Kemi badenoch and Robert jenrick through to final

[Hunnymonster1]

So the new leader of the tory party will be a woman that wants to cut maternity pay who loves the culture war rubbish and Robert who painted over a cartoon in an immigration centre. Who wants us out kf the echr because who need human rights lol
The conservative party is now like the reform party them two are very much to the right of the party
So with that choice I can't see tories getting back in in 5 years time. Most people are on the centre doesn't bother me as I loath tories but we do need an opposition

Labour are not performing badly as Matthew wright said on lbc today the press are crucifying them more. They never went after conservatives with boris getting 90000 worth of gifts food etc . Yet any little thing boom they are on at labour. The thing is we don’t normally have elections in summer so close to break up etc so they haven’t been able to pass stuff yet but look at stuff that will be coming like workers rights etc. This country I agree has lurched to the right mainly in my view from to many interests like the media moguls

Yes, that's true. The media bias has been appalling. I know they are already doing some good things on workers' rights and renters' rights.

Where I am really concerned, though, is that all the "tough decisions" are against poorer people on the whole, while there are none against corporations and wealthy individuals. Water utilities are still allowed to pump sewage into our rivers and sea with impunity; energy companies are still given free rein to just charge what they like and so on.

People voted for change and in too many ways they are not getting it. This is why I'm very concerned that the right can capitalise on the disillusionment.

I believe they are bringing in a law against water companies the bill is being passed soon you don’t hear this stuff funny that. Isn’t it funny that the big media are distracting with other stuff https://lordslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/lln-2024-0058/

People voted for change yes but that’s not gonna happen in hundred days and those that thought that need to wise the fuck up. I voted labour but this country has been destroyed under 14 years of the tories it’s gonna take time realistically prob ten years

Well not being funny but the Tory party had its chance at long term government and it was a disaster and disgrace. Not sure where you live but many parts of the UK outside London have declined massively. My tiwn now resembles something out of communist Albania so forgive me if I disagree. And your comment about Starmer is childish, ffs is that what political discourse has come to, insults akin to toddler name calling.

Absolutely. Like 14 years of mismanagement can be rectified in 4 months. Says a lot about the British level of intelligence tbh.

The vast majority of people aren't going to want to spend the next 10 years in penury on the promise of a same day Dr's appointment and a bus to town, while they watch the green fields around them covered in shitty houses.

In case you haven't realised there were plenty in penury before Labour got in. Does the 'cost of living crisis' ring any bells with you?

Illogical. So happy to have no GP appointment and shite public transport rather than houses being built ? Weird. Rapidly becoming convinced that the country absolutely deserves to become a third word shithole with a sprinkling of well offs and super rich.

The reality is that there were difficulties getting a GP appointment under the Tories. Because Labour haven't fixed that in 100 days they're apparently to blame. Whether Badenoch or Jenrick is elected as leader neither represent any kind of serious or credible opposition to the government, and all government needs a credible opposition.

We have a notoriously fickle electorate as it is. This government will be lucky to last five years without much better media management. They need someone of Alastair Campbell's calibre to head up the media team for starters.

Depends how much labour screw up, which seems quite a lot right now.

Well people are stupid people in America think Biden controls the weather actual voters. To those nimbys when there’s a housing crisis and we new houses built can’t have both ways

I agree but it goes to show a lot of this country are thick. Now I am working class didn’t go to university but I am appalled by how little other people understand about government etc which affects our lives. My carers don’t seem interested , I go on social media locally vast majority repeat the same shit daily mail say I find it really depressing

Based on which policies (apart from the poorly executed but actually sensible means tested WFA) ?

Nowadays the success or not of a government seems to be based on the amount of froth right wing and left wing papers can summon up rather than actual policies.

I agree that we have a horribly uneducated, misinformed and disinterested electorate. And it suits too many people who hold real power in this country to keep things that way.

But those are the cards that our politicians have been dealt and ultimately if they fail to persuade enough of the electorate to vote for them, that's on them.

Their media management is lacklustre and they need better quality political advisors too. Someone should have been strong enough to tell Rachel Reeves what a terrible idea her WFA plan was, for example. Regardless of whether or not she thought it was merited, it was incredibly poor optics and really hasn't helped.

Thinking Biden controls the weather isn't the same as not wanting the government to get overexcited and blame local councils for not building enough, when building companies are sitting on thousands of planning approved sites, or watching their mortgages double so that they can pay for whatever the unions demand.

Two things should building companies sit on these spaces because they dictate the housing profits etc nope they should not. Nothing wrong with unions hell maybe better protected workforce would be better . Local councils need to be quicker with plann8ng development they do take a long time

Then maybe Labour should chase up the building companies, which they are not doing because the building companies are rich. They've decided to blame the local councils and 'nimbys' instead, which ultimately proves they, or their 20 something SPADS, know fuck all about how things work.

For those of u wondering what labour have done in first 100 days

Yes, the 'planning reform'...

West Sussex have approved 8000 planning applications which are now just being sat on by the developers, who are busily applying for more greenfield sites while not building on the ones that they already have.

This budget is going to be a shit show. The next ten years will be horrible.

Not keen on unions then @Fairslice ?

Not when they aren't tempered by a financial plan, no.

I think it is a bit of the pot calling the kettle black to point to the stupidity of some in the United States. If in 2009 you had described something akin to the years 2019-2022 in UK politics, no one would ever have thought it possible.

For all his failings, Donald Trump had not held elected office before becoming political leader of his country, whereas Boris Johnson had as London Mayor and Foreign Secretary.