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It says something when they are desperate for teachers - and yet still won't even interview you 😂

It would be so much less funny if there wasn’t a recruitment crisis.

The largest education union in the UK has voted to accept the government's 5.5% pay rise for teachers in England

😳 I think it’s time there was an intervention, if she was my family member I would be very concerned

"Underground transgender mafia" 😂😂😂😂

Honestly. Does anyone think she's sensible at this point?

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Jessica Simor KC on twitter:
Jenrick, a former Home Office Minister, says that UK Special Forces are murdering rather than arresting people to avoid the risk of them being allowed to stay. This is an extremely serious allegation of criminality. If he ordered it or has information, he must be held to account.

https://x.com/JMPSimor/status/1840762607382286356

They've all gone batshit!
I think I'm going back to my theory that rising CO2 levels are affecting human cognitive ability

At the risk of deletion, what a stupid fucking prick.

Whatever they are putting in the water at that conference they need to stop 😳

The tweet has his video where he says it.
He needs a talking to. It is a very very serious thing to say. Not a good sign for a potential LOTO but what do I know

@CassieMaddox I am sure it is a figment of his imagination but he is surely endangering our special forces by saying that. In the unlikely event there is any truth in it then he would be breaching the Official Secrets Act by disclosing that.

If they all turn orange then we will know it's a virus and we can lock them in their houses to stop it from spreading. I'd suggest supplying them with some hand sanitiser but I suspect that they've already been at it.

These people are bloody terrifying. Thank the Lord it's only Tory members who apparently have to take them seriously.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2k9385xn7o

When the same questions were put to Badenoch, she said "anyone who's not a Conservative has got to be defeated".

She argued Reform politicians were not "real Conservatives" and "not serious people" but that Reform voters "are our people".

Pressed over whether she would do a deal with Farage's party, she said: "I am always prepared to work with any other party that wants to help us deliver our agenda. I think that's fine in Parliament, but in an election, no."

She added: "At the next election we have to be the centre-right option. If we split that vote, we are going to be out of power for another five years and Labour will destroy this country."

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Centre right?? 🤣

Lol. Centre right. Presumably in a world where Hitler was a tiny bit right wing.

It’s difficult to decide which is the most delusional between Badenoch and Jenrick. I wonder if turnout in the members leadership vote will be as low as it was in the election.

@CassieMaddox I have not got my glasses on and read that as
"anyone who's not a Conservative has got to be defeated deported".

I do wish that the Tories published their membership figures.

172,000 Tory members according to something I read yesterday. Sorry, can't recall exact source. Someone in the Guardian.

Oh come now. Any fule know Hitler was a socialist. You can tell by the name of the party apparently. #sarcasm

Tory leadership contender Kemi Badenoch has said the UK minimum wage is harming businesses

Ofcourse she would say that after her maternity leave comments.

I thought the problem with immigration was it was undercutting wages and making them lower. So, correct me if I’m wrong but higher wages are better unless it’s a minimum wage, in which case they are bad but you mustn’t let immigrants under cut the bad higher wage. But also Brexit is good because it’ll lead to higher wages.

Presume this comes from the same logic as increasing the minimum wage is necessary but increasing public sector wages is bad because it leads to inflation.

There is a certain subsection of Conservative membership that genuinely do strongly dislike maternity rights & minimum wage so I can see why she's saying what she's saying. There are votes in it for her. But they aren't centre right votes.

The problem is that they have to pitch to a tiny section of the public whose views/values are not necessarily replicated in the wider voting public.

Then they become leader and real life/economics gets in the way of implementing the stuff they have promised to the membership who then get arsey.

They also have to contend with their own media who - like the membership - hold more extreme views (or cling to them for clickbait) and so there we see years of Op Eds from the likes of Murray/Frost/Hannan criticising their failure to implement what the membership want and suggesting treachery at the top of the party.

The leader fails. And round they go again.

They can't out Reform Farage. He will say anything, promise anything. And the voters that have switched are not necessarily coming back - YouGuv polling suggested that a large swathe of them would rather not vote at all than vote Conservative ever again. But rather than facing this and making arguments for centrist policies they have to focus on the membership interests.

We still have a month of this nonsense

Two further rounds of voting at Westminster will follow, on 9-10 October, to determine the final two contenders.

Assuming no one pulls out and two candidates remain, Conservative members will cast their vote between 15 October and 31 October to decide the winner.

Just delurking to say Jenrick's little caption on GMTV this morning!

Get Migration Done!

Where to even start with that one! 🙄

Do we think they’re serious? Or is this an elaborate pastiche?