so the little boys don't mess with them, when you are in there you will be left alone like if you had a bedroom of your own'

Tryingtoaccomodateeveryone · 31/12/2024 10:26

BonnyBugbear · 31/12/2024 10:23

Why are you accommodating a Gaming Space? Everyone is disrupted for gaming?

Because it’s his hobby and to be honest he really needs that relaxation / decompression time I think ? It’s important to him. It’s really hard as I cannot give details but what has happened was sudden and severe so he needs to be allowed to be a normal teenager and do something like gaming to take his mind off things

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GretchenWienersHair · 31/12/2024 10:26

Tryingtoaccomodateeveryone · 31/12/2024 09:37

I think I’ll do this I may say to dp and let dss choose stuff to redecorate it. He’s acting like a spoilt brat but I’m trying to ignore it as I think it’s actually unhappiness and trauma not actual genuine rude behaviour

Good approach.

Tryingtoaccomodateeveryone · 31/12/2024 10:27

I’ll update later when they’ve talked and we have a decision

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OatFlatWhiteForMePlease · 31/12/2024 10:27

Option 3 is madness. One or two at a push.

Washingforweeks · 31/12/2024 10:27

I’d invest in a comfier pull out bed and turn the living room into your bedroom. Me and DH did this until we could move. We bought an ottoman style sofa bed and the storage is where we put the bedding. Get a mattress topper too to lie on

tolerable · 31/12/2024 10:27

Guessing if deemed "safest" -choice isnt on table? Can you/dad do the room switch with him? lick of paint?

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