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Can I work in a nursery after having 2 kids removed from my care when I was 20?

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booknerdxo · 02/10/2024 11:34

Long post ahead!

Just a bit of a back story,

When I was 19 I had two kids that were removed from my care and I was in a really abusive relationship. My boyfriend at the time didn’t abuse or touch the kids, I just want to make that clear. He did the bare minimum when it came to being a dad to them, he was more concerned with drugs and whatever girl he could get with.
I put him first, I could not see clearly what was right in front of me, I was very young and stupid and I put him before my kids even when everyone including social services had basically told me to leave him.
We lost the kids after we had went for a walk and the police had stopped us to search us, as he was acting suspicious so they said. The police had said he smelt like weed and referred us to social services, we already had a social worker due to reports of his temper in public places. I left the kids to my mum, which I was advised to do by the social worker and we had gone through all these meetings, which he failed to attend with me, I was a wreck from losing the kids that I still stayed hooked on him. A few weeks later, I found out I was pregnant and my social worker at the time was the one to convince me to keep the baby when I had said I couldn’t do this with my two kids in care. She had hinted to get rid of him but I didn’t still I thought that he would change for us to get the kids back but I finally opened my eyes and asked for help to leave when he beat me 5 months pregnant in front of his friends. One of his friends called my social worker for me, got me out of the house and they had picked me up and put me in supported living which they had already had a flat waiting for me was just waiting for me to want to use it.
I went through depression and anxiety, I isolated myself for 2 months but one day I woke up and I was not going to let this man win. I had finally opened my eyes. I went out and got my unborn babies stuff ready for her, all new clothes, her furniture, everything she absolutely needed I had finally got her a month before I was due to have her. I asked for help to get counselling sorting and I saw my therapist for 2/3 years and it helped me so much.
The problem was, I was now 20 and I had my youngest DD home with me under a CPR and my older two were in foster care and we were in and out of court, I was undergoing assessments after assessments and the social worker didn’t think I’d cope with 3 kids and to be completely honest, which I didn’t admit at the time I was totally scared at the thought of having 3 kids on my own. 3 kids under the age of 4 at the age of 20. I just felt like I needed to fight for my kids, they had pushed for an adoption and I had helped pick a lovely family, we met a few times, on our own and with all the kids. It was then that I finally knew that giving this family my two children was the best choice for everyone. I now see my two kids every half term and regular video calls and letters as well We have such a great relationship with the parents as well. We are always included in absolutely everything they plan. I haven’t had social workers in 4 years now and I’m 7 years older, wiser and stronger. I’m a great mum to my DD who is now 6 and I’ve accepted the whole situation a very long time ago. I’m mentally okay, no more therapist, I’m just living a great life. I still stay in contact with my social worker, I meet her for lunch every so often to catch up, she played such an important part of my life and I couldn’t imagine us never seeing her again. The boyfriend at the time now has 11 kids with 4 different woman mine being the oldest.

Since I was a teenager, I have wanted to work with children in a nursery, it was my first job at 16 and I didn’t finish my apprenticeship due to getting pregnant a year in my placement and not thinking I could do both.

I have not tried to work in a nursery in over 10 years due to dealing with that and then being scared I couldn’t actually work with kids.

I’ve been offered a nursery position now, I’ve completed my police background check, two references and my medical form but now they are going to send it off to social services for vetting and I’m worried this will be what decides I can’t work there. The manager that done my interview and induction is confident that it won’t be a problem. But I can’t help be nervous. Does anyone have any advice or know anyone that’s had something similar?
My social worker that I still meet for lunch also said it shouldn’t be a problem and she was one of my references but I obviously am totally in my head with it

No judgement. I completely own up to my mistakes and I pay for it every single day. The kids are totally happy and thriving and they know who we are and the gists of what happened

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Boidont · 02/10/2024 11:39

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Unexpectedlysinglemum · 02/10/2024 11:44

Hi OP well done for turning your life around and doing the best you can do for all of your children.
I don't think your personal children experiences would show on an enhanced DBS - even if you DID get in another abusive relationship (and it sounds like you have no plans to) I can't see how that would harm the children in the nursery (just the child that lives with you). I think you'll be ok.
Congratulations on your job offer xx

TomatoSandwiches · 02/10/2024 11:46

It sounds like you had a bad start and have eventually turned your life around by what you've written.
You should be proud and relieved you managed this and I'm sure grateful for the support you were given.

I think you would be an asset in a childcare setting with your background and hopefully training/qualifications you are going to be working towards, I'm sure it will have inspired a different level of compassion and empathy, you will also be very aware of potential safe guarding signs that need to be addressed.

I think you should trust your ex Social worker and even if things don't go to plan you know from the past that it doesn't mean the end of it, pick yourself up and try again.

Good luck.

TakeMe2Insanity · 02/10/2024 11:52

I think you’ve done really well to turn your life around.

LadyKenya · 02/10/2024 11:54

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Do you know everything about the people that actually do? No you don't. I see no reason why the OP could not work in a nursery. She sounds like she would pose no threat to the children.

JackieGoodman · 02/10/2024 11:55

I think if the manager and your social worker think it won't be a problem then it probably shouldn't.

Well done for turning your life around Flowers

dixkybow · 02/10/2024 11:56

TomatoSandwiches · 02/10/2024 11:46

It sounds like you had a bad start and have eventually turned your life around by what you've written.
You should be proud and relieved you managed this and I'm sure grateful for the support you were given.

I think you would be an asset in a childcare setting with your background and hopefully training/qualifications you are going to be working towards, I'm sure it will have inspired a different level of compassion and empathy, you will also be very aware of potential safe guarding signs that need to be addressed.

I think you should trust your ex Social worker and even if things don't go to plan you know from the past that it doesn't mean the end of it, pick yourself up and try again.

Good luck.

Can you explain how OP would be an asset because of her background? I don't really see it?

I'm not saying OP shouldn't be allowed to work in a nursery, I just can't see how her experience is going to bring anything 'extra' to the job. I would be far too concerned for OP that being around nursery children brings up deep trauma; even though she still has her DD.

SillyOlivePanda · 02/10/2024 11:57

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Theres always one eh.

OP sounds like you’ve done so well for yourself and your lovely children turning things around. That takes a lot of resilience and grit. For what it’s worth as a parent through adoption I’d be very happy for you to look after mine in a nursery

yeesh · 02/10/2024 11:57

whatever happens with the job don’t let it hold you back. You have done a fantastic job to get your life back on track and give your children the best life. You should be very proud of yourself 👌

Boidont · 02/10/2024 11:58

The OP asked and I’ve given my opinion 🤷🏻‍♀️ You don’t have to agree with me

DaisyChain505 · 02/10/2024 11:59

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Harsh.

as long as you have no criminal record I don’t see why it would stop you getting the job.

well done for turning your life around OP

BlueEyedLeucy · 02/10/2024 11:59

I don’t see why not - you’ve turned your life around and you pose no risk to children. If anything, I think having people with different (often not perfect) life experiences makes a workplace whole. I hope you get the job and keep your upward trend. Our mistakes shouldn’t define our entire future. We live, learn and grow.

LemonPeonies · 02/10/2024 11:59

I think you eventually did the right thing but unfortunately too little, too late. You should have put your children first from the beginning and I feel sorry for the 2 children who are growing up seeing their mum keeping one child but not them, they'll have a lot of trauma to deal with. In regards to working in a nursery, if you have the skills then go for it.

Callmemummynotmaaa · 02/10/2024 12:00

OP I’m not sure what the implications could be for work - it may be that you have to share your story, but I hope it goes well for you. I wanted to comment and just say, it sounds like you’ve been brave and strong in leaving and building a life for yourself and enabling one for all of your children. Your post is one of the most balanced reflective posts I’ve read. Lots of us can’t take back things we’ve done in the past. It shapes us but doesn’t define us. I hope you get the opportunities you want for your future.

JackieGoodman · 02/10/2024 12:01

But agree with @TomatoSandwiches try not to be too disheartened if its not to be.

Tricho · 02/10/2024 12:05

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then you best pull him out of whatever nursery he's in now unless you know everything abotu everyone that works there.

There but for the grace of god etc

YouveGotAFastCar · 02/10/2024 12:06

Vetting isn't usually with social services - is that definitely what is happening?

Typically vetting checks that you're not barred from working with children or adults, and it doesn't sound like you are, so you should come back from that fine.

If anything regarding the abusive relationship was going to be declared, it'd have been put on as "relevant notes" by the police, and it sounds like you've already got your DBS back.

It's good that you've been upfront and honest with the manager.

Good luck!

readysteadynono · 02/10/2024 12:07

Well done on taking all those hard steps to turn your life around. I really hope this doesn't prevent a barrier. I don't think it should.

LadyKenya · 02/10/2024 12:07

Tricho · 02/10/2024 12:05

then you best pull him out of whatever nursery he's in now unless you know everything abotu everyone that works there.

There but for the grace of god etc

Exactly.

readysteadynono · 02/10/2024 12:07

PS ignore the negative comments.

Korn4 · 02/10/2024 12:09

I can see how people may be uncomfortable in knowing your background, but if you are judged because of this then those people are very closed minded. As long as your enhanced DBS is clear and you pose no threat to the children you care for - I can't see why not.
Well done for turning your life around, it isn't easy and you deserve praise for that and shouldn't be judged for your past.

viques · 02/10/2024 12:10

Are you still in touch with the social worker? Would she be willing to talk to them on your behalf, I don’t imagine she would be allowed to give a reference, but very often a verbal chat can be a positive nudge.

booknerdxo · 02/10/2024 12:10

LemonPeonies · 02/10/2024 11:59

I think you eventually did the right thing but unfortunately too little, too late. You should have put your children first from the beginning and I feel sorry for the 2 children who are growing up seeing their mum keeping one child but not them, they'll have a lot of trauma to deal with. In regards to working in a nursery, if you have the skills then go for it.

I totally get that, no one is forgotten here and any questions they have for me, they ask or if they don't want to ask to my face then they write it to me and I answer the same way. I had my first assessment when my youngest was 2 weeks old. It wasn't a matter of me getting pregnant after I had lost them, I already was. We made a child friendly book that explains everything that happened, one for their house and one for ours. Everything and everyone has been very open and honest no matter how much it may make people uncomfortable. If they decide to cut contact with me, I'll 100% accept that because it's their choices and I don't want to push anymore heartache onto them, then I already have and you are totally right I was 'too little, too late'

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Loulo6098 · 02/10/2024 12:10

If what you're saying is the whole truth, you're an inspiration to many. I hope you get your chance!

unmemorableusername · 02/10/2024 12:11

There's no legal reason why you shouldn't be. You aren't on the barred from working with kids list and havent committed a crime.

There may be nursery managers who don't want you and if you are local parents may find out and kick off.

But you can still try.

Good luck.

(Ignore the mean people)