I’m scared now I’ve realised this

[Pickandmixmood]

I was thinking that the US public wouldn’t vote for Trump now that it is so apparent he is such a fascist. It’s terrifying to realise that they already know that and that is why they are going to vote for him.
I’m scared for the world.

Which several states do you think she will flip apart from the tight key swing states?

Either BBC1 or C4 recently did a segment with some NCAA Division 1 female athletes at a major campus. Almost all of them said that women’s reproductive rights were the single most important issue for them and that they would be voting for Harris.

I don’t doubt it, but the nature of the numbers mean if she was to stand on campus and say to those women “trans women should be allowed into your sports!” and just enough women (and supportive men) listened to Riley Gaines and her experience in response, it could easily swing a few thousand votes. Harris has sensibly avoided doing so so she knows it would lose those votes.

With regards to Biden, every Democrat administration since 1973 has had an excuse of some sort. The expectation that Harris won’t is understandable but wishful, sadly. It will be just the same I suspect.

And as an example:

https://quillette.com/2024/11/01/college-volleyballs-spartan-meltdown/

Maybe the women affected by this will choose their vote based on who supports them being forced to play against a male.

I am quite aware of all this, thanks, and genuinely willing to make the bet I referred to above if only we had a way to decide it.

No, it is not pro abortion. It is pro choice. It always has been. The term pro abortion is used by anti-choice anti abortionists. The GOP asserts the Dems are pro abortion. They are not.

At the time he was with Trump, nobody would have thought that The Mooch would turn out to have some principles. Good for him.

Re dems and the trans issue I really don’t think this has the traction the pro trans folks want it to. Most liberals are supportive but uncomfortable. The younger the person the more supportive, this really is a topic the kids have run away with. There will be a shift back closer to center in a few decades when we see the damage its causing, ie women being disenfranchised and the trans folks being hurt by being pushed into meds and surgeries w/o proper forethought.

but that will take years. Its going to be fought over bitterly for the foreseeable future imho but nothing will be codified on a national level.

Ms Harris is vague re the subject so I don’t expect her to do much for the movement when elected, they’ll be angry but not much will change.

There are two topics I differ strongly from my party, the trans issue and the war Israel is waging. The blind support for palestine and sickening antisemitism that must have been hidden close to the surface terrify me. They don’t seem able to grasp that they’re being used as useful idiots by Iran. The way they gloss over the atrocity committed is frightening to me.

They're constantly talking about abortion because women are literally dying because of draconian abortion laws. Maternal mortality has skyrocketed in states with restrictive abortion laws, to crisis levels. Up by 56% in Texas alone, for example. Don't you think letting these women die is just a wee bit more "icky" than talking about what needs to be done to prevent their deaths?

Only the forced birthers call it "pro-abortion."

A campaign ad released by former President Donald J. Trump in battleground states slams Vice President Harris for supporting taxpayer-funded transgender surgeries for prisoners and migrants, concluding: “Kamala is for they/them. President Trump is for you.”
But the Trump administration’s record on providing services for transgender people in the sprawling federal prison system, which houses thousands of undocumented immigrants awaiting trial or deportation, is more nuanced than the 30-second spot suggests.
Trump appointees at the Bureau of Prisons, a division of the Justice Department, provided an array of gender-affirming treatments, including hormone therapy, for a small group of inmates who requested it during Mr. Trump’s four years in office.

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/16/us/politics/trump-prisons-transgender-care-harris.html

Slamming the opposition for what were their own policies is par for the course with these hypocrites.

Just so you know, a VP is not in a position to create legislation. The VP can't even vote in the Senate, except in order to break a tie. A VP's powers are limited almost exclusively to the Executive Branch.

It may be shoved down our throats by ads from the right wing but real live humans are not talking about this in regards to the election

well, my one nutty rwnj coworker who keeps an earbud feed of newsmax running all day and talks to herself aloud about how great trump is and the evils of librerals, she might talk about it but nobody listens to her bc she is insane from overuse of far right propaganda

Literally nobody I’m in contact with mentions trans rights. Yes ads are being run about it but that doesn’t make it legitimate, its the usual republican scare mongering. Trans are here to beat our daughters in sport, brown people are here to take our jobs (the shitty ones no american wants) and rape our daughters after the trannies rout them on the field. Its all ignored by most viewers.

The whole "transwomen in the changing rooms" thing from Trump's campaign is especially sickening/hypocritical given Trump's habit of wandering into the changing rooms of the beauty pageant he ran https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-former-miss-arizona-tasha-dixon-naked-undressed-backstage-howard-stern-a7357866.html . He is as bad as the very worst of the transwomen he fear mongers about. I know that there is an idea that it takes a bad guy to stop the other bad guys, but in reality all it will do is create a culture of impunity, especially because he was PROUD of the fact he was able to do this. Even if every transwomen is banned from every women's changing room (unlikely because I don't think he actually gives a shit) other creepy men in his circle or in power will be given a green light to act however they want. He isn't even a man who made a mistake or anything - he thinks using your position to get into women's spaces is smart.
All it will do is enable people to use it as a "gotcha" the same way Catholic priests are used when people complain about inappropriate drag queens etc.

Interesting choice to cite the Quillette, an Australian right leaning online magazine.
I'd invite you to read this:

https://www.hrc.org/resources/get-the-facts-about-transgender-non-binary-athletes

I can't imagine how difficult it is for the athlete. The hate is absolutely disgusting.

The origins and leanings of Quillette are immaterial. The article reports the facts. A male is playing for a women’s college volleyball team. It is not safe to play against that male. Opposing teams have forfeited as a result.

Your link has ludicrous claims that sex-based physical differences, ie the reason we have sex-segregated sport in the first place, are just natural variations and it’s a stereotype to claim it matters🙄.

It’s not hate to protect women’s sport.

It’s also important to note that the Obama administration made the changes to Title IX originally and Harris supports this.

Harris is campaigning in North Carolina today, where this happened, a woman was left with brain damage from a balled spiked by a male. Tell this woman she should vote for Harris who would let what happen to her continue.

(The video of the incident is in the article.)

https://wlos.com/amp/news/local/volleyball-player-injured-after-transgender-opponent-spiked-ball-at-her-speaks-out

Again,
https://www.aclu.org/news/lgbtq-rights/four-myths-about-trans-athletes-debunked

Yes, it is hate.

So - it’s now a myth that male puberty confers athletic advantage?

Tell me you’re crap at support without telling me you’re crap at sport…

A sizeable number of Democrats are uneasy about males in female sport as well. Lia Thomas effected change, but not in the direction he’d hoped.

Denying male advantage is pointless, it’s evident at every athletic and swim meet, from early teens to the Olympics.

https://news.gallup.com/poll/507023/say-birth-gender-dictate-sports-participation.aspx

From 2021 to 2023 been a public shift as well, with fewer people thinking trans athletes should compete as their “gender” rather than sex.

Supporting male athletes competing in female sports is not a vote winner for Democrats

I've read Payton McNabb's posts on her X page.
She alternates between calling the other player a boy and a man. Her bias against trans people isn't hidden.
She says, my rights and safety were deemed less important than a man's feelings and false reality.
I'm truly sorry for her injury. But, it didn't happen because her opponent was trans. Sport is not without risk.

journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/23259671231180534?icid=int.sj-full-text.similar-articles.5

It isn't evident at every athletic event and swim meet...

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8944319/#:~:text=There%20does%20not%20seem%20to,men%20over%20women%20is%20testosterone.

Does your hate tire you very much?

Four myths that are actually false.

I’m not surprised you’ve linked that article from 2020. Accusing people of protecting women’s sport from males as hateful is sooo 2020.

Chase Strangio is also the person who works for the ACLU and wanted a book burned because it told the truth about the damage to young girls.

It’s her right to call the person who caused her irreparable damage, who is male, a man. She doesn’t have bias against trans people. She recognises males for who they are and doesn’t believe they should be in women’s sport.

What happened to her is because male advantage confers the ability to spike a volleyball at greater speed and force than would have happened if a female had done it.

Why do we have women’s and girls’ sport? Why does it exist?

Why do we have women’s and girls’ sport? Why does it exist?

Could it be that the definitions are narrow and outdated?

Are you equally outraged at women transitioning to men and seeking to compete in men's sport?

This is an interesting read (albeit a long one):

www.newyorker.com/sports/sporting-scene/how-one-swimmer-became-the-focus-of-a-debate-about-trans-athletes

This is not a list of myths and facts. It is a list of claims and counterclaims, with the counterclaims being subjective opinion, not fact, and often missing the point completely.
For example, the idea that gender exists separate from biological sex is an ideological belief, not a fact.

The idea that trans teens facing harassment somehow mitigates the advantage of being biologically male is particularly silly. Non-trans teen girls face harassment as well. Or are we at a point where it's become such an Orwellian nightmare that it's considered "hateful" to admit that biological females face harassment, assault and discrimination?

Regarding the claim that women might be subjected to humiliating tests to prove their sex if trans athletes cannot compete in women's sports, that has been the case since the middle of the twentieth century when more stringent eligibility requirements based on sex were put in place.

It is evident at every athletic and swim meet. Something to understand is that some females will be faster and stronger than some males. However, fastest and strongest of the lot, right up to Olympic level are males

And yes, puberty blocked males with the accompanying brain fog, lethargy and decreased bone density from blockers aren’t going to be athletes, are they?