Can't believe what happened... was l in the right?

[Oktagrammata]

Went to IKEA today... hardly any trolleys in the trolley bay .. but just manage to get last one.
I put my walking stick in the trolley.
Needed loo.. went to disabled loo..( l have a stoma). left my trolley outside with my walking stick in.. thinking surely no one will take my trolley.
Comes out of loo and trolley is gone.
Asks the security guy and a member of staff I'd they had seen it/ moved it.. they hadn't.
So l start walking... to look for it..
See a woman in the next section pushing my trolley .. with some items she had put in.
I explain she has my trolley with my walking stick in.
She looks at me like I'm mad but doesn't say a word. Takes out my walking stick and hands it to me.
I say.. " can you please take your items out of my trolley and let me have it back please".
She huffs and puffs.. but doesn't speak. Put her items into her friends trolley and pushes my trolley to me so hard it bangs into me.
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she forced someone who clearly uses a walking aid to go and look for her - having taken the walking aid. There were clearly very few trolleys - she was with a friend who had a trolley.

Who, but an utter cunt, would take a trolley from outside a disabled toilet with a walking aid in it? And then shove the trolley at that person.

and with some you do go to the loo when you don’t need to ‘just in case’!

@Oktagrammata In any case the woman was a dick to go off with your trolly and especially your stick. I despair at the casual ablism in the world.

Indeed.

At my IKEA, the trolleys are near the lifts on the car park. You collect a trolley then go down in the lift. You can then turn right towards the loos and cafe or continue straight head into the showrooms. So most people get their trolly, nip to the loo or cafe then do their browsing.
There’s always a row of trolleys with things in them like a shopping bag to indicate someone has claimed the trolley.

have lived in Germany since the 60s and have literally never ever experienced this.

You could argue that if the person needs to use a walking stick why have they left it in the trolley?

Do you often try to claim items with a walking stick OP?

Bloody hell. Wtf is wrong with some people here?

Sorry, OP, but it's not really your trolley and asking her to take her items out of the trolley and give it to you is rude. I'd have given you your stick and walked off.

Look, in the wilds of IKEA, trolleys are like gold dust. If you step away for even a second, that trolley is fair game! And with a walking stick in it? That’s practically a sign saying, “Please borrow me, my owner won’t mind.” I mean, how was she supposed to know you were just on a loo break? You could’ve gone rogue, abandoned your trolley for all anyone knew!

And let’s not forget the real hero in this story: this woman just liberated an otherwise lonely trolley from a lifetime of loo-side abandonment. She rescued it. And sure, maybe she got a little attached, started putting her own stuff in it – but can we blame her? She probably thought she was doing IKEA a service, keeping their trolleys in circulation.

As for the walking stick handover, well, maybe she was just trying to demonstrate the IKEA method: flat-pack kindness. A little bang from the trolley to remind you of the harsh realities of furniture assembly.

So really, she’s the unsung hero here, helping keep IKEA running smoothly, one “borrowed” trolley at a time! Let’s cut her some slack – this is survival of the quickest wheeled-cart grabber, after all!

OK let’s start again. Let’s say you are the woman who took both the trolley and walking stick inside it while the OP was in the disabled toilet. How would you know once the walking stick owner came back from the disabled toilet that there would be both staff around to help her and also that she could walk around the store after you in order to get her stick back? Remember the woman who took the trolley doesn’t know OP from a bar of soap and doesn’t know the level of her mobility.

Genuinely trying to understand the mindset of people who think it’s OK to do this.

What a strange thing to do, knowing that someone obviously needed that walking stick.
It's one thing walking off with an abandoned trolley, but who on earth walks off with someone's walking stick?!

It was left just outside the disabled toilet, in a trolley. It does not mean that the holder could not manage to walk a few steps into the toilet unaided. It would be a problem for the OP, no doubt, to have taken it in with her, only for it to fall on the floor. So no, I would not argue as to why it was left in the trolley.

In reality, no one thinks YABU. Of course you're not. But the sad thing is that there are a handful of posters on MN who love nothing more than a bun fight, so they'll always play devil's advocate.

On a complete side note, if that's a couple of people who are bored and just messing around trying to have a bit of fun on a parenting forum, it makes it easy to understand how easy it is for hostile organisations to stir up civil unrest and tensions on a national or even international scale, especially around the time of elections.

Complete and utter tangent and totally irrelevant, but to me at least, MN is a fascinating study into how society interacts.

But that's you and your choice. It does not give you or others the right to take things from others. We learn this at 2

Get away with it? Like getting away with a crime? The OP got the last trolley and put her walking stick in there. She has a medical condition (stoma) which means that she nees the toilet urgently.

If she'd left her handbag in there, it's likely that someone would just steal the handbag and leg it out of the store, rather than taking the trolley.

You seem to have no empathy or understanding of disabilities and seem to think that it was an appropriate punishment for the crime of 'hogging' a trolley for someone to steal her trolley and her walking stick.

Very weird thing to do....did she not see the stick? That's the only way I can understand why she'd take the trolley. I don't see how it's possible to miss though so she's either a horrible person or very stupid.

People like that are what is wrong with the world. Just a nasty attitude

yes but this thread gave us IKEA Jesus. So for that we should all bow our heads for a minute and praise the Kötbullar

So you think what op did was rude but taking a trolley with a walking stick in from outside a disabled toilet that's OK

Are you genuinely that stupid? Can your brain not comprehend that accessible toilets are grab railed, so those who require a single hand walking aid can in almost all cases rely on the grabs, this then prevents their walking aid falling onto the floor where it is likely to be out of reach.

Their are some people on this thread who need to really have a long hard look at themselves and actually think about what their saying. Taking a walking stick from a disabled person is low beyond low

These are the parents of kids in schools, no wonder society is fucked with people like this. Brilliant.

The lack of empathy from some is quite depressing.

Even if they stumbled across what appeared to be an abandoned trolley, didn't click that it was outside a disabled toilet and didn't see the walking stick, when the poor OP had to come and track down their stick (with neither stick or trolley for support) the entitled wanker person decided that the trolley was still theirs and the person with mobility issues could go find another and when challenged pushed it into OP!

She took the trolley with the walking stick in it so if OP hadn't managed to find the woman and get her walking stick back, she would have stolen it.

OP also says that she 'pushes my trolley to me so hard it bangs into me.'

So the whole incident was a little more than annoying.

You could argue that if the person needs to use a walking stick why have they left it in the trolley?

Yes some of the replies are absolutely shocking but the comment I quoted here is on a whole other level. The level of ignorance is worrying.