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Iran has launched missiles into Israel

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Viviennemary · 01/10/2024 17:40

Sky News is reporting Iran has launched missiles into Israel. It's very scarey. It should never have got to this escalation. Awful.

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ToBeDetermined · 01/10/2024 23:44

summerlemons · 01/10/2024 23:27

I don’t find the info in that link very clear. It also says:

That is why after assessing the latest available advice, I have taken the difficult decision to suspend certain arms licences for exports from the UK to Israel.

I hope I’m wrong, but “certain” arms licences sounds to me like others are still being supplied. Either way the website could be clearer.

I re-read and I think that refers to this:
“UK components for the multi-national F-35 joint strike fighter programme will be excluded from this decision, except where going directly to Israel.
Any suspension of those pooled parts is not possible without having a significant effect on the global F35 fleet with serious implications for international peace and security.”

So the U.K. could export F-35 components to the US and the US can hand them off to Israel. Maybe that is why they had to say “certain” because they can’t stop indirect supply of F-35 components. The F-35 is the fighter jet used by US, EU, U.K. and other NATO allies like Israel. It was originally called the Joint Strike Fighter (JSF) as the countries pooled money to jointly develop it to save costs.

worriedhidinginplainsight · 01/10/2024 23:59

I'm really sad for the innocent people living in the Middle East.

I'm worried that this will increase the likelihood of terror attacks here in the UK. There is so much anger. It seems unresolvable. And the anger is increasing. And naturally it will increase because there is never an answer, there is never really a solution that all sides wholeheartedly believe in.

To some extent I understand previous posters who say it's been going on for years, and nothing ever escalates outside of the ongoing tension and the on off conflict in that part of the world. But, I personally think that over time the anger,frustration and resentment is increasing. I don't think that the status quo will be maintained forever and at some point it is going to escalate out of control.

Also, I understand people saying that they are not worried about ww3, it won't affect us, won't be a land war, no country will use a nuclear weapon..... but I believe that if things continue to escalate we will experience more and more dangerous and harmful terrorist attacks here in the UK and in Europe. We are part of this. It's naive to think that because it's miles away that we are safe and we won't get hurt.

So overall, we do need to stop and take notice. Not worry, because that won't change anything. But learn about what's happening and tell our government what we want to do in all of this.

I am actually quite concerned now.

worriedhidinginplainsight · 02/10/2024 00:01

@Gremlins101 I agree with you. See my pp.

worriedhidinginplainsight · 02/10/2024 00:08

Although I did check the gov.uk website earlier and it says the chance of a terrorist attack is 'substantial', which is quite reassuring. That's the lowest it has ever been over the last few decades. The higher levels are serious and critical and we are not there for now.

Onand · 02/10/2024 01:05

Absolutely awful for the people of Israel. What happens next is anyones guess however I wouldn’t be surprised to see this escalating out of control and into a much wider far reaching conflict. For everyone’s sake let’s hope this isn’t he case.

RugbyMom123 · 02/10/2024 01:18

Salmoney · 01/10/2024 19:32

It's hard to tell who is posting in good faith and who is just writing the most ridiculous thing they can think of for the effect.

To be fair it’s true.

No one’s getting involved in the Ukraine /russia situation precisely because putin has the biggest nukes.

Israel are literally bombing / invading Lebanon. Iran weren’t going to do nothing.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 02/10/2024 01:22

Onand · 02/10/2024 01:05

Absolutely awful for the people of Israel. What happens next is anyones guess however I wouldn’t be surprised to see this escalating out of control and into a much wider far reaching conflict. For everyone’s sake let’s hope this isn’t he case.

It is indeed awful for the people of Israel.

And it's awful for the people of Gaza, Lebanon and Iran too.

My heart goes out to all of the innocent people who are being affected by this.

SantaPellegrina · 02/10/2024 03:22

justasking111 · 01/10/2024 21:40

I've never been to Israel or the middle east so wouldn't know how civilised they are whatever that means.

My son worked in the middle east for a couple of years. He knew a number of arabs who were wealthy. He asked once what would happen if their oil ran out. Their reply, we'd go back to living in tents. I thought that was an interesting attitude.

Did he really asked that? How incredibly crass.
But in any case I think you'd find they would be in a better position than us after the empire ran out.

Gummybear23 · 02/10/2024 07:02

Onand · 02/10/2024 01:05

Absolutely awful for the people of Israel. What happens next is anyones guess however I wouldn’t be surprised to see this escalating out of control and into a much wider far reaching conflict. For everyone’s sake let’s hope this isn’t he case.

For people in the middle east not just Israel.

Fescue · 02/10/2024 07:23

Viviennemary · 01/10/2024 23:26

I Must say I did feel sympathy for Israel when the hostages were taken and innocent people murdered. But it's gone too far now. Why is it OK for Israel to bomb Lebanon but not OK for Iran to bomb Israel.

The strikes in Lebanon are targeted to destroy terrorists, their weapons or their infrastructure. To drive terrorists out of reach of Israelis' homes.

The Iran regime and its terrorist organisations want the complete destruction of the state of Israel and to drive its people away, if not exterminate them.

That to me is the distinction and why I am prepared to take a side, which is with Israel. Despite the fog of war.

Everyday someone tries to kill Jews. This has been going on for centuries. Peace can happen in the ME, but critically it will only be when there is regime change in Iran. That is clear now to so many people.

justasking111 · 02/10/2024 07:54

SantaPellegrina · 02/10/2024 03:22

Did he really asked that? How incredibly crass.
But in any case I think you'd find they would be in a better position than us after the empire ran out.

He's in the oil industry as were they. People are allowed to discuss their industry you know even in the middle east 🙄.

As it turned out things have changed drastically since then.

badgerpatrol · 02/10/2024 09:32

justasking111 · 01/10/2024 21:40

I've never been to Israel or the middle east so wouldn't know how civilised they are whatever that means.

My son worked in the middle east for a couple of years. He knew a number of arabs who were wealthy. He asked once what would happen if their oil ran out. Their reply, we'd go back to living in tents. I thought that was an interesting attitude.

I would suggest they said that to him with their tongue in their cheek at the naive lad.

The wealth the oil industry hasn't all been spent on race horses and handbags, it's been invested globally in a diverse portfolio of companies/businesses.

I think they will be ok. Just many of the descendants of the wealthy in the UK can still live off the assets and accumulation of wealth of the landed gentry. Yes some fall by the wayside, but if you don't fuck it up money begets money

DoIWantTo · 02/10/2024 09:45

@LuluBlakey1 thanks for explaining that, I had no idea we’d been sending weapons. Maybe I’m bloody naive but I wish we could keep our noses out, not dealing well with the thought of WW3.

@XDownwiththissortofthingX I truly hope you’re right and it’s all just scaremongering. Feels similar to when NK were firing their missiles etc and everyone was worried about the kick of with them and SK with the potential for china to get involved. Perhaps it’s time for me to take another internet break Grin

Robinhair · 02/10/2024 09:48

If you keep your nose out then expect the same in return. And when they come for you there will be nobody, hey think there’s a poem in that!

Robinhair · 02/10/2024 09:58

First they came for the Communists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Communist
Then they came for the Socialists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Socialist
Then they came for the trade unionists
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a trade unionist
Then they came for the Jews
And I did not speak out
Because I was not a Jew
Then they came for me
And there was no one left
To speak out for me

OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · 02/10/2024 10:12

blackcherryconserve · 01/10/2024 19:16

I don't think Israelis feel the same as you as they dash to their bunkers and pray that the Iron Dome defence system doesn't fail them.

I doubt the Palestinian people have fely safe since 1948

Salmoney · 02/10/2024 10:13

OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · 02/10/2024 10:12

I doubt the Palestinian people have fely safe since 1948

Why is that?

OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · 02/10/2024 10:18

Salmoney · 02/10/2024 10:13

Why is that?

Oh please!

Robinhair · 02/10/2024 10:36

OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · 02/10/2024 10:18

Oh please!

That’s not really an answer!

LuluBlakey1 · 02/10/2024 10:42

Livelovebehappy · 01/10/2024 22:49

And why shouldn’t we help Israel with weapons? Hamas are receiving weapons, a lot of them, from Iran. Russia, China and North Korea supply weapons to Iran.

I was answering a question- not offering an opinion. That's part of all the rubbish written here. People can not help inserting their opinions and inflaming the conversation.

LuluBlakey1 · 02/10/2024 10:46

ToBeDetermined · 01/10/2024 22:39

The Gov press release states we are no longer giving Israel weapons.

It has more clarity than the media reports which state 30 out of 350. Which implies we have only stopped a token number.

But according to the Gov- zero weapons. That’s why Israel’s reaction was as scathing as it was.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-suspends-around-30-arms-export-licences-to-israel-for-use-in-gaza-over-international-humanitarian-law-concerns

I paraphrased from it in an earlier post.

I agree we are still complicit as we have sent weapons for 11 out of 12 months of war…it could be too little and too late.

They have suspended 30 out of 350 licences- that leaves 320 weapon types we are still sending them. Where does it say zero?

Salmoney · 02/10/2024 10:49

OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · 02/10/2024 10:18

Oh please!

Indeed, please give us an answer.

OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · 02/10/2024 10:57

Robinhair · 02/10/2024 10:36

That’s not really an answer!

Because if you know history, you know why that was a daft question

candlewhickgreen · 02/10/2024 10:58

Salmoney · 02/10/2024 10:13

Why is that?

Look the history of Palestine and Israel and what led to the current conflict.

Robinhair · 02/10/2024 11:12

OneRarelySeesABrazierTheseDays · 02/10/2024 10:57

Because if you know history, you know why that was a daft question

Well imagine that I don’t and educate me.

Oh know but you won’t, you just want to self indulge on others history and misery without a reason.