Man United star refuses to wear rainbow shirt

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14156669/Man-United-scrap-plans-LGBT-rainbow-jacket-Noussair-Mazraoui.html

Wonder what Man U will do about this??

And they do make allowances - as I said above the Liverpool Club man of the match is sponsored by Carlsberg and after every match the recipient is given a trophy and it is on social media - for Mo Salah the Carlsberg is removed from the award and the tweets etc.

Gambling sponsorship is rightly stopping as well because it is a dangerous thing and shouldn’t be promoted to young children

plus they are not on the Man Utd jersey - it is wearing it yourself (as I said the Ipswich captain refused the banner)

the thing is everyone should be welcome at a football match but forcing things should not be the way forward

Everyone would be welcome if no one cause was over promoted.

I hate rainbow this/rainbow that and never bought my nephews anything with a rainbow on it. It is sometimes hard finding anything without a blasted rainbow on it. Let people believe in what they want but let other people do without a bloody rainbow on everything!

It is true. Betfred sponsor Man Utd. I didn't say I was against him taking whatever position he chooses, but it's bollocks to hide behind religion as the reason.

Like the kick out racism campaign excludes racists?

@MonkeyToHeaven they aren’t the short sponsor they are the betting partner - Snapdragon is on this years kit and team
viewer was before.

most teams tend to shy away from gambling/drinks for this reason. As I said Liverpool is no longer Carlsberg on the front just as a side sponsor

Mazraoui is also known as being a devout muslim and he was going to get a huge backlash whatever decision be made - making a personal choice not to wear it to follow his religion is fine - we have to respect his religious beliefs even if we don’t agree with them

the fact no one wore them was the team standing in solidarity with their teammate the captain still wore the armband as per the other teams

thr Club should have thought this through and not created the situation which was optional within the campaign itself

So if you don’t believe being gay is a choice, why cite that?

I’ve had a word with myself. I’ve reminded myself that we are a country striving for equality which allows same sex marriages and should welcome gay footballers in the womens’ and mens’ game. There are also people in some parts of the world who risk their lives by being gay, this is why as a nation we need to show solidarity.

I am not attacking anyone. I’ve also reminded myself that there are gay and lesbian muslim groups. There are also gay and lesbian christian groups.

Or - he’s against men taking the places of women in sports teams and causing terrible injuries when they do.

Fair points. But nobody has to respect his religious beliefs if they're bollocks.

There are other bollocks we have every right not to accept too. I presume he’s exercising his right to reject them.

Why should he have to. If he doesn't feel comfortable with this

That is extremely disrespectful and Islamophobic. How would you feel if they described gay rights or gay marriage as 'bollocks'? If you can't give respect, don't expect respect for your beliefs.

Sounds like the right decision was made eventually by the club.
I'd refuse to wear it too, I'm not religious and I'm not homophobic.
I just don't go to work and expect political propaganda to be something forced upon me when it has absolutely zero to do with my job.

Supporting gay rights is not political propaganda. Equality for gay people is not political. Encouraging diversity and equality in the game is part of a player’s job. Fortunately the womens’ game has more openly lesbian players but the game for both sexes has a long way to go.

Calling gay rights political is in itself homophobic.

UK football is on the world stage, it is important to show we care.

And there are lots of gay muslims out there who need support too.

Forcing players to demonstrate allegiance to a cause their beliefs don’t support is political.

I believe in science. I would not wear a rainbow because I do not believe that people can change sex (for obvious reasons) or that men should be anywhere near women’s spaces. I support bay rights, but the rainbow doesn’t allow for that - and that’s the consequence of lumping the TQ belief system in with sexuality.

If? They do, and worse than bollocks, homosexuality is considered a crime punishable by death in some Muslim countries. It's also not my "belief" that homosexuality isn't a crime in the UK, or that gay marriage or rights exist, it's a fact.

So, I'd either ignore, challenge or criticise them. I certainly wouldn't issue a fatwa or execute them for heresy.

When religious beliefs don't meet the Grainger test, they have no protection in law either.

But no one should be forced to do something that is in effect optional - it is a work uniform, it isn’t a vital part of his job it is entirely optional and his right to say no to it should be respected

the fact that his teammates agreed to support him speaks volumes as well

all of it is just pointless virtue signalling anyway - especially considering that Man Utd what to cut 50% of the funding to their disabled association and the 20% ticket rise for disabled fans

I actually don't think it matters a jot WHY someone refuses to wear a "not part of the team kit" garment.
Non uniform items should be (and clearly are) an option, not an obligation.

Seriously, this dictatorship stuff has to stop. If we're to accept bobbies on the beat jigging around in rainbow togs at pride, because they've opted in to do that, then we also have to accept football players (or bobbies) opting out.

Is it personal choice or is it not? You canny have it both ways.

Sheesh.

I wouldn't wear it either

Official FA policy here https://www.thefa.com/football-rules-governance/policies/equality/lgbt-football#:~:text=Because%20as%20the%20guardian%20of,game%2C%20its%20participants%20and%20supporters

UK is free country let's him.wear what he want to wear. What mean refuse? Is this obligatory to weat rainbow shirts?

@StarlightLady I consider it political, you don't, that's fine, I'm not into policing others views.

The footballers could take the knee instead? That seems much more inclusive? “protest against discrimination, injustice and inequality” that covers everyone's rights not just LBGTQ. That feels more appropriate.

I just did what I accused someone else of! (Quoted wrong person). Edited to confess my sins!

But not being unwilling to promote gay rights (due to religious belief) isn’t the same thing as wanting same sex couples to be persecuted.

It’s perfectly possible to hold beliefs at odds with the current UK law without persecuting or harming others (eg my beliefs are that there should be no bishops in the HoL, which obvs isn’t in agreement with the law. I don’t think the ‘Lords Spiritual’ should be persecuted tho).

You clearly have a prejudice against people who follow the Muslim faith which is your right, as long as you don’t persecute Muslims or incite hatred against them.

Rights should go both ways. For example I am not Muslim so my rights is I not have to fast in Ramadan even if this upset Muslims who may be hungry at day time and same Muslims not have to waer rainbow shirts because it will upset the LGBT