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The grown-ups have left the building - Trump thread #136

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Spandauer · 09/11/2024 18:56

As we descend into 4 years of madness...

(thanks @Jaichangecentfoisdenom and* *@AcrossthePond55 for the suggestions)

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The grown-ups have left the building - Trump thread #136
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SerendipityJane · 21/01/2025 10:43

Shares in straight white men are going through the roof.

lifeturnsonadime · 21/01/2025 10:48

I just think there should be a bit more nuance, Trump won for a reason, Musk is given an audience for a reason. If the voter is looking to the right then the left has to look at why.

I hope that Trump won't be an unmitigated disaster. Personally I am glad that he followed through with the executive order on sex realism even through I have no doubt he did it for the wrong reasons.

In the meantime Musk is a provocateur. He knows exactly what he's doing. Most of the time he seems to be on an egotistical wind up. It's working.

RingoJuice · 21/01/2025 11:06

SerendipityJane · 21/01/2025 10:43

Shares in straight white men are going through the roof.

Seems you have a problem with straight white men. Why do you think color-blind, merit-based policies favor white men?

We should call this out as the soft bigotry of low expectations …

RafaistheKingofClay · 21/01/2025 11:06

Wallaw · 21/01/2025 09:56

The last one I saw last night was that he'd withdrawn the US from the WHO. How can people not realise how incredibly dangerous this administration is going to be?

No reason that could go wrong because the CDC are doing a stellar job on keeping H5N1 in check.

And I’m sure RFK will be ensuring they are stocking up on vaccines in case it does all go to shit.

prettybird · 21/01/2025 11:16

The good people at the CDC (and they are there Wink) must be pulling their hair out ShockSad

pointythings · 21/01/2025 11:37

RingoJuice · 21/01/2025 11:06

Seems you have a problem with straight white men. Why do you think color-blind, merit-based policies favor white men?

We should call this out as the soft bigotry of low expectations …

You're making some awfully big assumptions there. Recruitment isn't colour blind unless it is actively made so. Is that sort of thing mandated in the US then?

SerendipityJane · 21/01/2025 11:41

RingoJuice · 21/01/2025 11:06

Seems you have a problem with straight white men. Why do you think color-blind, merit-based policies favor white men?

We should call this out as the soft bigotry of low expectations …

I think you missed the point so spectacularly your programmers might have to recalibrate your parameters.

I'll leave it to the real people on the thread to understand what I meant. Maybe they will explain it to you.

Wallaw · 21/01/2025 11:53

RafaistheKingofClay · 21/01/2025 11:06

No reason that could go wrong because the CDC are doing a stellar job on keeping H5N1 in check.

And I’m sure RFK will be ensuring they are stocking up on vaccines in case it does all go to shit.

Yes, exactly. I'm sure they have all bases covered. Very hard to see how this could become a problem.

Wallaw · 21/01/2025 11:53

SerendipityJane · 21/01/2025 11:41

I think you missed the point so spectacularly your programmers might have to recalibrate your parameters.

I'll leave it to the real people on the thread to understand what I meant. Maybe they will explain it to you.

It's not worth anyone's time. If I had a hamster it wouldn't be worth their time.

Spandauer · 21/01/2025 12:11

Wallaw · 21/01/2025 11:53

It's not worth anyone's time. If I had a hamster it wouldn't be worth their time.

Relaxing Om Nom GIF

Too busy hamstering.

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DuncinToffee · 21/01/2025 14:44

Biology is not their strong point Confused

The grown-ups have left the building - Trump thread #136
SerendipityJane · 21/01/2025 15:15

SerendipityJane · 21/01/2025 10:43

Shares in straight white men are going through the roof.

Actually I was wrong about that. Well, incomplete. However a thread in AIBU reminded me of what I missed I should have said:

Shares in straight white Christian men are going through the roof.

CaveMum · 21/01/2025 15:39

A “massive announcement” on infrastructure coming at 4pm GMT apparently.

DuncinToffee · 21/01/2025 15:48

Trump has suspended refugee admissions programs.

As a result: Nearly 1,660 Afghans cleared by the U.S. government to resettle in the U.S. — including family members of active-duty U.S. military personnel — are having their flights canceled.

Wallaw · 21/01/2025 15:49

And another page for the 'what could possibly go wrong?' file

The grown-ups have left the building - Trump thread #136
Efacsen · 21/01/2025 16:14

DuncinToffee · 21/01/2025 15:48

Trump has suspended refugee admissions programs.

As a result: Nearly 1,660 Afghans cleared by the U.S. government to resettle in the U.S. — including family members of active-duty U.S. military personnel — are having their flights canceled.

So cruel

DuncinToffee · 21/01/2025 16:19
Angry
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CaveMum · 21/01/2025 16:26

CaveMum · 21/01/2025 15:39

A “massive announcement” on infrastructure coming at 4pm GMT apparently.

Sorry that should by 4pm local time, 9pm GMT.

SerendipityJane · 21/01/2025 16:32

With the Supreme Court now redundant, looks like Americans will be living in interesting times. If only someone had warned them.

Wallaw · 21/01/2025 16:52

I wonder when he's going to unveil that big, beautiful healthcare plan? The one had concepts of. Now that he's rescinded Biden's executive order on drug pricing, I'd expect to see it soon.

@DuncinToffee

Poor Harry Dunn (and the rest of the Capitol Police).

And, disgusting about the Afghans.

I can't decide if things can only get better or if it's going downhill from here.

RafaistheKingofClay · 21/01/2025 17:03

Wallaw · 21/01/2025 11:53

Yes, exactly. I'm sure they have all bases covered. Very hard to see how this could become a problem.

I’ve heard drinking raw cows milk from cows infected with H5N1 helps so there’s that.

Just because I feel I need to:
DO NOT DO THIS IT IS A MONUMENTALLY DUMB IDEA.

AcrossthePond55 · 21/01/2025 17:04

Well, I'm back. Yesterday went peacefully since the TV wasn't turned on until 6pm PST for Rachel. She calmed my fears and raised my anxiety levels at the same time. But at least I feel informed without the, shall we say, 'hysteria' surrounding other reportage. 'If it bleeds it leads' applies to Scrotus' verbal garbage, too.

I guess my overall feeling is 'What else did we expect?'. Some of what Scrotus signed will end up in court and certainly the first court it hits will order a 'stay' so those EOs won't be in effect. Biggest example is the 'cancelling' of birthright citizenship. That's enshrined in the Constitution and Scrotus can't change that with a swipe of his big fat Sharpie (Good God, even his pen choice shows his 'penile inferiority complex'). The same for some of his gender-based EOs since Joe signed the ERA into law. There will be a court battle on whether or not the statute had run out on the ERA and then there will be battles on what, if any rights can be taken away from women, either natal or 'otherwise'. What so many don't realize is that so much of what he's doing will erode the rights of natal women, too.

The best we can do is stay informed and participate in local politics. Much will be decided in the midterms, and the GOP is famous for working on 'down ballot' offices since they're often stepping stones to higher offices. The Democratic Party has too often brushed that off and they shouldn't. So I will be watching carefully to see what my party has learnt and what steps they are taking to encourage others to take up their platform. Time will tell.

We live in a vinicultural area and are surrounded by acres of vineyards on 2 sides. Almost all of the workers are Latino, 'status unknown'. DH and I have already decided that should the need arise, they will be given a 'hiding place' if there are raids. We aren't really expecting it though, the vineyards aren't large scale producers.

At this point, as my gran used to say "What cannot be cured, must be endured". I can't influence the 'big things', all I can do is the 'little things'.

DuncinToffee · 21/01/2025 17:07

"I don't want to be seen as a Gestapo" 😬

Wallaw · 21/01/2025 17:28

RafaistheKingofClay · 21/01/2025 17:03

I’ve heard drinking raw cows milk from cows infected with H5N1 helps so there’s that.

Just because I feel I need to:
DO NOT DO THIS IT IS A MONUMENTALLY DUMB IDEA.

Lol, yes. Im not a huge milk fan, but when I do have it (mostly in coffee), I like it pasteurised into something as far removed from cow juice as possible.

@AcrossthePond55

Honestly, I think there will be some show deportations so they can have public standoffs with Democratic governors and that will be about it, but I accept that could be an optimistic scenario. I'm not sure who they think is going to be rebuilding California...

One of my kids is in grad school in a city that keeps being mentioned as potentially being the first target. I feel hypocritical because I'm vacillating between of course, you need to get involved and do the right thing helping to protect vulnerable people, and, whatever you do, don't get hurt or arrested.

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