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I can't cope with depressed brother being so reliant on me. Feel like a bitch for saying that.

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inigomontoyahwillcox · 02/12/2024 05:47

I'm so sorry - this going to be so long - but I need to get this out. I'm up with this awful cough/chest infection which makes it impossible to lie down and sleep. Been ill since last Tuesday. Have had virtually no sleep since then. Pretty sure a lot of you will think I'm a heartless cow, but I'm getting to my wits end.

Context. My brother (quite significantly older than me) has suffered from depression since he was a teen. He has been on antidepressants since then, except for a couple of occasions when he's taken himself off them for one reason or another, which have ended up in disaster. He lives about 2.5 hours away from me.

For some years now he has been spending more and more time at my house with my DH, DD and I. He lives alone and came to stay with us during lock down, and has often come to stay with us, sometimes for weeks, off and on since then when he's feeling low or had a crappy couple of weeks (e.g. work stress). I've always said to him of course he can come, how can I not, but he's often then stayed and stayed, prolonging his stay without discussing it with me - just declaring he's not going to go home for another week at the end of his planned stay.

He has a fantastic job in the civil service, but has had lot and lots of absences for various ailments over the past couple of years and they are understandably getting serious about his attendance. He seems to think this is very unfair and how they just don't understand. I've tried gently - but seriously - to explain that you can indeed be dismissed for repeated or lengthy absences.

In May this year he started getting some odd physical symptoms - balance issues/vertigo mainly (other very vague things like feeling cold, and out of it) - I rushed down there to him when this initially happened as he took himself to hospital thinking he was having a stroke. Ultimately anything serious was ruled out and after taking him to a few appointments for some further checks I drove him back to mine to stay. He decided that these symptoms were due to his antidepressant (that he'd been on for 15 years), so agreed with his GP to reduce his dose to an incredibly small one (questionable that it was even therapeutic anymore - it was 1/4 of the starting dose, he had been on double the starting dose for 15 years). His physical symptoms did clear up eventually - he put this down to this reduction in his antidepressants - I wasn't so convinced. I also voiced my concern that he was now effectively not on antidepressants and we all know how that had ended up in the past and that he needed to push to try another antidepressant if he didn't want to go back to his old one.

He eventually went back home and to work, and was there for a few months until he started experiencing stomach issues, now diagnosed as IBS (which I know is not fun - I've had it for years myself) and yet again took himself off work. He was working with his GP and a dietician and put on the FODMAP diet which he's still on. Again, he came to ours for a few weeks. His work were getting very ancy by this time and he started to do some hours remotely from ours as he had no choice. Eventually he went home again, he was home for a week only then for his depression to increase so I told him to get an emergency appointment with his GP who told him to double his dose last week. Well all hell broke loose (assuming side effects of increasing the dose). I've been ill for a couple of months now with all these bloody relentless viruses (also been very anemic for a lot longer and recently had a couple of infusions and currently undergoing tests to find out why - so you can imagine how rough I've been feeling), but last Tuesday I came down with proper flu (raging temp etc.) and have been in bed since and have been mainly off work (doing work when needed from bed). I never take time off work, honestly have to be at deaths door - have subsequently developed a chest infection and am on antibiotics. Got a call from my brother at 5:30am on Wednesday with him feeling awful saying I needed to drive down and collect him, after explaining I couldn't as I was ill asked to speak to DH and asked him to go. I said to DH that he couldn't, he had work plus he was helping me out with a work event in the evening which I obviously couldn't attend any more but he still needed to arrange some stuff and be there for a short while. I put my foot down and said he had to either drive, get the train or wait until we could drive to him and if he was in crisis to call his local crisis team immediately. He eventually said he would drive as he couldn't fit all the stuff he wanted to bring in a backpack so the train was out (so he'd get obviously decided at that point he was coming for a while).

Since he's been with us he has been waking me up every morning at silly-o'clock (e.g. 5-6), as he's been experiencing massive anxiety. I've been woken up three times now to him standing in our bedroom crying and saying he can't cope. I am getting about 2 hours of sleep per night due to this chest infection anyway, and have usually only just dropped off when he's waking me up. At this rate I'm never going to get better. DH had to stop him coming into our bedroom the other day when I had eventually managed to doze off. Anyway, called the local out of hours crisis team yesterday morning and sat with him whilst he spoke to them, they're seeing him this morning and have told him to register as a temporary patient at my local GP and they are hopefully going to make a plan going forward - e.g. moving to a new antidepressant (I hope). On the phone he said to them he was going to stay with me indefinitely (no discussion with me) and can't see himself doing his job for some months.

In the past when he's had a crisis like this he's decamped to our parents who look after him for months whilst he recovers and he finds a new job - but he's decided that he finds it too stressful to stay with them (they're getting on now as well). I can see what is going to happen. He is going to loose his job, loose his rented flat as a result and have nowhere to live but here with us. So, unemployed, living with us indefinitely. And what choice do I have?

It's really stressful when he stays with us - just the whole dynamic/routine of the household goes out the window. He has always been single and as a result his life revolves around himself, he spreads himself and his things around the house, and changes/moves/breaks thing (little things, but they all add up) and gets argumentative when I ask him not to do something. My home just doesn't feel like my home anymore; I can't spend evenings chilling out lying on the sofa in front of the telly with DH, as we often do, he's often lying on the sofa watching TV himself, he smokes although takes himself outside but his clothes smell of smoke. He is in our small spare room (well, he's on the sofa tonight for some reason) which we had just recently decked out as DD's study as her bedroom isn't really big enough for a desk; she's finishing her mocks tomorrow and has her GCSEs in May - she has ADHD and it's been incredibly challenging for her academically, but we'd really turned a corner recently and she's determined to get into 6th form, I'm so worried all of this is going to upheave her, stress her out and affect her performance; she's been so proud of her achievements recently and I think if she does badly now what little confidence she'd recently gained will disappear.

I am pretty sure a straw will break the camel's back and I will end up loosing it with him at some point, or just getting incredibly stressed and ill (stress usually manifests itself physically with me as I just try to ignore it and push on through - I've had my own mental health battles). But how can I effectively abandon my depressed brother? I love him dearly, and want him to be well, but he's come to rely on me so heavily that it's becoming too much. He's really not helped himself; taking so much time off work for spurious reasons and now he really needs the time off they are challenging him and his job is in jeopardy; him not taking my advice about not going cold turkey on the antidepressants without a plan to start a new one; just the assumption that we can constantly put our lives on hold. DH is being incredibly understanding - but I can even see him getting frustrated by my brother over the past few months. DH also had a huge mental breakdown last year and attempted suicide twice, he's only just got back on some sort of even keel about 6 months ago but is still recovering. Jesus, what if HE ends up breaking down again and then I've got 2 men in crisis to look after?! I've got my own full time stressful job to do as well, plus a neurodivergent daughter to keep on track. I'm terrified! I honestly don't know what to do for the best. He has very good friends but they don't live in the same city as him, but other than them and my parents, we're all he has.

What the fuck do I do?

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CatHole · 22/12/2024 12:00

And so sorry to hear about the PTSD @inigomontoyahwillcox it hit one of my loveliest friends, completely floored her but like you she scrambled back up.
It was awhile ago now but we talked about it recently. It feels like it happened in a different lifetime to a different person. Her now teenage children would never recognise that time.
At the time the support wasn't bad but I hope there's more research now.

Cockerpooslave · 26/12/2024 22:28

I hope you had a peaceful Christmas @inigomontoyahwillcox with no new drama from your brother. Stay strong in 2025!

inigomontoyahwillcox · 27/12/2024 11:33

Thank you @Cockerpooslave - It did, just the 3 of us and it was heavenly.

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NotbloodyGivingupYet · 27/12/2024 11:57

Merry Christmas OP x

StartupRepair · 27/12/2024 20:20

So pleased OP. You needed some restorative peaceful time as a family.

TervenAcademicals · 08/03/2025 16:46

@inigomontoyahwillcox I do hope things are settled for you now and all is well with you 🌹

Boomer55 · 08/03/2025 17:00

Neither OP or her parents are responsible for her brother. He needs to get help and sort it out himself

inigomontoyahwillcox · 08/03/2025 17:00

Thanks for asking @TervenAcademicals.

My brother is still at his flat and not doing great. He's been under the crisis team but they're now transferring his care over to the community MH team. He seems to think he's not any better, but I spoke to the crisis team a few days ago and they do seem to think he is improving (hence them transferring his care). The main issue now I think is that he is isolated as he's not going out at all, not even to the day centre he has access to. I told him that he does need to try to engage with others (when he was in the residential unit he was lots better as he was around others) and also asked if his GP had a social prescriber, but it seems that he's already on the radar as a social worker went to see him the next day. So that's good.

I am checking in periodically, he doesn't answer his phone anymore but does respond to texts usually, just very short, sometimes one word, answers. My parents are on the phone to me a lot if they're not able to get in touch with him on text, but there's only so much I can do. If he goes completely off the radar the only option I've really got is to either call the mental health team or worst case scenario ask for a welfare check. But I am somewhat keeping my distance as I really just needed a breather.

Unfortunately I'm ill, have been for about a month now, had a nasty throat infection but also a massive flare up of a digestive thing that also affects my heart (still being investigated). Currently only able to eat one small meal a day and that's usually coming back up. So am exhausted and drained. I told DH that I knew I was going to get sick - that's how my body deals with stress.

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Daleksatemyshed · 08/03/2025 18:16

I'm sorry you're ill again Op but you're quite right, there's been so much stress in your life your body just tries to shut you down for your own good. I hope you'll just give in and be unavailable for a while, bugger work, bugger housework, just let yourself rest

Pompeyssy · 08/03/2025 19:48

OP, mind yourself and keep your distance, even with yoir parents if necessary.

TervenAcademicals · 08/03/2025 20:36

Sending love to you @inigomontoyahwillcox, you've had so much to deal with and it's still ongoing. Please prioritise yourself and your immediate family, you aren't responsible for everyone else around you and you matter xx

Ownyourchoices · 09/03/2025 05:26

Look after yourself OP. And if your parents give you grief, tell them firmly that you matter too.

ACatNamedRobin · 09/03/2025 13:06

Pompeyssy · 08/03/2025 19:48

OP, mind yourself and keep your distance, even with yoir parents if necessary.

Agree with this OP.
Stop answering your parents' calls / messages - i.e. if you usually speak daily, do it every other day etc.

pooperscoops · 11/03/2025 19:18

You've done everything you can - let the experts and professionals do their thing.

Please take cre of yourself - seems you have a lot to restore with your own health. Your DD and immediate family need to be your priority for joy and calm which will help you.

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