Thread 13 Starmer - facts are for lefties

[DuncinToffee]

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I saw this posted

Who knew St Michael was the patron saint of red tape

M&S CEO Archie Norman backed brexit so he must see the benefit

https://bsky.app/profile/jessicaelgot.bsky.social/post/3ldgo6wg77223

Speaker starts UQ reminding MPs they cannot criticise members of the Royal Family in the chamber...

‘People’ maybe - I couldn’t.
But the real issue would be haulage. It would put the price of everything up.

Its amazing how people who are have the benefit of the public purse have no accountability in this situation.

So much for freedom of speech.

It took nearly 400 years, but the Royalists won.

Yes this is ridiculous. It can be in the press but not in Parliament? Andrew is not a King. He has no constitutional function. Let him be criticized if needs be.

Quite honestly whether he can be criticised in Parliament or not is a very long way down my list of concerns. I’d just like some transparency around his behaviour and sources of income.

Fair point Blossom.

Yes does it really matter? considering the dire state of the UKs public services.

But Labour need to get their act together, Tories doing the rounds blaming Labour for this and the failure to implement a new security bill they say was ready to go.

I ve yet to hear Labour saying this guy operated under their very noses? and by calling the GE, they scuppered their own bill.....

https://news.sky.com/story/government-and-the-water-regulator-ofwat-broke-law-on-sewage-says-watchdog-13275228

Government and the water regulator Ofwat broke law on sewage, says watchdog

The various bodies could be taken to court if they don't fix the situation and now have two months to respond.

That is the previous government

And the Tories were about to "stop Chinese influence" but then the general election was called

https://bsky.app/profile/bestforbritain.bsky.social/post/3ldimx4ge622t

Last week, the government undertook some of the most wide-reaching policy initiatives we've seen in years. And hardly anyone seems to know a damn thing about it

https://archive.ph/Z9F3H

Finally, we've got a radical agenda from the Government
This is one of the most far-reaching governance projects we've seen in our lifetime

(iNews article https://inews.co.uk/opinion/finally-got-radical-agenda-government-3430160)

How could anyone defend this?

www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/dec/17/dozens-of-lords-defend-tory-peer-who-called-colleague-lord-poppadom

Thanks Duncin. Don't always see eye to eye with Dunt but I like this and agree with him that the ongoing hand wringing is getting to ridiculous levels.

Wait until the WASPI decision hits the media, will be ALL Labour's fault and the Tories were just about to launch a compensation scheme but along came an unforeseen General Election....

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/womens_rights/5232263-no-payout-for-waspi-women?reply=140612271&utm_campaign=reply&utm_medium=share

Oh very probably. Outrage on that thread already. 🙄

They can fuck right off. I’m a WASPI woman who never expected to get it.

I’m just chalking that one up to something Tories promised with no intention of fulfilling it. The fact it’s now Labour’s problem will be a bonus to them.

"I’m just chalking that one up to something Tories promised with no intention of fulfilling it. "

I think there is quite a long list of things that were "just about to get done but the election interrupted them".

Funny how they never ask themselves why the election was called early

Yep - a whole host of them starting from 2010

It is beginning to look a lot like the Tories took off , running for the hills when the decisions became very diificult for them to duck and they had run out of excuses.
So says the Waspi woman, WFA "missing out on " old dear that is me.
Guess what?
I would vote for Labour and their talent pool again and again because I love my younger family members and I love my country. We have to start paying ordinary working people a decent wage and stop the state having to make up the difference .

Older people who are suffering genuine hardship can now claim pension credit, which will open up many other benefits and they are being encouraged to do this.

I have my doubts about how well informed or otherwise people were - or claim they were.

I was looking briefly to buy a house with a friend after graduating (we had a brief window of multiple MIRAS which made it very lucrative).

Every estate agent (in those days they also sold mortgages) was pushing endowment mortgages as risk-free, double-your-money, you'd be a fool not to.

All the sort of language which immediately makes a room smell.

It was my friend who beat me to it with their question. And that simple piece of "research" meant there was no way on Gods green earth either of us would touch an endowment mortage again.

We were both 22 and fresh out of Uni (which was hardly Compton). If we could spot it was a scamsters paradise, then I really have little sympathy for those who got greedy with tales of buying yachts with the excess when the mortgage is paid off.

(See also the bollocks about stocks and shares ....)