I’m scared now I’ve realised this

[Pickandmixmood]

I was thinking that the US public wouldn’t vote for Trump now that it is so apparent he is such a fascist. It’s terrifying to realise that they already know that and that is why they are going to vote for him.
I’m scared for the world.

Sounds to me like you need to have the news on a bit more.

What a blinkered attitude.

Can you honestly say that when you voted in the recent General Election that you gave any care to what the rest of the world felt about the results of the UK election?

They mean that they see Kamala Harris as a 'diversity hire' who isn't there on her own merit. Never mind that she has got there by sheer hard work.

Basically @CustardCreams2 is confirming that they are a racist who can't believe a non-white person could achieve anything without affirmative action.

She was the bloody attorney general for California! She's very much NOT intellectually challenged 😂😂😂

This was a serious question to a professor of a related topic on BBC world service I think, it might repeat. It was good, worth a listen.

It was a no from him btw, but still some good analysis

I didn't mention Hitler.

Since you have though, he was aided and abetted by other right wing leaders at the time. He didn't exist in a vacuum, the general political mood was right wing and everyone thought it was ok. And see what happened..

America's influence is huge in the world.....the way Trump behaves, the things he says, the lies he tells. We don't need that kind of influence. You can accept that because of whatever complex situation you like but I can't.

I don’t think it was ‘killing’ it’ under Biden either to be fair. My point was neither are actually running the country.

I apoteciate your opinion, but we're at odds. I find both Harris and Clinton thoughtful and well-spoken.
Trump's bizarre ramblings are indisputable. His proposed economic remedies, ie massive tariffs ("My favourite word is "tariff"" he said)might sound good on the surface, but will have disastrous consequences.
The Dems are not perfect, but inflation has decreased by approx 5pts under their administration.
It won't be enough to clinch it for the Dems, though. I think the race is tighter than the polls show.

That is a very late development. They have belatedly realised how much of a vote loser is the legislation that strips girls of their right to accessing to sporting opportunities in school. The democrats signed that into law. People do not like it, so they have been noticeably silent on this. But words are cheap. Look at their legislation. It has done nothing to improve the lot of working Americans and this has fucked them.

Well I have been listening to actual facts and again not true because the economy is doing so much better. The interest rate is getting better and things are better but a lot of false narrative has been suggested by Donald Trump. https://thehill.com/opinion/campaign/4956904-the-biden-harris-economic-record-is-much-better-than-critics-claim/

its fucking terrifying to be an american right now.

I feel a strong uncanny valley feeling that these people are walking around in my world and so full of hate and just plain batshit crazy to think trump is good to reelect. I'm avoiding most social media and broadcast tv tho realized last night that children tv programs have little to no political advertising so reduced to watching cartoons which is an improvement over the news I guess.

Thinking of him reelected makes my stomach churn

thinking of ms harris winning and violence/non-acceptance makes me want to puke.

I'm in turmoil until its over then it might get worse.

Oh god, I hadn’t even thought about the unrest that will be stirred up by Trump if he doesn’t win. Still preferable to what will happen if he wins though

No need to look as far as the US public. In the UK we still have people voting Labour despite them creating a dodgy dossier of lies to take the country into an illegal war in Iraq to kill 500,000+ people and mass migration still going on today.

I'd worry far more about those people supporting such a party here in the UK rather than Trump who in fact started no wars and set up the Abraham Accords, reached out to North Korea, Russia etc.

I'd say UK Labour voters have far more blood on their hands than any Trump voter ever will.

If I were American I would have voted RFK Jnr, and given he has now teamed with Trump, I'd be voting Trump.

I often feel people who still go on about Brexit and Trump being Hitler are just behind the times and somewhat in denial. They can't see what is going on around them, they just want to drink a Chardonnay with their friends on a Friday and talk about the latest Netflix drama, they don't want to face the conflict that is brewing in our societies due to immigration and widespread government over reach and corruption.

I hear people defending Starmer for his literal and provable lies, and it seems to me that it is just too much to think about, they have their Chardonnay to drink on a Friday and can't be bothered with all this upset. They voted for him because he seems nice so that was the end of it. Don't want to hear any more.

Fair enough, but I kinda think stay out of it completely and just actually drink your chardonnay.

Trump has been treated very unfairly, most of the stories that you hear about him are vastly exaggerated and taken out of context. He has been prosecuted for things that are ridiculous, and when you hear people say he is a felon with 34 convictions, most people can't even explain what those convictions are for, and if they bother to find out they are surprised it is something so very odd. And ridiculous. He is a threat to the Establishment, and in the US, the Democrats are the party of war, capture by big corporations and censorship, so if that is your bag, cool. Trump is not captured by anyone, and that is his main appeal (and threat) and there is absolutely no reason to be scared by him. I would definitely be more scared by the Democrats, just take a listen to RFK Jnr who was a Democrat through and through, and see how they treated him and what he thinks of the current Democrat party.

Trump sacked him..hes just another disgruntled ex employee

WTAF did I just read???

Funny how so many that have worked with him think like this though

U say starmer lies and yet you don’t mention anything about what Donald Trump has done you realise in the four years of him being a president this is the amount of lies that he was fact checked on by the Washington Post. Trump’s false or misleading claims total 30,573 over 4 years

The argument that we shouldn’t call Trump a fascist because it undermines the holocaust is a totally nonsensical argument to me.

1. if somebody says what they’re going to do, believe them. hitler/franco/mussolini etc all said these crazy hateful things when they were on the rise and people just thought ‘oh they don’t mean it.’ Turns out they did. Why are we assuming, when trump says that it’s America for Americans, that it will be any different with him?
2. it’s BECAUSE of what we all know what hitler and his ilk did that we’re so worried about Trump. Far from undermining it, we’re actively recognising what humanity is capable of when a bigoted madman gets to power.
3. hitler destroyed the democratic system (the Weimar Republic) that he took over. Trump has already tried to do that once (January 6) so why on earth do we think it’ll be any different.

What do you actually think Trump is going to do? I find it absurd when people compare him to Hitler. You know Trump supports Israel. Please tell me what you actually fear or is it just blind hate?
Do you not see the extremes that the democracts and the establishment have gone to to try and silence Trump and remove their opposition?

Doesn't work that way. Fascist does not always equal antisemitic, although as it is I think Trump's policies and the direction he's sending the party in will ultimately be dangerous to Jews. I'm the descendent of Holocaust survivors and I can tell you that people like Trump are not good for us. Any support for Jews is as fake as Trump's 'Christianity'

Supporting Israel also doesn't mean you support Jews. He likes it because he sees it as anti-Muslim and the Evangelicals behind him like it because they believe the Jews of Israel need to all convery so the Messiah will return (good luck with that, most Israelis fall into either Ultra-Orthodox or totally irreligious, but there you go)

I'm of the opinion now that everyone just deserves what they vote for now. I'm done trying to make people see sense.

Women voting for removal of their reproductive rights? Go for it. Voting in a convicted criminal? Why not.

I mean, look at us. Voting to leave the EU to regain control of our borders? It went so well for us.

Having said all that, I think it's a travesty that Kamala hasn't come out fighting for herself as a candidate. Being "not Donald Trump" isn't enough. She needed to campaign stronger for her policies and be clear on where she stood on key issues and I don't feel she's been strong enough on that front, to the point it will lose her the election.

I think a lot of Americans don't want a black female president. I'm more scared of Vance than I am Trump. He could break up the USA and it's looking like Gilead is a real possibility.

That's a very interesting pov 😂😂

Have you seen publicly filmed footage of him at his own rally mocking a man with a disability? Or at a publicly filmed debate saying 'THEY'RE EATING THE DOGS'?

This is actually who he is. Publicly. On film. And I've never drunk chardonnay in my life 🤣

Biden didn't start any wars. He actually ended one.

Do you mean the withdrawal from Afghanistan? Because that was an utter catastrophe.