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Can I work in a nursery after having 2 kids removed from my care when I was 20?

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booknerdxo · 02/10/2024 11:34

Long post ahead!

Just a bit of a back story,

When I was 19 I had two kids that were removed from my care and I was in a really abusive relationship. My boyfriend at the time didn’t abuse or touch the kids, I just want to make that clear. He did the bare minimum when it came to being a dad to them, he was more concerned with drugs and whatever girl he could get with.
I put him first, I could not see clearly what was right in front of me, I was very young and stupid and I put him before my kids even when everyone including social services had basically told me to leave him.
We lost the kids after we had went for a walk and the police had stopped us to search us, as he was acting suspicious so they said. The police had said he smelt like weed and referred us to social services, we already had a social worker due to reports of his temper in public places. I left the kids to my mum, which I was advised to do by the social worker and we had gone through all these meetings, which he failed to attend with me, I was a wreck from losing the kids that I still stayed hooked on him. A few weeks later, I found out I was pregnant and my social worker at the time was the one to convince me to keep the baby when I had said I couldn’t do this with my two kids in care. She had hinted to get rid of him but I didn’t still I thought that he would change for us to get the kids back but I finally opened my eyes and asked for help to leave when he beat me 5 months pregnant in front of his friends. One of his friends called my social worker for me, got me out of the house and they had picked me up and put me in supported living which they had already had a flat waiting for me was just waiting for me to want to use it.
I went through depression and anxiety, I isolated myself for 2 months but one day I woke up and I was not going to let this man win. I had finally opened my eyes. I went out and got my unborn babies stuff ready for her, all new clothes, her furniture, everything she absolutely needed I had finally got her a month before I was due to have her. I asked for help to get counselling sorting and I saw my therapist for 2/3 years and it helped me so much.
The problem was, I was now 20 and I had my youngest DD home with me under a CPR and my older two were in foster care and we were in and out of court, I was undergoing assessments after assessments and the social worker didn’t think I’d cope with 3 kids and to be completely honest, which I didn’t admit at the time I was totally scared at the thought of having 3 kids on my own. 3 kids under the age of 4 at the age of 20. I just felt like I needed to fight for my kids, they had pushed for an adoption and I had helped pick a lovely family, we met a few times, on our own and with all the kids. It was then that I finally knew that giving this family my two children was the best choice for everyone. I now see my two kids every half term and regular video calls and letters as well We have such a great relationship with the parents as well. We are always included in absolutely everything they plan. I haven’t had social workers in 4 years now and I’m 7 years older, wiser and stronger. I’m a great mum to my DD who is now 6 and I’ve accepted the whole situation a very long time ago. I’m mentally okay, no more therapist, I’m just living a great life. I still stay in contact with my social worker, I meet her for lunch every so often to catch up, she played such an important part of my life and I couldn’t imagine us never seeing her again. The boyfriend at the time now has 11 kids with 4 different woman mine being the oldest.

Since I was a teenager, I have wanted to work with children in a nursery, it was my first job at 16 and I didn’t finish my apprenticeship due to getting pregnant a year in my placement and not thinking I could do both.

I have not tried to work in a nursery in over 10 years due to dealing with that and then being scared I couldn’t actually work with kids.

I’ve been offered a nursery position now, I’ve completed my police background check, two references and my medical form but now they are going to send it off to social services for vetting and I’m worried this will be what decides I can’t work there. The manager that done my interview and induction is confident that it won’t be a problem. But I can’t help be nervous. Does anyone have any advice or know anyone that’s had something similar?
My social worker that I still meet for lunch also said it shouldn’t be a problem and she was one of my references but I obviously am totally in my head with it

No judgement. I completely own up to my mistakes and I pay for it every single day. The kids are totally happy and thriving and they know who we are and the gists of what happened

OP posts:
HappierTimesAhead · 02/10/2024 12:37

@booknerdxo I'm sorry for everything you and your children have been through. Well done on turning your life around, it must have been incredibly hard.
I find it upsetting that people are judging you so harshly and saying nothing about the father. You and your children are victims of his abuse (abuse that I imagine was much more complicated and horrendous than you have detailed here).
Wishing you all the very best.

Notagoodrule · 02/10/2024 12:38

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Wtf? How horrible can you be ?

OP you sound very reflective and aware of what went wrong and I see no reason why if you have the relevant qualifications and references why you can’t work in a nursery Flowers

NeedToChangeName · 02/10/2024 12:38

Your children were adopted but you still see them every half term? And you meet their social worker for lunch?

Doesn't sound like any adoption I've come across..........

gapattachment · 02/10/2024 12:40

My concern would be that it would be retraumatising for you and that it might reopen wounds you thought had healed.

TheAlertCrow · 02/10/2024 12:40

HappierTimesAhead · 02/10/2024 12:37

@booknerdxo I'm sorry for everything you and your children have been through. Well done on turning your life around, it must have been incredibly hard.
I find it upsetting that people are judging you so harshly and saying nothing about the father. You and your children are victims of his abuse (abuse that I imagine was much more complicated and horrendous than you have detailed here).
Wishing you all the very best.

Agree. Not that it’s any of my business, but I’d be very happy for you or someone with your background to look after my kids. Good luck.

wowzelcat · 02/10/2024 12:40

Boidont · 02/10/2024 11:58

The OP asked and I’ve given my opinion 🤷🏻‍♀️ You don’t have to agree with me

Ok, I don’t agree with you.

Pred1cament · 02/10/2024 12:41

You sound amazing and an inspiration to many. I would be happy for you to work at my son’s nursery x

booknerdxo · 02/10/2024 12:42

NeedToChangeName · 02/10/2024 12:38

Your children were adopted but you still see them every half term? And you meet their social worker for lunch?

Doesn't sound like any adoption I've come across..........

It's an open adoption, none of the kids have a social worker anymore.

OP posts:
Clarabella77 · 02/10/2024 12:42

dixkybow · 02/10/2024 11:56

Can you explain how OP would be an asset because of her background? I don't really see it?

I'm not saying OP shouldn't be allowed to work in a nursery, I just can't see how her experience is going to bring anything 'extra' to the job. I would be far too concerned for OP that being around nursery children brings up deep trauma; even though she still has her DD.

It sounds very much like she has worked through her past experiences and choices and is in a strong stable place mentally.

Those life experiences at a young age could make her very adept at spotting signs of a troubled home life in young people in her care, and as others suggest she will have high levels of empathy and compassion for many of the different types of families you meet st a childcare setting.

memyselfi · 02/10/2024 12:43

Op ,
referencing your reply ,
'absolution' not an absolute outcome on your job application .

Dontlletmedownbruce · 02/10/2024 12:43

It sounds like you've done well OP and I'm glad you spoke to your manager. What will be will be, but I think it wouldn't help you to tell your backstory to too many people. If you feel the need to explain you could say you had children young who were given up for adoption. What you don't want is for gossip to get around parents or colleagues that you had SS involved and a child taken off you only a few years ago, they will immediately jump to wrong conclusions about neglect or abuse. I think you need to be very careful.

Also if you find it's taking its toll emotionally you should move into a different field. You will see kids looking and behaving like your eldest kids and it will bring memories back and that might be difficult.

Fromage · 02/10/2024 12:44

The decision making part of a child’s brain is not fully mature until 25. Yes you made a mistake but you turned your life around and well done you. I hope you continue to go from strength to strength

Fully agree.

NINETEEN YEARS OLD when her two children were removed

TWENTY YEARS OLD when she had her third child and turned everything around.

Now at 27 she is an entirely different person.

When I was nineteen I stole things from shops. I wasn't caught but I was still a thief. What arsehole would judge me for that now I am an adult.

She didn't hurt her children, she was in an abusive relationship - she was the victim ffs.

It's a good thing, judgypants brigade, that none of you have experience of that type of that relationship....for you. But it's shit to be judged for 'decisions' you made as a child, when your options were limited.

NinaOakley · 02/10/2024 12:44

You bloody brilliant woman! I am deeply impressed you have been so brave and strong and come so far. I would have complete confidence in you looking after my kids, and I’m sure you’ll have great empathy with any families who are struggling. You’ve clearly been honest with the manager at interview and really it’ll be down to them. If what comes back on the DBS tallies with what you’ve told them it really won’t matter.

Best of luck for your bright future😍

NeedToChangeName · 02/10/2024 12:45

booknerdxo · 02/10/2024 12:42

It's an open adoption, none of the kids have a social worker anymore.

Open adoption makes more sense

Even if the social worker is no longer involved professionally, I'm still surprised they would meet you socially

Ratfinkstinkypink · 02/10/2024 12:47

NeedToChangeName · 02/10/2024 12:38

Your children were adopted but you still see them every half term? And you meet their social worker for lunch?

Doesn't sound like any adoption I've come across..........

There is a big move towards more open adoption in this country, I think it is the UEA who have done a lot of research around a more open model. I am a foster carer and it is something the LA I work for are encouraging when it is in the best interests of the child.

MillionaireCaramel · 02/10/2024 12:48

Most people have something in their past they're not proud of, or that was very traumatic, or both. I think some posters on here are ignoring the trauma the OP went through. Giving up 2 children must have been incredibly hard, but the OP did what was best for them.

OP, I wish you the best of luck. I don't know much about the legal side, but if you've been reassured it shouldn't be a problem then it shouldn't be one.

SapphireOpal · 02/10/2024 12:48

OP I don't have much to add but I just wanted to say I think you're a bloody strong, brilliant young woman and I hope you come to work at my kids nursery!

Bringautumnnights · 02/10/2024 12:48

I cant see why it would matter, particularly if your social worker and your recruiting manager don't think its a problem - they're the experts here so i'd lean towards trusting them.

Honestly, maybe terrible of me, but I know nothing about the staff who work at my sons nursery outside of their name. Their history and personal life is just that - personal. So long as they're qualified, passed recruitment checks, not a criminal who would harm my child, and the manager is happy with them, I'm happy - I trust the nursery and those recruited.

I think you may face some initial questioning from staff if you share, however realistically there is no need for you to do so, if the manager is happy then you don't need to worry.

Well done for changing your life around, you're an inspiration to so many others who've found themselves in that position. Hopefully your relationship with your other children stays good, and good luck for the job.

LemonPeonies · 02/10/2024 12:49

OhshutupSimonyounobhead · 02/10/2024 12:21

You could have just typed out the last sentence as OP didn't ask for nor need your judgment. Must be nice up there on your high horse.

I'm being factual, not judgemental. Hardly being on a high horse to say she did well but should have put her children first earlier.

GivingitToGod · 02/10/2024 12:52

TomatoSandwiches · 02/10/2024 11:46

It sounds like you had a bad start and have eventually turned your life around by what you've written.
You should be proud and relieved you managed this and I'm sure grateful for the support you were given.

I think you would be an asset in a childcare setting with your background and hopefully training/qualifications you are going to be working towards, I'm sure it will have inspired a different level of compassion and empathy, you will also be very aware of potential safe guarding signs that need to be addressed.

I think you should trust your ex Social worker and even if things don't go to plan you know from the past that it doesn't mean the end of it, pick yourself up and try again.

Good luck.

This

timeaftertome · 02/10/2024 12:52

This all sounds very traumatic and I'm sorry (mostly for your older children).

I know you don't want judgement and this isn't that - but I don't feel there's enough information about the role you played in the children being removed into care in the OP to answer your question.

What do euphemisms like 'I put him first' actually mean in practice? Because that isn't the language that would be used legally, were you neglecting the children (by exposing them to your partner's 'moods' - another euphemism).

I'm not sure I'd feel that you were suitable for caring for small children if you've neglected small children in the past.

AAudreyHorne · 02/10/2024 12:53

@boidont

Instead of getting your nasty reply deleted, perhaps you could answer the question that some of us asked which was why do you feel like that about the OP?
I'm not being goady, just genuinely interested why you think the experiences of the OP would mean that she wasn't suitable to work in a nursery.

timeaftertome · 02/10/2024 12:55

I'm also not sure how I feel about your ex social worker's assessment of the situation given that she's breached professional boundaries and become a friend you meet for lunch, either.

Again, no judgement, just an objective viewpoint on the situation,

Notagoodrule · 02/10/2024 12:56

NeedToChangeName · 02/10/2024 12:38

Your children were adopted but you still see them every half term? And you meet their social worker for lunch?

Doesn't sound like any adoption I've come across..........

If this is the case though - how amazing for those children to know their birth mother and have a relationship with her, and what a success story that the social worker did her job that well she supported OP and they have stayed on good terms ? Sounds like the perfect adoption to me

Bunnycat101 · 02/10/2024 12:56

Rehabilitation is important. You’ve been open with both your manager and your social worker and if they don’t have an issue then I can’t see it being a barrier. Given there are no concerns re your 6 year old, I can’t see there would be a barrier. You’ve obviously had a rough time with an abusive boyfriend and I think it’s actually quite significant that it was one of his friends that got you out- someone more loyal to him could see what was happening.

However, like a few other posters I’d also be worried about the potential triggering effects of working so closely with small children. If there was any hint of trauma with your youngest, I’d be wary about the impact of being with lots of little ones. My nursery workers were like extended family to my children- they cuddled and bonded with them and were a source of comfort. That could be quite an emotionally charged thing to do given the circs.