Ever met someone you later learned had done something really bad? **Content warning: thread contains mentions of child abuse**

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Just asking because a few months ago someone I worked with suddenly stopped coming to work... then we found out he had been found guilty of possessing child porn 😬
He hadn't been working with us for long so didn't know him that well but he just seemed like a nice, slightly boring middle aged man! I know you can't ever tell by looking at someone but it just made me think anyone I know could be doing anything behind closed doors.....

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Bombs? For who? Himself? An organisation?

Oh my goodness!!

Dd went to her open evening at her secondary school in Soham in July 2002 and caretaker was handing out leaflets .. patted my daughter on the head ..
she said she’d chatted to him a few times on her two induction days and that her friends sister and her friends liked to stop by him and his girlfriends house on site to chat as both lovely … his name was Ian Huntley

My neighbour confided in me that her son had served a 5 year prison sentence a few years ago, for attacking another man. She said he "just lost his temper". I feel sorry for her and can understand how she is standing by her son but I must admit I am very wary of him and try to avoid being around him. He acts pleasant enough but I've heard him shouting and swearing at her a few times and I feel quite frightened for her.

Someone my husband worked with (recently) disappeared from work one day and it became known that he had killed his pregnant partner and then himself. Was very surreal. Only a day previously they’d been on a perfectly normal work call (remote roles).

It was very surreal.

I had to provide a load of student data (I work in HE) on some students that it turned out were part of a terrorism threat. I hadn’t met all of them but at least 1 I had been in a lift with regularly. I don’t know exactly what they were planning but I do know they were prosecuted and are in prison. I do wonder what might have been the outcome if they’d not been caught. As I understand it there was no specific involvement of the university, just that they happened to be on roll. I admit I do look at all the students now trying to spot any signs.

They very often get it wrong and ruin lives. They’ve also been responsible for the death of innocent people.

We have to take people on trust to some extent, isolating yourself makes more vulnerable ofc. But otoh I think you have to always be slightly aware that people may not be who you think they are.
I'm doing history at uni, & I've been looking at folklore as part of that. Often stories where people inexplicably change or behave evilly w no explanation are called unrealistic. Obvs to some extent they are, but I think they're also a way people coped w this issue : that esp to children, but also to adults, people can hide their true face & do horrible things without any seeming explanation.

heh heh heh everyone is going nuts and jumping to conclusions-oh! With only a small bit of info. Man gave me his passcodes i never asked for them. The rest is just my internal dialogue, but the facts are provided by his own chosen behaviour.

On a more serious note, for people who've affected by CSA the trust is never automatic with anyone ever again, and that's one of the many reasons why it's such a terrible crime.

Yes it's worth saying this because a number of PPs on this thread are saying Carr didn't know.

The senior officers involved in the investigation strongly believe - and have stated, in documentaries and also to Nathan Yates who wrote the definitive book on the subject - that Carr did know. Not straightaway but within 24 hours of her return to the house.

An eyewitness told the police she saw Carr and Huntley 2 days after the murders, standing over the open boot of Huntley's car outside the house, looking into the boot. The eyewitness says she saw Carr visibly distraught. Then Huntley saw the eyewitness and hurriedly closed the boot.

Police believe that the bodies of the two girls were in the car and Huntley was showing Carr before he took the bodies to the site they were found near the hamlet of Wangford near Lakenheath. They also believe that this was a calculated move of Huntley's, to give Carr the criminal knowledge, so she was tied closer to him and would lie for him. He did abuse her.

Now I don't know if this was proven in court because a single eyewitness (who was on the other side of the road with her dog) could easily be destroyed and discredited by a defence barrister. Single eyewitnesses don't generlly count for much in court. But the police believe she knew even if they could not prove it.

I think it’s worth mentioning that Huntley has always said (obviously a load of nonsense) that the girls died accidentally (!) - he says one of them had a nosebleed and hit their head and then died (he says this is why he took them to the bathroom, ie the nosebleed) and the other started screaming and in his attempts to stop them screaming he “accidentally” killed them. He probably told Carr this version of the story. How anyone could believe this absolute bollocks is beyond me but it’s possible she did. She may not have thought he actually murdered them. I have no doubt she knew she was covering something dreadful up though.

Two things spring to mind.

A colleague was charged with grooming underage girls, brilliant chap, well respected, liked by everyone, went on skiing holidays him and several colleagues. When it emerged, he’d lied through his teeth to get people to write character references for him. Couldn’t believe that someone so obviously brilliant was stupid enough to think he wouldn’t get caught. Never any contact but a huge amount of time spent on line be a 15 year old boy.

My dad sold a car to someone before I was born and him and my mum got a knock on the door and it was the police. Dad was interviewed about the car and who he sold it to and when he sold it. It’s only when the moors murderers were arrested, he recognised Ian Brady.

AliasGrace47 that's fascinating - the folklore stuff. How people coped.

My neighbour and childhood friend. He raped a young woman when she was intoxicated and had passed out at a house party.

Vile, vile man

Just thought of another one. Used to live on a small development of 4 houses. We had a shared access drive for the properties. One day driving to work the access was blocked by a TV camera. Got out and asked what was going on and was asked about the lady in no.3 who’d recently moved to the area from Cheshire. Turned out she was an itu sister who had been giving patients a little too much morphine to clear bed blocks.

Thanks, almond- it's just my theory I have a hunch about!

Yes I think this is what he told her. And she believed him, or in cognitive dissonance 'decided' to believe him because the truth was too horrible to contemplate.

Carr would've known at this point about Huntley's previous conviction and paedophile allegations. I also do not discount the possibility that she was scared he would harm her, or possibly he even threatened to.

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Are you sure your dad didn't make that up?

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Carr was probably terrified of him. Her brain will have shut down to everything but survival.

I can't find reference to that interview so can't substantiate it - I think the right to privacy ruling has made it harder to find things. I remember it though. But even without that there is enough proven out there that she would be scared for her life.

Bingle, did you have to post exactly what he did? The stuff of nightmares....

I went to secondary school with a boy who later, when we had turned 18, was sentenced to over a decade in prison for grooming and SA'ing younger boys when we were at school together!! Absolutely horrendous!!!

I went to school with a lad who later murdered his wife and kept her body in the boot of his car for a week. He then killed himself. He was one of the nicest lads at school, he went out with my best friend and he came from a lovely family. I was so shocked when I found out what he'd done.

Jeez I know. Made me clench. TMI

You've probably met more yourself than you think!

I apologise, I wanted to show what she was facing but I was insensitive. I have reported my post.