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DSS saying hasn’t got enough space in shared bedroom

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Tryingtoaccomodateeveryone · 31/12/2024 09:32

I’m trying my best to make it work and he’s being really ungrateful.

Me and dp have 2 ds (6 and 8) and dss is 15. 2 bed house (one very large bedroom one smaller that fits a double bed and one chest of drawers). Ds were sharing with 2 single beds in there and when dss stayed which used to be EOW me and dp would have the sofa bed downstairs.

Dss has now moved in with us so I got Ds 6 and 8 a bunkbed, a single bed for dss, a desk for dss, a small cupboard and cleared half the wardrobe so he had space for clothes. Put up 3 shelves for his things and used ikea shelves with storage boxes to partition half the room. It looks really nice. He’s furious . He wants our room as needs ‘privacy and quiet to study’.

My dc only use the room from 8-830pm each night as in the day they play downstairs. I’ve tried really hard to make this work (it was very last min due to an issue with dp ex).

I think it’s ok ? We can’t partition fully as renting. We can’t afford a bigger house so this is the best option. He thinks we should share a room with Ds 6 and 8 as wants his own space.

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Fluufer · 31/12/2024 10:58

I don't understand the strength of aversion to the sofa bed. Most adults don't use their bedrooms much during the day do they? Why isn't sofa bed and study dressing room a feasible option?
If OPs DC2 had been a girl, they wouldn't have her share with the 15yo boy would they?

Aberentian · 31/12/2024 10:59

Mumwithbaggage · 31/12/2024 10:47

It's very clear that many people on here don't understand trauma. Or children.

OP, I'd split the big bedroom for you and younger children, making a big plywood type screen with a "door" in it - they can decorate the back lego or otherwise style, you almost have privacy.

Not ideal but boys have their space, you have a sitting room. Making your dss feel valued and part of your family unit (as you clearly are) is what he needs. Safe, normal everyday life. I also think you're right that him having involvement and a say is important. Flowers

That's ridiculous. OP and her husband also need their own space.

I had to share a room with three much younger sisters till I was 18. I didn't like it but it didn't kill me. Would have loved to see my parents' face if I'd asked for their room.

cushionfiend · 31/12/2024 10:59

Hello - there are some really great ideas online about making temporary partitions in bedrooms for teenagers for rented properties. I would suggest that you and DH move into the smaller bedroom so you still have privacy and rest. Then the very large bedroom is partitioned so it has the bunk bed and clothes storage for your boys, and a single bed and clothes storage for your DSS. Then he has the study for homework, gaming, privacy. You sound like you're really doing your best to make this work for everyone.

CountZacular · 31/12/2024 10:59

I think you need to talk to social services and see whether getting in council housing is a solution. It’s not immediate but something needs to be done long term.

I don’t really know what the short term solution is but the poor boy needs a space alone to cry. He’s going to feel a whole range of emotions and he can’t vent them out without privacy. I feel so much for all of you in this situation but somehow the poor child needs some space to retreat alone. The study solution could work for now.

Good luck, OP.

NotaRealHousewife · 31/12/2024 11:00

CountZacular · 31/12/2024 10:59

I think you need to talk to social services and see whether getting in council housing is a solution. It’s not immediate but something needs to be done long term.

I don’t really know what the short term solution is but the poor boy needs a space alone to cry. He’s going to feel a whole range of emotions and he can’t vent them out without privacy. I feel so much for all of you in this situation but somehow the poor child needs some space to retreat alone. The study solution could work for now.

Good luck, OP.

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LochKatrine · 31/12/2024 11:00

Fluufer · 31/12/2024 10:58

I don't understand the strength of aversion to the sofa bed. Most adults don't use their bedrooms much during the day do they? Why isn't sofa bed and study dressing room a feasible option?
If OPs DC2 had been a girl, they wouldn't have her share with the 15yo boy would they?

DC2 wasn't a girl, that's a hypothetical scenario. The adult couple need comfort and privacy, and I don't see why a teenage boy's wants should over ride that.

JudgeJ · 31/12/2024 11:00

berksandbeyond · 31/12/2024 10:11

Agree. A man chose to have three children when he can only afford a 2 bedroom house. That's his fault - not the fault of the children!

What rubbish! The 'mother' chose to put it about a lot and when eventually the father was found he is the only one who has behaved decently towards the child. Do you spout such rubbish about women who have a multitude of children they cannot/will not support?

GretchenWienersHair · 31/12/2024 11:01

Washingforweeks · 31/12/2024 10:27

I’d invest in a comfier pull out bed and turn the living room into your bedroom. Me and DH did this until we could move. We bought an ottoman style sofa bed and the storage is where we put the bedding. Get a mattress topper too to lie on

This is also a good idea.

HPFA · 31/12/2024 11:01

Simonjt · 31/12/2024 10:09

I’m not sure why a family failing to meet their childrens needs is being portrayed as a good thing

Because otherwise we might have to think why we as a society have failed to build enough social housing?

BleepingBleepy · 31/12/2024 11:01

Nothing practical to add, but just to say you sound like a lovely step-mum, OP. Obviously, this is horrible for your partner's son, but it's very sweet to see you being so understanding and warm about him. I hope you manage to find a solution.

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 31/12/2024 11:02

You sound like a good stepmum OP, well done for trying your best.

As you say, he's acting out from frustration and anger over a situation he can't control with his mum.

Accommodate, but don't let rudeness slide as it will quickly take hold.

As for the gaming, if you believe he needs it, then a good way is to let him do chores for pocket money to sustain it.

A friend's 15 year old is a big gamer who travels for competitions. When he initially started, it was ok, but soon, the costs started adding up.
He was in charge of the dishwasher and taking the recycling out.

Little ones can also have jobs to make it fair. Little things like being incharge of putting stuff away.

Good luck.

Fluufer · 31/12/2024 11:03

LochKatrine · 31/12/2024 11:00

DC2 wasn't a girl, that's a hypothetical scenario. The adult couple need comfort and privacy, and I don't see why a teenage boy's wants should over ride that.

Yes, but they would have come up with a solution if she were a girl, so they could now. They were hoping they would get away without providing for the oldest... It's a shame but the adults failed, so they need to compromise imo. They've had years to work this out.

Usedphone · 31/12/2024 11:03

As a fellow stepmum, I think long term you definitely have to move house. Short term, well with all the trauma etc... I think I'd move to the living room. That was going to be when we were in a similar situation (without so much trauma).

Ezlo · 31/12/2024 11:03

FatsiaJaponicaInTheGarden · 31/12/2024 10:25

I think when this has been sorted I'd start another thread with the title of "how to support a traumatised ss who is moving in with us just before gcses" for a different type of response too.

Really? It's obvious OP is trying her damnest.

Treblechef · 31/12/2024 11:04

Simonjt · 31/12/2024 10:19

Yet they still had a third child, knowing they couldn’t house three children.

Stop being such a cow. The OP is doing the best she can in a difficult situation.

LochKatrine · 31/12/2024 11:04

Fluufer · 31/12/2024 11:03

Yes, but they would have come up with a solution if she were a girl, so they could now. They were hoping they would get away without providing for the oldest... It's a shame but the adults failed, so they need to compromise imo. They've had years to work this out.

They've got boys. That's it.
It doesn't sound like they've had "years" to work this out, I doubt they thought the ss would be living with them full time.

HPFA · 31/12/2024 11:05

midgetastic · 31/12/2024 10:48

Please all - they rent so they won't be building or extending

Around 310,000 childen are sharing a bed never mind a room in the uk

Sone people have no idea how others have to live

The OP may have thought that by now they could afford a larger home but rents have gone up so much that many families are stuck with too many children in small houses that are all they can afford

Affordable housing in the UK will mean either very strict rent control or just tons more council homes

Building more council housing wouldn't solve every social problem we have in the UK.

But there isn't any social problem that it wouldn't improve.

Right to buy and lack of investment in social housing has been an unmitigated disaster.

Nocameltoeleggingsplease · 31/12/2024 11:06

OP I really admire the way you are approaching this; you have understood that his ‘rudeness’ is a result of the situation and you are trying to find an acceptable solution while not being able to magic up another bedroom or a bigger house. I suppose from his initial perspective he did get your room EOW so why would it be different if he moved in full time? I think you have also understood that the way you have made the room look ‘nice’ is great for your younger two but not what a 15 year old needs. I respect that you haven’t told us why he has moved in with you as well. From what we already know, he’s been through a lot.
All you can do is keep communication open, as you are doing. Hopefully he’ll see you are on the same side. He’s probably scared you will both ‘get rid’ of him too.
Good luck.

oakleaffy · 31/12/2024 11:06

Superhansrantowindsor · 31/12/2024 09:34

He needs your room. He’s already had his life flipped about. You need to find a way for a proper partition, give him your room or move. It is unreasonable to expect him to share with two much younger siblings.

Why should @Tryingtoaccomodateeveryone and her partner give up their bedrooom for a teenager? to share with two young children? What about their sex life?

The room is partitioned so the teen has visual privacy.
There is a small room to use as a study area.

OooOk · 31/12/2024 11:06

What are the dimensions of the small study OP?

Fluufer · 31/12/2024 11:07

LochKatrine · 31/12/2024 11:04

They've got boys. That's it.
It doesn't sound like they've had "years" to work this out, I doubt they thought the ss would be living with them full time.

Parents should always plan to accommodate all their children. Hoping one wont live with you doesn't fly. but whatever, it's too late now, so parents need to be grown ups and compromise.

Treblechef · 31/12/2024 11:07

Tryingtoaccomodateeveryone · 31/12/2024 10:27

I’ll update later when they’ve talked and we have a decision

Ignore all the goady comments on here. Some people don't seem to have read the thread and realised how this situation has come about. You sound a really kind person and your SS is fortunate to have you in his corner.

MadameWombat · 31/12/2024 11:07

Just to add, if he keeps a proper bed in the younger boys bedroom, and has the study as his gaming space, see if you can squeeze a sleeping bag/mat in the study too so weekends/holidays when his sleep isn't too important he can have a bit more privacy.

Nc546888 · 31/12/2024 11:08

I really think he needs his own room. Either a small bed in the study, or give him the living room with sofa bed after 8pm and you go to your room to watch tv.

or you need to move house to a cheaper location with another bedroom

Wonderi · 31/12/2024 11:08

CountZacular · 31/12/2024 10:59

I think you need to talk to social services and see whether getting in council housing is a solution. It’s not immediate but something needs to be done long term.

I don’t really know what the short term solution is but the poor boy needs a space alone to cry. He’s going to feel a whole range of emotions and he can’t vent them out without privacy. I feel so much for all of you in this situation but somehow the poor child needs some space to retreat alone. The study solution could work for now.

Good luck, OP.

I agree.

For now, do up the study for just him.
Let him have a lock on it even.

Keep him in the bedroom as is for now and tell him that you will come up with a better solution.

In the meantime, contact the council and look for alternatives.

Having his own space in the study will be a huge thing for him and such a lovely thing to do.
He may not act appreciative right now, but he will be very thankful for it.

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