Man United star refuses to wear rainbow shirt

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14156669/Man-United-scrap-plans-LGBT-rainbow-jacket-Noussair-Mazraoui.html

Wonder what Man U will do about this??

Forced wearing of anything bar the standard kit is unacceptable. Doesn't matter why the individual declined to wear a top that is not the standard kit. If the standard kit were a rainbow top, that's different. It's not.

Honestly this "if you're not 100% with us then you must be against us 100%" extremism has to stop at some point. Why does it have to be full boot-licking submission to be good enough? Nuts.

It has stopped that's why these activists & NGOs are buckling down harder.

Forced compliance and support are not the same thing. Forcing people to pretend to be supportive actually undermines progress towards true acceptance.

I think UK law does a a reasonable job of balancing sexual orientation and religious belief (ie that same sex marriage is equal to opposite sex marriage in all meaningful ways but religious orgs are not compelled to carry out marriage ceremonies for same sex couples) but we deffo don’t want to get any closer to compelled speech (fake support) or compelled silence (blasphemy) laws.

Pretending that all protected characteristics fit together without clashing does none of us any good, especially not the teenagers who are growing up in conservative/orthodox religious households and struggling with emergent same sex attraction.

They need to know that the law will protect them but they may need to step away from their family and community in order to pursue relationships that accord with their sexual orientation.

it’s a shit situation but hiding the clashes in competing rights behind rainbows, mermaids and glitter does no good for anyone in the long term.

Stonewall overreached in workplaces up and down the country by ‘getting in front of’ anticipated law changes that haven’t happened (Self ID for transgender people). Seems like the Rainbow Laces campaign is now spiralling the drain due to similar over reach.

Stonewall have destroyed their own reputation and become a hindrance for LGB & T people, not a positive contributor.

Good for him at least he's got the balls to say no.

That's an excellent way of wording it @ChaChaChooey "forced compliance" & the world has had enough of being told what to do & what to think on every issue from pride to climate change

At the end of the day it is this footballers choice , his decision should be respected. Football is a sport, it is no place for social or political activism.
Nor is it the place for insincere virtue signalling when a person does not want to advocate for the cause that's been pushed upon him

Would you rather have genuine support from those who will truly fight your corner, or resigned and grudging wearing of a rainbow cos you have to, before it's flung in a corner and trodden on?
If its the latter, this isn't about support. It's about grabbing power.

It is different though isn’t it - he cannot control what his employers do - and no Muslim could be employed if we follow that logic.

as I said gambling on shirts is hugely problematic and indeed banned from 2026 but beyond wearing the work kit (which is the football kit) anything else should be optional in all work places

everyone should be allowed autonomy over optional choices - making things like this compulsory is part of the problem

I think your ire is misplaced. Stonewall is the architect of its own misfortune and has led us to this pass.

People's comments here are not representative of the country as a whole. MN is anonymous. However people ARE entitled to dislike the modus operandi of Stonewall, which inevitably leads to the opposition of forced compliance as a pp so eloquently put it.

Objecting to forced compliance does not equate to homophobia.

Privacy of thoughts is very important. Most people are either supportive or indifferent to the LGBT issue unless it leads the reduction or erasure of the rights of women and an objector's right to privacy of thought.

Do you mean that post was on here?

I don't support that view either

I would like the place of work for anyone to be free from forced activism

Whether it's football or any place of work, people need to have the choice. If it's using pronouns or wearing a flag

The statement is they do not want to wear the shirts & they should never have been put in this position!

If you want to point the finger blame the organisation who tried to enforce this on the players! This has backfired on those who tried to enforce virtue signalling activism.

I'm delighted as now millions of children , teens & young adults will say no to flags, laces & posters if they do not align or support a cause . Which is their perogative to do so. This man & those who stand with him will be role models to those who feel oppressed by virue signallers about any cause, there is plenty more besides lgbtq+

No sports man or woman should be expected to wear something that's political.
Why is it only seems to be footballers, cricket or rugby players.
No one is expecting the darts, snooker or even rock climbing to show allegiance to different groups.

Get a grip of yourself . How entitled are you?

The King of England is hugely paid & has massive influence but no-one is expecting him or Camilla to go around donning rainbow coats or shirts!!!!

There's not a lot of anti-Alzheimer-ism in football, as far as I'm aware.

An awful lot of ex footballers suffer from Alzheimers, particularly early onset Alzheimers so maybe they should have an awareness campaign and fundraising for that.

You said they are paid & have important influence. It is entitled that you feel they should wear something that they don't want to to virtue signal.

As I said Charles & Camilla are paid & have massive influence. Why don't you tell them to go out & wear rainbow shirts & coats.

You'll be told to go sling your entitled hook as the royal family don't do political activism nor should footballers be expected to!

Wear your own rainbow shirt but don't expect anyone else to against their will!

As do rugby players.

The thing as, any closeted gay lads in the dressing room are already well aware that Rainbow armbands are meaningless and that team mates forced to wear them will not magically become supporters of gay rights.

Rainbow Laces Campaign has always been a pointless virtue signal, all that’s happened this week is for the signal to visibly and publicly fail.

I really do care about the well being of young same sex attracted people, especially those who are existing in cultures where they feel unable to come out (whether that be Football culture or an Orthodox family or anything else) but Stonewall’s model of forced compliance hasn’t helped those young people, it’s at best done nothing, and at worse, it’s hurt them.
What it has done is make lots of very well paid jobs at Stonewall.

To use a Wizard of Oz ism, paying no attention to the man behind the curtain doesn’t make the man behind the curtain stop existing. Making the curtain a rainbow colour doesn’t change that.

My BIL is gay. He doesn't get why there needs to be a song and dance about being gay when they just wanted to be treated the same as anyone else.

Look at what is happening women in Afghanistan, they can't speak out in public any longer, no longer allowed train as nurses or midwives...

To me this is a huge concern that should be widely condemned but I still don't think it's the job of footballers or any sportsperson to do during their sporting event.

What they choose to advocate for in their own time is their perogative