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Thread 9 Starmer : Return to Westminster

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DuncinToffee · 02/10/2024 16:58

Previous thread:

https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5169266-thread-8-starmer-cat-fur-on-new-clothes?page=40&reply=138729672

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Errolwasahero · 15/10/2024 07:32

I do get it, but it certainly leaves a nasty taste and I worry more of those voters will be attracted by reform in a few years’ time.

actually, the whole ‘Freeports’ thing seems mighty dodgy…

BIossomtoes · 15/10/2024 07:42

Damned if they do and damned if they don’t. The success of this government is predicated on growth, if that means a charm offensive on potential investors it’s fine by me. It’s really annoying to find none of main news outlets carrying the story of the new £63 billion investment this morning.

Alexandra2001 · 15/10/2024 07:51

Errolwasahero · 14/10/2024 22:10

I have to say I’m really annoyed by the continued arse-licking to DP world. Many people who were shafted by P&O’s sacking of all their employees in 2022 feel supremely let down. Labour talked the talk then but it looks like they couldn’t give a shit now. Yet another own goal 😤

news.sky.com/story/pando-sackings-brazen-ferry-boss-should-quit-says-grant-shapps-as-he-vows-to-change-law-12574601

How on earth can you say that?

Labour are changing the law to prevent it happening again, a whole lot better than crap from Schapps mouth, the Tories had 2 years to ban the practice but didn't.

Whether we like it or not, P&O manage the UKs busiest crossings & we need container ports.

Alexandra2001 · 15/10/2024 07:53

BIossomtoes · 15/10/2024 07:42

Damned if they do and damned if they don’t. The success of this government is predicated on growth, if that means a charm offensive on potential investors it’s fine by me. It’s really annoying to find none of main news outlets carrying the story of the new £63 billion investment this morning.

Well, they wouldn't would they.

Much better to focus on Taylor Swift had a police escort......... thats what really matters.

Notonthestairs · 15/10/2024 07:56

Labour has committed to banning fire and rehire.

Legislation that Reform or the Consservative party will almost certainly oppose and wissh to over turn or weaken at a later stage.

So if Labour voters do switch to Reform on the basis of the £1bn investment DP World then I can only think fire and rehire isn't all that far up their list of priorities.

PickAChew · 15/10/2024 08:16

Alexandra2001 · 15/10/2024 07:53

Well, they wouldn't would they.

Much better to focus on Taylor Swift had a police escort......... thats what really matters.

Or on the "that man is stealing all your cookies" trope. The torygraph headline that popped up on my ipad, this morning, was about the unemployed being given weight loss drugs to get them back to work. I'm expecting some froth about that on AIBU.

Zonder · 15/10/2024 08:27

Honestly, and there are still people on MN who will argue that the MSM isn't biased against Labour!

Elodie9 · 15/10/2024 08:34

̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣̣I have been so impressed with the work Sir Keir and the Labour party did behind the scenes in preparation for government.
Things didn't happen overnight . So much preparation and discussions to get to this point. I have never in all my years seen an opposition party work like this before.
And I say this as an older person who won't be getting the winter fuel allowance!
Wages need to go up, funded by the big businesses who make excessive profits and wouldn't it be fab if the press got behind the UK ?
Still , while they are still reporting all the Tory dramas the Govt can be getting on with the important things.

DuncinToffee · 15/10/2024 08:36

Lots of froth about Rayner and Haigh's comments supposedly losing the P&O investment but near radio silence about the 60bn investment

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Notonthestairs · 15/10/2024 08:41

DuncinToffee · 15/10/2024 08:36

Lots of froth about Rayner and Haigh's comments supposedly losing the P&O investment but near radio silence about the 60bn investment

Controversially I think it is a win.
We've had a front page reminder of what went on at P&O and therefore the compelling need for the legislation to ban it.
And investment.

countrygirl99 · 15/10/2024 08:43

I've seen 2 posts whinging about the weight loss jabs already

Piggywaspushed · 15/10/2024 08:44

DuncinToffee · 15/10/2024 08:38

Children's Commissioner has published her report

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cy435yk4vj4o

Oh but that's OK because they don't have to walk barefoot to school once diagnosed.

<note: heavy sarcasm>

DuncinToffee · 15/10/2024 08:46

Piggywaspushed · 15/10/2024 08:44

Oh but that's OK because they don't have to walk barefoot to school once diagnosed.

<note: heavy sarcasm>

People used to cope............

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PickAChew · 15/10/2024 08:49

DuncinToffee · 15/10/2024 08:46

People used to cope............

Nothing a bit of discipline couldn't fix 🙄

Notonthestairs · 15/10/2024 08:51

"People used to cope..........."

That really is the message from that pamphlet.
As was written yesterday on a different thread - we have become too 'compassionate'.

Errolwasahero · 15/10/2024 08:57

Thanks for the input about the investments; I agree if they do effectively ban the poor practices that have been allowed it will be a positive. I do fear the msm won’t make that apparent and many will miss it (as I did!) but we can 🤞

DuncinToffee · 15/10/2024 09:00

Sadly, Taylor Swift's security escort is more important than Labour's Employment Right's bill to msm

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RockaLock · 15/10/2024 09:01

DuncinToffee · 15/10/2024 08:36

Lots of froth about Rayner and Haigh's comments supposedly losing the P&O investment but near radio silence about the 60bn investment

On the contrary, I have seen lots of coverage of the £63bn.

However, a lot of the coverage points out that far from it being "new" investment, a large proportion of it was actually announced before the GE.

Add to that the fact that a lot of the investment is for new wind farms, which are heavily subsidised by the government, and you have to wonder how much net "new investment" there actually is.

PandoraSox · 15/10/2024 09:05

PickAChew · 15/10/2024 08:16

Or on the "that man is stealing all your cookies" trope. The torygraph headline that popped up on my ipad, this morning, was about the unemployed being given weight loss drugs to get them back to work. I'm expecting some froth about that on AIBU.

Frothing has commenced. The feckless unemployed will not use the injections, but will sell them on the streets. Classic Mumsnet hatred of benefit recipients.

Notonthestairs · 15/10/2024 09:10

Good to know that investors have faith in the new administration.

RafaistheKingofClay · 15/10/2024 09:11

It’s weirdly fascinating. Streeting wrote the piece for the DT but doesn’t appear to have said what the DT subsequently reported him as saying in their article on it. That DT article then appears to have been picked up by all sorts of places and now the story is about unemployed obese people.

This is good for AIBU which hates both people on benefits and obese people. Win-win.

DuncinToffee · 15/10/2024 09:12

RockaLock · 15/10/2024 09:01

On the contrary, I have seen lots of coverage of the £63bn.

However, a lot of the coverage points out that far from it being "new" investment, a large proportion of it was actually announced before the GE.

Add to that the fact that a lot of the investment is for new wind farms, which are heavily subsidised by the government, and you have to wonder how much net "new investment" there actually is.

I don't understand what you are saying with it not being 'new'investment, can you link to the articles you have read on that?

£63bn and 38,000 jobs for UK is good.

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DuncinToffee · 15/10/2024 09:17

It feels like people just read the DT headline and start a froth thread about it.

I don't know if anyone saw the headline about Starmer changing paintings, cue outrage, read beyond it and you see it was a change planned long before the election Confused

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newnamethanks · 15/10/2024 09:21

I thought changing paintings was Nasty Bob's job?

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