Can't believe what happened... was l in the right?

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Went to IKEA today... hardly any trolleys in the trolley bay .. but just manage to get last one.
I put my walking stick in the trolley.
Needed loo.. went to disabled loo..( l have a stoma). left my trolley outside with my walking stick in.. thinking surely no one will take my trolley.
Comes out of loo and trolley is gone.
Asks the security guy and a member of staff I'd they had seen it/ moved it.. they hadn't.
So l start walking... to look for it..
See a woman in the next section pushing my trolley .. with some items she had put in.
I explain she has my trolley with my walking stick in.
She looks at me like I'm mad but doesn't say a word. Takes out my walking stick and hands it to me.
I say.. " can you please take your items out of my trolley and let me have it back please".
She huffs and puffs.. but doesn't speak. Put her items into her friends trolley and pushes my trolley to me so hard it bangs into me.
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You abandoned your trolley, it's no longer yours!

Have a child that needs catheters and the disabled loos are always able to fit the wheelchair and trolley would def fit. You cannot just leave it abandoned and think that’s ok? Madnes!

Was she supposed to take it in with her? I would have thought it would be obvious it was being used if it had someone’s personal item in it

What if the OP hadn’t needed the disabled loo?
So she leaves the trolley WITH HER WALKING STICK in, because you clearky can’t take it to the normal loos and …. It’s ok fur someone to take it with her stuff in it?
Even better it should be expected because she had ‘abandoned it’.

Right….

(Also trying to I imagine myself trying to go in the disabled loo in my wheelchair whilst pushing a trolley. With the door that is heavy.
Yay sounds like something totally easy to do…)

Don’t be absurd, it’s not the same at all. So if a person using a sunbed on holiday decides shortly after starting sunbathing that they need to use the loo then they should assume that if they leave said sunbed, even with a towel on it, it’s fair game to be taken while in the loo?

Also, what if OP had needed the loo while further round the store. Would they then have to return all their items, use the toilet and start again with a fresh trolley?

Then again I suppose you with your perfect bladder and bowels only ever needs the toilet at opportune moments. You couldn’t possibly know what it’s like to have a medical condition that makes everything much less predictable. Even people without medical conditions find themselves caught short.

Surely the more reasonable thing to do would be go to the loo with the aid of your walking stick and then seek out a trolley.

Very different because the OP has some mobility issues and was likeky using the trolley as a walking aid (aka leaning on it).

Plus clearly, finding a trolley wasn’t that easy. The other women wouldn’t have reacted that way if it was!!

Are you high???? Surely it’s the norm to go get a table first?? You wouldn’t go order food without a table?

The trolleys are on the way in at our Ikea. The loos are upstairs near the cafe. Do you honestly think, for anyone with mobility issues, it would make sense to go into the store, go upstairs to the loo, then come all the way back down to pick up a trolley ? 🛒

It’s obvious from the layout that one is meant to collect a trolley at the entrance. The person who took the one outside the loo with the OP’s stick in it was pretty unobservant to say the least.

This may come as some surprise to you: people can be mobile enough to walk ten paces from the trolley outside the loo to the porcelain throne and back but still rely on a stick for longer distances.

We don't know how much pain or risk OP incurred searching for her stick afterwards. She had no choice but to try to recover her stick.

I say "risk" because sticks aren't just used for weight-bearing but also for balance. OP might be able to walk but at risk of falling without her stick.

WTAF - are you insinuating that the OP isn't disabled at all? There's something wrong with you.

Fancy coming into the chat on page 15 and thinking that this is a valuable contribution! Quite a few other ableist twats have come out with the same bullshit as you but luckily most posters have supported the OP.

OP has already confirmed that her trolley wouldn't fit into the disabled toilet.

give over the poor women has a bag. yoi can't control when you need to go to the toilet it was alos sitting outside the disabled toilet with her stick in it. fair play to op for standing up for herself

YANBU OP. But I can't believe no one is asking what we all really want to know though - what did you buy from IKEA? This could be an "IKEA x Found Shopping List" type thread!

I once had to leave my wheelchair outside a toilet (btw, you really can't fit a wheelchair in every disabled toilet cubicle, particularly small/independent places. I'm lucky enough that I can use a stick out of the chair) I came out to a group of boys about 13/14 riding it around 100mph and trying to do wheelies! I'm normally the type who would totally lose my shit, but they actually looked to be having so much fun and enjoying themselves so much, it actually made me smile. I did pretend to lose my shit initially and terrified them. I pointed out if they kept that up, they'd end up in a fucking wheelchair themselves in A and E, god they were mortified to be caught. They were really apologetic and embarrassed especially when I'd finished with them. I said I didn't mind myself on this occasion but that they absolutely can not go around nicking peoples wheelchairs for their entertainment, it's disrespectful/TWOC etc, as well as a dick move in general. It all ended well and I'm sure they wouldn't have done it again.

It's different from OP's situation where this adult was a disrespectful adult thief, it's indefensible (to anyone who isn't ableist or lacking any common sense at least). These were young and thoughtless. They reminded me a bit of me and my mates being dicks riding supermarket trollies in the carpark (when supermarkets used to be closed on a Sundays!) And my own DC used to love spinning around/wheelies in my chair etc at that age. Even now, my DH will do terrify me doing exaggerated wheelies pushing me up a pavement! I have to visit a usually deserted part of a certain hospital every so often, and if a DC is pushing me and there's no one about, they will run along a long corridor pushing me as fast as they can, I don't know who enjoys it more, me or them. Part is a slope and I know it'll end in tears one day, but at least it's near A and E

Anyway, OP what did you buy? (Also I don't know how you feel about chairs and whether you can self propel or would like someone to propel you etc, but IKEA provide both types of wheelchairs, and a personal shopper/assistant on request). Shopping there in a chair, for me, is much more enjoyable than with a stick/crutches. I can take my time and look at it all instead of struggling in pain and trying to make it as short as possible. I love looking at the tiny studio flat layouts and how they fit things in. I just love IKEA basically

😄 think your right …

Taking a disabled person's mobility aid because you can't be arsed to wait for a trolley is the lowest of the low not to mention lacks common sense.

Unfortunately these days there's far too many selfish feckers with no common decency.