Iran has launched missiles into Israel

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Sky News is reporting Iran has launched missiles into Israel. It's very scarey. It should never have got to this escalation. Awful.

Leave therm to it, I say. After each exchange, the other side says they're going to retaliate. So rather than supporting one side or the other or both or neither just let them get on with it over there and don't allow protests from either side over here.

You're anti crap propaganda?

I never said it was a competition
Bit it is a fact that Palestinians are not welcomed by their fellow Arabs. I wonder why.

If you can't see the point there is no hope for you.

Oh good lord. If you think it’s okay to bomb the crap out of civilians who have no defence and nowhere to go, you do you. There were choices.
Hamas are wrong, Hezbollah are wrong. The October 7th attacks were atrocities. But these normal, innocent people - schoolchildren, doctors, shopkeepers, university students, teachers, mothers, babies, etc etc etc etc etc. They all had to die for the cause? Really? A country that can use heat sensitive cameras to check how many people are in a precise room, and then precisely target that room. A country that can use pagers to specifically target Hezbollah members. Really? They couldn’t avoid killing all those thousands of people? You really continue to believe the number one objective is to get the hostages back? This isn’t some crazy conspiracy. Yesterday I was watching the BBC live news channel when they asked a member of the Israeli government how they could justify the destruction of Gaza. And he replied that you have to have many civilian casualties. He said it was normal to kill 10 civilians to get to one terrorist.
Those normal people with families and homes and jobs. Who took their kids to soft play and checked on their elderly parents. They have left their bombed out homes to live in tents. They can’t get medication they are ill. They eat vegetables out of cans. They have seen unimaginable death and destruction. But please continue to write clever little things on Mumsnet.

But at least their whereabouts is common knowledge, and have always been there, during peaceful times. They were not positioned there to use their people as human shields. Unlike Hamas.

but I believe that if things continue to escalate we will experience more and more dangerous and harmful terrorist attacks here in the UK and in Europe. We are part of this. It's naive to think that because it's miles away that we are safe and we won't get hurt.

@worriedhidinginplainsight I think you are probably right. I imagine security will ramp up around the anniversary of the 7th of October attacks. These potential attacks are futile anyway, you want to change how things work ? Don't upset people by indiscriminately killing their loved ones, get people on board, make them laugh at the ridiculousness of it all, make them cry on your behalf, feel empathy for your cause. That goes for all the players in the game.

This

Egypt won't let any refugees from Gaza enter the country because they're afraid Israel won't let them return when the war is over, as if Israel should have any say in whether the Palestinians are allowed back into their own land, absolutely disgusting

That is not why Egyptians aren't offering sanctuary. They are worried that terrorists from Gaza will use any such offer to cause problems in Egypt itself. Jordan had this issue many years ago when the PLO set up there.

The children of refugees automatically gain full citizenship in their host nation - unless they're Palestinians in Arab countries.

Given how long this has been going on, there should be virtually zero Palestinian refugees in neighbouring countries, but those countries deliberately keep the grievance alive by refusing to provide citizenship and forcing people to live in camps.

The suffering of Palestinian refugees in neighbouring countries is an entirely artificial construct of the Arabs.

There are several reasons. First Egypt doesn't want to be seen to be supporting Israeli ethnic cleansing.

Leaked documents from the Israeli government included plans to forcibly move Palestinians into the Sinai Desert. Something

Bezalel Smotrich and Itamar Ben-Gvir have openly advocated for in order to make way for Israeli settlers in Gaza.

Israel’s minister for agriculture, Avi Dichter, said, “We are now rolling out the Gaza Nakba,” adding, “Gaza Nakba 2023. That’s how it’ll end.”

A conference was then held in January this year attended by Netanyahu and other members of parliament where moving Palestinians to Egypt was discussed.

Yes, Egypt is also concerned about Hamas on its territory and dragging Egypt into military conflict and becoming a threat to their regime. Egypt has only just managed to clamp down on insurgents in North Sinai. Obviously there's also a danger that millions of refugees could be destabilising.

Wow, and you think it would be ok for the mad men that rule most of the Middle East to have nuclear weapons? If they think like you, they’ll just use them and to hell with everyone else! You’re deluded to think they’d just have them as a deterrent!

Not to mention increase of terrorist attacks.
And it is a cruel fact that children often survive in tiny pockets of rubble when their entire adult family has died. So Netanyahu isn’t exactly hunting down Hanas - he’s just creating new recruits. Netanyahu will keep it going to avoid answering how it could have happened or to be toppled. The settler encroachment was already aggressive and now the pretence is over. It was our own racism that thought we could treat the Palestinians like that all those years ago.

Are you fucking kidding? Do you really think that no mad politicians (men) and no "rough men" needing to do violence in anyone's behalf would not be significantly better?

It's always men who seem utterly unable to solve anything without violence. Always men who show complete disregard for life.

Men should be forbidden from holding any position of power.

Yeah.... Please explain how installing pacifist women in positions of power, in Israel and the West, would work out when bloodthirsty Islamist men are running the countries of the Middle East.

@Snakebite61 "Good for Iran"???

Seriously?

OK. So you think Iran is justified in launching missiles into Israel in support of their (banned terrorist) allies, Hezbollah. Does that mean that America is justified in launching missiles into Iran in support of their allies, Israel?

This man bashing gets a bit tedious, They aren't all Putin and Kim Jong un or whatever his name is. Get a grip.

It isn't. Shows what you know. Graduated from TikTok university?

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