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Gregg Wallace responds with “A handful of comments from middle class women of a certain age”

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Conniebygaslight · 01/12/2024 09:04

Just heard his comments on the news….unbelievable.

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Greenkindness · 01/12/2024 10:06

I worked in a very male dominated firm in my 20s, often the only woman. I got loads of awful “banter”, I complained, nothing was done. I needed the job to pay my rent etc do I hung on. I lacked confidence. I didn’t have back up. Even my friends said well why don’t you go and work in a shoe shop (as an example of a female dominated work environment). It’s not always so easy to just leave or make a massive fuss.

This is what Kirsty Wark was saying. She wasn’t financially dependent on being on the show but lots of people were. People who worked on the show in production etc needed the job to pay bills. We don’t know all the ins and outs. But there’s many reasons why this sort of thing persists.

midgetastic · 01/12/2024 10:08

No I am not saying at all that he isn't guilty - quite the opposite

I was trying to think about humour in general - what makes something funny as opposed to offensive - how could we explain to middle class men of a certain age and intelligence level what would be funny and what would be offensive

And one strand would be how much does your "humor" rely on the other person / for example if your humour is targeted at lesbians and you are not lesbian then why are you making that joke ?

So anything that involves another person in your humour attempt you should thing again

LizzieSiddal · 01/12/2024 10:13

“Women of a certain age” have absolutely NO fucks left to give and are great at pointing out FACTS.
Wallace is a nasty, bigoted misogynist and will be moving to GB News in 3.2.1….

Aroastdinnerisnotahumanright · 01/12/2024 10:13

midgetastic · 01/12/2024 09:55

When does it become offensive?

When people feel it's targeted at them personally ? When people feel it's being used to intimidate?

Comedy is difficult but think how different it feels when a comedian takes the piss out of themselves as opposed to other people

Certainly the groping and nudity 🙄

whatcanthematterbe81 · 01/12/2024 10:15

RenoDakota · 01/12/2024 09:25

Can't stand Gregg Wallace and think he is a creepy, misogynist prick.
But ... I gave up watching Bake Off because of the constant, stupid, puerile sexual innuendo. Why is that not subject to the same scrutiny?

Spot on!

Peony15 · 01/12/2024 10:15

He's on his 4th wife.
Aged 60.
Find men/women who keeping changing /marrying / living with partners at regular intervalls / have multiple kids by multiple partners " interesting ".
As in , why do they have no staying power ( no
pun intended Gregg 😂 ) ?
Always the other persons fault they leave guess.
Never watch his show(s) so no idea what he's like in person but that comment at his age is so immature, pathetic and shows zero
self awareness.
Give it a day or two and he'll declare he has some medical condition , the new get out of bad behaviour card that seems de rigueur these days.

Threewheeler1 · 01/12/2024 10:15

😮😡
Is he taking the piss??
What a massive offensive shit he is

FamilyPhoto · 01/12/2024 10:15

MidnightPatrol · 01/12/2024 09:22

What an absolute twat.

You took the words right out of my mouth.

DrZaraCarmichael · 01/12/2024 10:15

He needs a refund from whoever is advising him on PR.

Greenkindness · 01/12/2024 10:15

I think that if the humour leaves a person feeling humiliated (I got pushed for a reaction a lot to gross sexual comments to make other workers laugh) rather than in on the joke, it’s not on. They were like racist jokes. The people knew I was young, and junior. They were neither. I tried to ignore it, do put downs, nothing worked. I just asked not to work with some people. No one called them out.

Class had nothing to do with it for my experience. I was just weak and an easy target. There were more of them than there were of me. Plus one guy in particular was a senior manager.

Thinking back I did get some support from men with daughters my age. But people don’t want to rock the boat. They needed one guy in particular to manage a department.

Sandandsea123 · 01/12/2024 10:15

TitusMoan · 01/12/2024 09:06

His lawyer’s Sunday breakfast has just been ruined 😀

😂😂😂😂😂😂

LadyLapsang · 01/12/2024 10:17

Thankfully the world has largely moved on from this type of behaviour at work, but it was commonplace. Of course it is his contemporaries who are calling him out, the young, junior staff don’t want to lose their livelihoods.

mumda · 01/12/2024 10:17

Poor behaviour and poor management at show levels and then poor layers of management above that. If it's true the number of complaints is actually really high then the people who've allowed it to continue need sacking.
All of them.

Nomorethanthree73 · 01/12/2024 10:17

He's basically saying, "of the 2000 or so women that I worked with, only 13 have made complaints - why is nobody talking about the women that I didn't sexually harass?!" What a cock.

JaneAustensHeroine · 01/12/2024 10:17

He’s ignorant. No self-awareness whatsoever.
He’s not a comedian. He’s not Ricky Gervais. He might want to be but he’s really not. He’s not clever or smart enough. He’s just a vile little man with no moral compass surrounded by ‘yes people’ who have allowed him to continue in his line of work and a very, very effective agent.

Bbq1 · 01/12/2024 10:17

pinkdelight · 01/12/2024 09:10

Trying to line himself up as a hero for men who hate us. Depressing but probably his best career move at this point.

What does that even mean? Any normal man is disgusted by GW. The "men who hate us" are hardly going to look to him as a hero!! I also don't feel that men, as a homogeneous mass hate women. I've never felt that.

BitOutOfPractice · 01/12/2024 10:17

When some men are revealed to be vile sex pest misogynist abusers you’re vaguely surprised.

Greg Wallace? Not so much! we all knew didn’t we?

I cannot believe his defence is “it was only 13 complaints, and they were all from dried up old bints anyway so who cares?”

viques · 01/12/2024 10:18

I am so upset about this new level of GWankery.

It makes me feel very grubby to think that had I ever been on any of the Masterchefs I might, as a middle class, middle aged woman, been right in the preferred cohort for his unbridled lusty comments.

Fortunately for my self esteem there is no possibility of me qualifying for a place as a celebrity, a professional or a home cook with unrealistic ambitions , but I do feel I have dodged a bullet, so stand in solidarity with the middleclass women of a certain age who have spoken out, and all the other women who for their own reasons haven’t.

What GW fails to realise that it is easier for middle class women of a certain age to stand up to pervy little men like him, because we have loud articulate voices, are used to people listening to us, and most importantly have nothing to lose by speaking out. Very different if you are an 20 year old intern, or a very junior person in their first job, or on a fixed term contract, or so embarrassed that someone who you assumed was professional behaved like scum.

Greenkindness · 01/12/2024 10:19

midgetastic · 01/12/2024 09:55

When does it become offensive?

When people feel it's targeted at them personally ? When people feel it's being used to intimidate?

Comedy is difficult but think how different it feels when a comedian takes the piss out of themselves as opposed to other people

The comedian has their own permission to take the piss out of themselves. No one asked me if I was ok with all the jokes. I think I clearly wasn’t. And I couldn’t help being female and younger. I was just in a weak position and other people let him carry on.

FlabbergastedByTheGorgons · 01/12/2024 10:19

OdeToBarney · 01/12/2024 09:29

Nice bit of victim blaming and DARVO by the pigg that is Gregg Wallace.

Pigg 😂

LlynTegid · 01/12/2024 10:19

Please do not watch any show he is on, be it new or a repeat on one of the channels that shows old shows.

Hopefully they will then be taken off air and he will not get any repeat fees if they are part of the contract he signed.

BitOutOfPractice · 01/12/2024 10:20

Or @Peony15 hell claim he’s a sex addict 🙄

WillowTit · 01/12/2024 10:20

bake off will have to be careful

Meemeows · 01/12/2024 10:20

He is vile. I know several people who have met him professionally and all confirm that he is a self-important, misogynistic bully who thinks he is superior to everyone else.

NoBinturongsHereMate · 01/12/2024 10:21

MarliaST · 01/12/2024 09:52

I agree. When does humour and innuendo become offensive?

Alison Hammond jumping on the back of Dylan wasn't appropriate

Yes, I thought that one crossed a line.

On the whole, though, I think the Bake Off innuendo is quite different - and certainly under the original presenting team that started the tradition. Not to everyone's taste of course, but it's for the most part childish rather than genuinely sexual - sniggering at the phrase 'firm buns' when clearly talking about the baking, rather than commenting on the person; wordplay, not nudity.

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