Can't believe what happened... was l in the right?

[Oktagrammata]

Went to IKEA today... hardly any trolleys in the trolley bay .. but just manage to get last one.
I put my walking stick in the trolley.
Needed loo.. went to disabled loo..( l have a stoma). left my trolley outside with my walking stick in.. thinking surely no one will take my trolley.
Comes out of loo and trolley is gone.
Asks the security guy and a member of staff I'd they had seen it/ moved it.. they hadn't.
So l start walking... to look for it..
See a woman in the next section pushing my trolley .. with some items she had put in.
I explain she has my trolley with my walking stick in.
She looks at me like I'm mad but doesn't say a word. Takes out my walking stick and hands it to me.
I say.. " can you please take your items out of my trolley and let me have it back please".
She huffs and puffs.. but doesn't speak. Put her items into her friends trolley and pushes my trolley to me so hard it bangs into me.
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I think that you are being quite insensitive here. People don't always know when they are going to suddenly require a toilet and this is especially true of someone who has a stoma. They can fill up and leak etc. It was also incredibly rude to take a trolley outside of a toilet, that has a walking stick in it. For someone who needs a walking stick, this is an essential aid for mobility and they could have been unable to walk enough to get assistance from a staff member. It's pretty obvious where the owner might be and even more obvious that it's personal property that doesn't belong to you!

🤣 this is giving me "you wouldn't steal a bandbag" 2000s anti film piracy advert at the cinema!

I'm with OP, that person was a tea leaf.

Eugh handbag not bandbag

Some of the people on this thread are really OK with being the kind of people that take a trolley with a walking stick in it....

A lot of people really really hate the existence of people who have disabiltiies and see them as less than people.

To the trolley thief defenders: you might not be everything that's wrong with the world but you're getting there. Take a long, hard look in the mirror and give yourselves a stern talking to.

Abandoned it?
I suppose it was right of her to shove it at the woman so hard it banged into her as well?

She knew she was wrong which is why she returned it like a petulant teenager and shoved it into you. If she had genuinely not noticed your walking stick when she took it she would have been apologetic and 'oh, sorry I didn't realise'.

You've got to be pretty vile yourself to defend this..

Selfish ones!

It’s not even that I don’t think. It’s a world view that everything revolves around the individual- me want, me takes! In Japan for example community and society comes first. That’s how the children are raised. In the West we are raised to believe in individualism, we are all unique and special and this breeds selfishness.

So if I left my jacket on a chair in a cafe while I nipped to the loo would you think it was free to claim too?!

Did you forget to take your meds today? Or are you just a complete arsehole?

Oh gosh don’t talk about the right to reserve tables with coats!! That’s the flip side of the same coin. No wonder I don’t go to busy places anymore. I can’t deal with the drana!

Yep, these awful “individuals” wouldn’t survive long in many parts of Asia.

I think it's more a rife self entitlement and 'me me me' philosophy. Many people now only like to do good things if there's a camera present so they can upload so social media.

Who the heck takes a trolley sitting on its own outside the disabled loo with a walking stick in it?! Bonkers.

op you were not in the wrong

As someone who has a husband with a physical disabilty, it really is that so many people hate the fact that people with disabilities are allowed to exist.

Surely it's not reserving, it's just using a table? They found a table, they put their stuff down, they need to go and do something else they can't do at the table like order food or go to the toilet.

It's nowhere near the same thing as sticking a towel on a sunbed then going back to bed because you want to use it 5 hours later.

I'm horrified by some of the replies, Ikea jesus christ. Taking a trolley with someone else's stuff in it because you can't be arsed to walk to the trolley park and get one yourself is lazy and entitled. Waltzing off with someone else's walking stick is another level of selfishness entirely.

Yeah this

I'm so sorry you've had this experience.
It does remind me of a time last year when DH had a bad back injury meaning he needed a lot of support for a few weeks and we were in our local Tesco one day and fully grown adults were gawping at him. I was well practised in a very scathing look at those individuals.

Anyone with more than 1 brain cell would realise that a trolley with a walking stick in it outside the loos is being used by a person in the loo.

Unless, of course, they are just a cunt. In which case they'll stroll off with it - or defend cunts that do this shit.

@TheShellBeach

Another unkind post. Another!

Do you lead a sheltered life? Your bar for being horrified must be at almost floor level.

There are CFs all over, the Mumsnet demographic is so not representative of the real world it's funny.

No one even knows if the person clocked the stick in the trolley before they wheeled it away, they could be unobservant and rude when challenged or simply an uncaring wanker but we are always going to encounter people who don't behave as well as they should, they won't ever change

Do you often try to claim items with a walking stick OP? Unless the trolley had a lampshade, cushion and a couple of meatballs on it it's likely they thought that it was free and as a bonus had saved them a trip to the walking stick sectiön. I think you would have come across as very rude.