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DSS saying hasn’t got enough space in shared bedroom

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Tryingtoaccomodateeveryone · 31/12/2024 09:32

I’m trying my best to make it work and he’s being really ungrateful.

Me and dp have 2 ds (6 and 8) and dss is 15. 2 bed house (one very large bedroom one smaller that fits a double bed and one chest of drawers). Ds were sharing with 2 single beds in there and when dss stayed which used to be EOW me and dp would have the sofa bed downstairs.

Dss has now moved in with us so I got Ds 6 and 8 a bunkbed, a single bed for dss, a desk for dss, a small cupboard and cleared half the wardrobe so he had space for clothes. Put up 3 shelves for his things and used ikea shelves with storage boxes to partition half the room. It looks really nice. He’s furious . He wants our room as needs ‘privacy and quiet to study’.

My dc only use the room from 8-830pm each night as in the day they play downstairs. I’ve tried really hard to make this work (it was very last min due to an issue with dp ex).

I think it’s ok ? We can’t partition fully as renting. We can’t afford a bigger house so this is the best option. He thinks we should share a room with Ds 6 and 8 as wants his own space.

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ThankULord · 31/12/2024 17:25

Tryingtoaccomodateeveryone · 31/12/2024 09:50

I think to be honest I’m going to have to move the new single bed and ikea unit to our room and put our double bed in with the boys. I can’t see any other way . I know my feelings aren’t important but I thought I’d done really well it looked lovely ! But i was maybe approaching from the wrong viewpoint

That's crazy talk. Don't give up your room.

It is still early days. Give it time. He can have the study in the evenings/night for his studying.

As parents, tou need tour room for private discussions, for time away from the family, for the sake of tour mareiage and it is more practical.

Moving out of your room because he has demanded it, sets up an entitlement that will be difficult to correct.

There are other solutions. He will adapt and adjust. He is just upset.

SleeplessInWherever · 31/12/2024 17:26

Octalinx · 31/12/2024 17:23

He stayed there 48 Days a year. Also would have made it easier now if he moved in and had his own area.

Treat you kids with love and respect and you’d be surprised by the effect.

We’re going to arrive back at the same point here - what if giving him his own space involved a house move they couldn’t afford.

That’s a reflection of situation, not love or respect. Some people genuinely can’t stretch to paying for extra space.

Superhansrantowindsor · 31/12/2024 17:26

NameChanger91736 · 31/12/2024 17:04

The OP wrote he is acting like a spoilt brat. No other poster did. Fake outrage on your part, there was no people responding saying he was spoilt or ungrateful

I am astounded at the way people are responding here. This is a child who has clearly been let down by his mother and needs the comfort and security of a proper home with his dad. How is that being spoilt or ungrateful?

Also the very first post says he is being ungrateful.

Fluufer · 31/12/2024 17:28

SleeplessInWherever · 31/12/2024 17:26

We’re going to arrive back at the same point here - what if giving him his own space involved a house move they couldn’t afford.

That’s a reflection of situation, not love or respect. Some people genuinely can’t stretch to paying for extra space.

That poster means his own bed and storage. They obviously could, since they have now that they've been forced.

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 31/12/2024 17:28

SleeplessInWherever · 31/12/2024 17:26

We’re going to arrive back at the same point here - what if giving him his own space involved a house move they couldn’t afford.

That’s a reflection of situation, not love or respect. Some people genuinely can’t stretch to paying for extra space.

Then his father should have stopped at 2 children if he couldn't afford to provide a home for 3.

montelbano · 31/12/2024 17:31

OP I have read most of this thread. What seems to be lacking amongst many fms of the effect of this upheaval on the younger boys. There is a real danger of them feeling pushed out.
The idea of the two youngest sharing a bedroom with you and your DH and the dss having a room to himself is a non-starter. The four of you crammed in one room would mean a total lack of privacy and, more importantly, the two younger boys would quickly feel very resentful at having to share with two adults whist dss gets his own space.
Turning the living room into a bedroom for you and DH means a lack of privacy for you and a frequently unusable family area.

Your idea of a partition in the larger bedroom, esp if it is a IKEA partition with shelving is sensible. I would put bunk beds in each half. The two youngest get one each and dss gets a bed and a lounging area or simply more storage. The downstairs study could be kitted out as a gaming/studying room with a lock fitted so that it is clear that this is dss' private space and stops the younger ones getting in .
I think you are going to gently tell dss that the two younger boys cannot be pushed out. Whilst he does not want to share, there is no other option until you are able to get a larger property. Tell him he will get a locked private area of his own, which is more than anyone else has.
Good luck.

SleeplessInWherever · 31/12/2024 17:32

Fluufer · 31/12/2024 17:28

That poster means his own bed and storage. They obviously could, since they have now that they've been forced.

I think you’re all losing the plot. That space isn’t good enough, he doesn’t want to share with his siblings.

They did give him his own space, separate from his brothers.

He wouldn’t have wanted to share, which is part of this whole conversation.

So to give him his own permanent separate space they’d have had to have moved into the lounge full time, or moved house. Is that what you think they should have done for the sake of those 48 days?

SleeplessInWherever · 31/12/2024 17:32

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 31/12/2024 17:28

Then his father should have stopped at 2 children if he couldn't afford to provide a home for 3.

Right well he didn’t so we still need somewhere to put them all. Nobody here has a Time Machine 😂

rightinthedavinamccalls · 31/12/2024 17:34

SleeplessInWherever · 31/12/2024 14:13

I’m very sorry that you have some issue with blended families and step parents, possibly fathers too.

He was there a limited amount of time. They gave him their space when he was there. They didn’t have as many bedrooms as they did children. That’s life.

This poster has issues with all OPs it seems. There was a shocking thread yesterday where the OP has cancer...worst thread I've ever seen. I see a few of the same posters here.

Fluufer · 31/12/2024 17:36

SleeplessInWherever · 31/12/2024 17:32

I think you’re all losing the plot. That space isn’t good enough, he doesn’t want to share with his siblings.

They did give him his own space, separate from his brothers.

He wouldn’t have wanted to share, which is part of this whole conversation.

So to give him his own permanent separate space they’d have had to have moved into the lounge full time, or moved house. Is that what you think they should have done for the sake of those 48 days?

You realise we're not a hive mind with one singular opinion right?
They didn't give him his own space, at all ever. He didn't have a bed until now. Had he already been sharing with his brothers in his own bed, he wouldn't be so upset by the prospect now. They didn't, so now they've got a struggling teenager who doesn't even have a space he's familiar with in his dad house.
The fact that he saw so little of his son is frankly a separate issue. The bar is way too low for some of you...

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 31/12/2024 17:37

Puzzledandpissedoff · 31/12/2024 14:10

It's worth reading the updates, since we've learned OP and DH didn't even know the lad existed when they chose to have their two ... the "father" who his birth mum had foisted him onto found out he wasn't the father after all, so she looked for the next possibility and now seems to have dumped the poor boy completely

I do hope your DH has had a DNA test done OP? Obviously the lad's needs are paramount in this, and FWIW you appear to be doing your best in the circumstances, but you might as well be sure before turning yet more lives upside down

It's worth reading the updates, since we've learned OP and DH didn't even know the lad existed when they chose to have their two ..

They knew he existed before they had the 3rd child.

BlueSilverCats · 31/12/2024 17:37

Then his father should have stopped at 2 children if he couldn't afford to provide a home for 3.

Woulda , shoulda, coulda.

According to you and a lot of posters on this thread, we shouldn't have had DD either.

LetThereBeLove · 31/12/2024 17:38

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 31/12/2024 17:28

Then his father should have stopped at 2 children if he couldn't afford to provide a home for 3.

RTFT or even just the OPs updates! The youngest child was an accident and father has since had a vasectomy. Some posters are so judgemental 😡

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 31/12/2024 17:39

trendingdiscussion · 31/12/2024 14:04

d, I am just interested in what you think she should have done when she found out she was unexpectedly pregnant?

Ah yes “unexpectedly pregnant”

Yes, it's always "unexpectedly" .

SleeplessInWherever · 31/12/2024 17:41

Fluufer · 31/12/2024 17:36

You realise we're not a hive mind with one singular opinion right?
They didn't give him his own space, at all ever. He didn't have a bed until now. Had he already been sharing with his brothers in his own bed, he wouldn't be so upset by the prospect now. They didn't, so now they've got a struggling teenager who doesn't even have a space he's familiar with in his dad house.
The fact that he saw so little of his son is frankly a separate issue. The bar is way too low for some of you...

I’m not saying this again - he was there 4 days a month.

I personally would neither sleep in my front room full time, or pay an extra £400+ for a 3rd bedroom, for that level of access. It’s not feasible. Sharing is not the end of the world, usually. It’s certainly not indicative of shit parenting.

Can we all stop living in OPs past that we know nothing about now and try giving her some tangible advice that doesn’t involve going back in time?

SleeplessInWherever · 31/12/2024 17:43

rightinthedavinamccalls · 31/12/2024 17:34

This poster has issues with all OPs it seems. There was a shocking thread yesterday where the OP has cancer...worst thread I've ever seen. I see a few of the same posters here.

I was on that thread too and can’t work out if you mean me or not! 😅

But you’re right, there seems to be something in the judgmental water at the moment.

LetThereBeLove · 31/12/2024 17:44

IHaveNeverLivedintheCastle · 31/12/2024 17:39

Yes, it's always "unexpectedly" .

If you can't say anything nice (or useful in this case) fermez-la.

ruethewhirl · 31/12/2024 17:46

ByDeepOpalBalonz · 31/12/2024 12:15

Me and DP are both very high income and while I'm not surprised people don't plan things the attitude a lot of people have towards children is very disappointing.

They are meant to come first, if me and DP were in the same situation we wouldn't even consider putting him in the same bedroom as 2 much younger DC, it would be the very last resort.

Being uncomfortable sleeping in the lounge which is what we'd probably do would be just expected and the result of our own choices whereas for a lot of low income people their comfort seems to come first with kids almost being like second class citizens. They aren't.

Good grief. I don't disagree with your points, but did you mean your final paragraph to sound so breathtakingly snobby?

Willwetalk · 31/12/2024 17:51

Superhansrantowindsor · 31/12/2024 09:34

He needs your room. He’s already had his life flipped about. You need to find a way for a proper partition, give him your room or move. It is unreasonable to expect him to share with two much younger siblings.

So, four people in one room and one in the other?

NameChanger91736 · 31/12/2024 17:51

Superhansrantowindsor · 31/12/2024 17:24

I don’t get your fixation with what I wrote and the semantics. Acting like a spoilt brat/being a spoilt brat- whatever. You disagree with me and that’s fine. It’s the point of a forum to share opinions on what is posted. Accusing me of fake outrage is perplexing. You know nothing about me, my background, my perception of the situation based on my own personal circumstances , so why presume I have fake outrage?

Because you were being sanctimonious and it really irked me. And no, the first poster to comment didnt say he was being ungrateful.

KilkennyCats · 31/12/2024 17:53

What does your very high income have to do with anything, @ByDeepOpalBalonz ?
It seems to be shoehorned in to your post to no particular purpose.

Superhansrantowindsor · 31/12/2024 17:53

NameChanger91736 · 31/12/2024 17:51

Because you were being sanctimonious and it really irked me. And no, the first poster to comment didnt say he was being ungrateful.

Op said he was. I am not being sanctimonious. Of all the comments in this thread you pick on mine.

magicalmrmistoffelees · 31/12/2024 17:56

KilkennyCats · 31/12/2024 17:53

What does your very high income have to do with anything, @ByDeepOpalBalonz ?
It seems to be shoehorned in to your post to no particular purpose.

I think she’s the sort of person to shoehorn it into every conversation.

Sunholidays · 31/12/2024 17:58

BlueSilverCats · 31/12/2024 17:37

Then his father should have stopped at 2 children if he couldn't afford to provide a home for 3.

Woulda , shoulda, coulda.

According to you and a lot of posters on this thread, we shouldn't have had DD either.

And the birth mother shouldn't have been an incapable mother. And they shouldn't have gone for a 2 bed rental.

Washingupdone · 31/12/2024 17:58

Friends who lived in a bed sit had something on the lines of photos. Theirs had a good quality mattress and folded away with duvet. It could be an idea for you and DP

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