Man United star refuses to wear rainbow shirt

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14156669/Man-United-scrap-plans-LGBT-rainbow-jacket-Noussair-Mazraoui.html

Wonder what Man U will do about this??

This wouldn't have happened if those footballers weren't put in this position. They are entirely blame free here.

Goodness, you're right, rock climbers are definitely as influential as footballers.

This is the crux of it for me.

I’m a practising Christian too and I support LGB people. But if you brought that misogynist pride flag into my church I would be deeply disturbed.

You need to educate yourself on what some of those letters actually stand for. What would Jesus do? He would not want to see women and children harmed by the Stonewall ideology promoted by your misplaced and naive allegiance.

@happyhoppy Whether that is stonewall to blame or society or both it doesn’t really matter but it’s a sad sign of the times that people think it’s ok to be so horrific.
footballers are an important influence to many people as are many others. Role modelling good behaviour is important, don’t wear the pride shirt, do wear it it doesn’t bother me. But this huge fall out is something that can be avoided with good comms around the situation.

This is what you said! The only people who are to blame are those who are pushing their beliefs onto unwilling participants.

@Happyhoppy15 no, it wasn't aimed at anyone. It was a general "you". Maybe i should have said one.
I do have to question your " nobody should be forced" stuff, when you're also complaining that this chap refused. Or have I misunderstood, and that really you're mad at the nasty things others have said since his refusal? So his refusal has somehow emboldened others to let rip. Does that make their horrific behaviour his fault?

It's funny how the tables have turned. Not so very long ago he would have been slated for his religious intolerance, particularly for being a muslim. Now, the tide has turned against Pride because of the trans element. People are just fed up of being lectured and told what to do and women are fed up with being gaslit. So now, in the battle of popularity a homophobic muslim footballer is more popular than the trans brigade. It's interesting how the tides are turning.

I’m not replying any more on this thread.

my original comments stand that I am saddened to see the acts of some of society which is mainly men since this situation happened.

I have not once said nor do I blame the footballer for the behaviours of others. Nor have I complained that he has refused.

The thing is there is loads of homophobia in football, and somehow the rainbow laces and whatever haven't done anything to change that. Possibly they need a new approach.

Turning big time. The lgb community desperately need to break away from the tq brigade as quickly as they can.

Yes stop forcing the rainbow on unwilling participants would be a start!

What horrific behaviour is being exhibited exactly?
You keep reiterating footballers have influence! So what? It's up to them how they choose to use their influence & where they want to direct it.

I suspect most footballers just want to play bloody football and stash their cash away tax free, take their families on holiday and get on with their lives. Spend time with mates, watch movies and eat out. I doubt many dream of trotting round the pitch in a top that represents political issues, whatever the flavour. They're footballers.

@Happyhoppy15 You misunderstood me. My comment was about the fact that with more Muslims will mean less bullying of Muslims and yes less forcing and bullying people to promote something they don't believe in. I am very pro-LGB, but there is something truly ugly and horrific in the lack of religious intolerance and the Islamophobia that the LGBT (mainly T) activists are promoting. And the bullying of anyone who does not feel comfortable advertising their political beliefs. NO ONE should be forced to go against their beliefs, whether it be religious beliefs, or LGB beliefs.

Wait.... what?!?? I can tell you the posts that I have seen which are mostly from black and brown men is absolutely disgusting

Wow. Wtf?!??? 😦😡 What a disgracefully RACIST thing to say! I am truly horrified and disgusted that you even typed that, and pressed send!

Agree. I often wonder why they didn't do this ages ago. Is there something big stopping them or is it that the LGBs will be tarred as anti trans and be prosecuted for discrimination, or whatever other Sword of Damocles that Stonewall has over their heads.

On what grounds would a split be against the Equality laws and be considered discrimination though? age, disability, gender reassignment, marriage and civil partnership, pregnancy and maternity, race, religion or belief, sex, sexual orientation?

The obvious one is gender reassignment. But if anyone can pay a few quid to get a GRC without reassignment, what is it all about? Maybe trans and Q++ are new religions and beliefs - that's a possibility I suppose - or something.

I often wonder what the reason is for them sticking together. Maybe I am just not familiar enough with such things and my apologies if I am not up to speed on the Equality legislation, or the reasons for LGBTQ++ or if I have offended anyone.

Exactly @CocoapuffPuff That's what they signed up for ... wearing hideous rainbow coats was not part of the deal 🤣
It's actually insane to think that this was actually asked of them...

This! 🌈

I’m gay and I don’t judge anyone either but do you think I’d wear an armband in support of Islam? Of course I wouldn’t. I am tolerant of Muslims but I fundamentally disagree with many of their beliefs.

I think people are generally getting a bit sick of “woke”.

Ah no! No group or religion should push their beliefs onto others. Well done to this man for saying No. Many ,many more will now do the same.
Being forced or coerced into flying a flag or wear the rainbow is not solidarity!

Forcing people to wear a political statement that goes against their entire faith and philosophy is bullying, and isn't letting people 'live in peace'. Blame the activists who will ostracise those who don't comply, for causing us all to get sick of it.

You are attacking the wrong people.

Pushing a belief? A belief of tolerance?