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Good to see the children of the rich and famous doing real jobs?

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mids2019 · 15/09/2024 05:38

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13850955/Jamie-Oliver-daughter-graphic-posts-social-media-work-nurse.html

OK I know she shouldn't have done the below but I actually find it refreshing that the children of of the rich and famous do real jobs and don't take advantage of nepotism. So many of the children of celebrities seem to become models or singers (though you haven't heard their music) it beggars belief.

I am glad some celeb offspring aren't too posh to do important jobs that maybe involve tough clinical conditions.

Jamie Oliver's daughter risks being disciplined for graphic posts

The 21-year-old has shared a series of graphic posts - which could be deemed unprofessional - on social media about her work and her patients.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13850955/Jamie-Oliver-daughter-graphic-posts-social-media-work-nurse.html

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kittensinthekitchen · 15/09/2024 10:34

LizzieVereker · 15/09/2024 10:09

Wow. The spite and personal comments on this thread about some very young people are horrible. Fair enough to call out nepotism when it’s ridiculous I suppose, but don’t most people of every class/profession try to help their kids? Over the years teaching teenagers I have known hundreds of electricians, builders, plumbers, hairdressers, even prison officers give or help their children into work with them.

And describing young women as “jowelly” “sulky” (based on seeing them on TV as a child) and saying that your own privately educated daughter is “howling” at her former classmates is really mean.

It's okay, Mumsnet allow - or rather encourage - personal attacks when the person isn't here to stick up for themselves. Especially against children and young people.

justasking111 · 15/09/2024 10:34

She's young naive with famous parents. Fodder for the media to rip apart and on here it seems.

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 15/09/2024 10:43

xsquared · 15/09/2024 07:03

What's wrong with being a nurse?

Also, I'm not sure JO is that wealthy, I thought he'd gone bankrupt once or twice?

Iwasafool · 15/09/2024 10:44

Luio · 15/09/2024 10:34

Plumbing has a lot of nepotism.

Very true. The plumber I use has a thriving business, we first used him when he was just starting up so I remember his sons being born and hearing about school and so on as they've grown up. He plans on them coming into the business, his ideal is one doing plumbing and one being an electrician. Not sure how they kids feel.

Happii · 15/09/2024 10:45

Illjusthavethebreadsticks · 15/09/2024 10:28

Silly little girl needs more respect for her patients. The pad thrower could well have had dementia. Grow up.

It's still rough AF having someone else's faeces in your mouth let's be real. It doesn't sound like she was blaming them, but being hospitalised for something that's happened to you at work is grim. She didn't use any identifiable information about the patient, nor was she suggesting they did it on purpose.

OrlandointheWilderness · 15/09/2024 10:56

@Iwasafool I apologise, I could've sworn that I'd read DD! Out of interest why do you assume I'm NOT a male nurse?! 😂 I know plenty actually.

OrlandointheWilderness · 15/09/2024 10:58

Although it would be a reasonable assumption to make. - 89% of reg nurses are female. Statistically the chances would be you were talking about your DD.

Gloriia · 15/09/2024 10:59

'I think the Mail doing this is absolutely dreadful. That girl has done nothing to put herself in the public eye and to highlight her like this is just plain old nasty'

I presume her sm is public? In which case of course this will be picked up.

Her comments are disrespectful and verging on mockery. I'd expect she will be asked to desist from posting this type of stuff from her course tutors if not the actual nmc.

Cheeseandcrackers40 · 15/09/2024 11:00

AnImaginaryCat · 15/09/2024 07:09

I think a lot of children of the rich and famous do ordinary jobs. It's just you don't hear about them. I mean in reality there's a lot of rich and famous people with children yet the number of those children attempting celebrity careers isn't that big (relatively).

On the subject are there many "nepo babies" that achive success in their chosen non-ordinary career? Whilst no doubt all nepo babies are advantaged by their parents by the fact they get their foot in the door to get roles or gigs. But if they are mediocre or talentless they surely don't become independently successful unless they have actual talent. They just end up being famous doing nothing other than being the celebrity's child and embarrassingly failing at things (mostly thinking of the two Beckham boys here) and get called influencers.

Other ones i can think of are Will Smith and Jada Pinkett Smith's children all got breaks (because of who their parents are in acting or music and modelling) but I don't think any have achived success, Jaden tried acting and absolutely got the roles because of Will Smith - he wasn't great and his acting career went nowhere. Think Willow is a DJ - she's possibly successful but don't know enough to comment only read an article where she was trying to justify her career and saying it wasn't down to who her parents are. (There's a third but I know nothing of him.)

I reckon Sofia Coppola got awards because deserved them. Whether she'd have ever manged to gain recognition or funding at the very start without Francis Ford Copplola I can't say. Bet there massive amounts of incredibly talent filmmakers out there who don't get the break they deserve.

I'm rambling,.sorry!! Will stop now before I head down a rabbit hole.

I really rate Maya Hawkes acting for sure (daughter of Uma Thurman and Ethan Hawke) I loved her in stranger things and then realised who she was afterwards, seen her in a few things and think she has her mother's talent (soz ethan). Watching her career with interest.

MrsSunshine2b · 15/09/2024 11:04

I don't know, if I had enough money to do whatever I wanted I'd be doing something creative and fun as well.

Paetina · 15/09/2024 11:11

DeCaray · 15/09/2024 07:39

Anna Wintour's son, Charles Shaffer, works as a doctor with a specialty in psychiatry.

His father David was a renowned psychiatrist. Still an example of a child following an extremely successful parent into the same field.

x2boys · 15/09/2024 11:11

OpalSquid · 15/09/2024 06:53

You don’t have to be famous to be a nepo baby though.
It is rife everywhere, I’m a teacher, the teaching world is absolutely full of it. I got my first job because my dad was a ‘super head’ back when these existed - I didn’t even interview. The same for my brothers.
At one school I know, 5 of the 7 TAs are adult daughters of teaching staff.

Very true someone I know trained as a mental health nurse ,went straight into a band six role ,( nurses qualify on band five) from qualifying and has steadily climbed the management ladder ,his Dad used to be on the board of directors at the the Trust he worked for.

poppymango · 15/09/2024 11:13

Entirely off topic but I still can’t believe Jamie Oliver named his daughter Daisy Boo 😂

x2boys · 15/09/2024 11:19

HotCrossBunplease · 15/09/2024 09:55

The McCartney kids famously went to state school. As in Stella and her siblings. Suspect that Beatrice is/was not in state.

I think that celeb kids are often sent private because private schools have better art/music/drama options and those families often value that, plus longer holidays mean more flexibility to go off on exotic trips all summer, plus of course the money is pocket money for them so why not. And they have more influence over school staff/policy, often by paying extra for a bursary here and there. And easier to arrange extra security if that is necessary.

Didn't Stella have models such as Naomi Campbell modelling her designs when she graduated ?

x2boys · 15/09/2024 11:28

PeggyMitchellsCameo · 15/09/2024 08:53

Amanda Holden’s daughter at LFW. Very pretty girl but it’s tough on models with no connections.
Some nepo baby models do have their own presence, but it is hard for a model starting from scratch now.
I saw Kate Garraway’s daughter on stage at the NTA’s this week - every right to be there, a lovely girl, but she was tugging at her dress and looked trapped. She is a beauty, but I hope she doesn’t follow this path.
But I’m sure someone will offer her something - as a young kid it’s hard to turn down the bright lights…

It's the same with anything though i remember Harry Redknapp when he was on I'm a celebrity saying his son Jamie wouldn't have got very far if he didn't have talent, and whilst I don't doubt that ,Jamie also had tha advantage of having a father who had also been a footballer who knew who to contact to get him scouted, somebody equally as talented whose father was clueless about football doesn't have that advantage

LissaGa · 15/09/2024 11:29

I do hope, for Daisy's sake, she doesn't get kicked off her nursing course. Student Nurses have had their careers stalled for similar offences, and I have young women struck off the register the minute they get their NMC PIN. She's only young, if she admits she made a mistake, and keeps her working life off social media, she should be okay.

Yalta · 15/09/2024 11:31

I think there is nepotism in all walks of life.
People getting jobs because their parents are already in the business whether that be performing or plumbing

I think that in years gone by there was nepotism in different professions but nothing on the scale that we have now.

I liken nepotism to being given a ladder to climb the greasy pole. You still have to put in the effort and climb to the top.
Whilst for the rest who are equally talented or have more talent but don’t have anyone handing out ladders have to climb the greasy pole without any help.

The ones who do make it to the top without the familial nepotism, I think get to there because of talent and just a single decision, or meeting someone who slightly adjusted their direction or who gave them a foot hold to jump up from or just absolute blind luck that put them in a certain place at a certain time.

NOTANUM · 15/09/2024 11:35

x2boys · 15/09/2024 11:28

It's the same with anything though i remember Harry Redknapp when he was on I'm a celebrity saying his son Jamie wouldn't have got very far if he didn't have talent, and whilst I don't doubt that ,Jamie also had tha advantage of having a father who had also been a footballer who knew who to contact to get him scouted, somebody equally as talented whose father was clueless about football doesn't have that advantage

I would say that football is one area where nepotism doesn’t get you far. Romeo Beckham was playing for Arsenal youth teams and was dropped, same for other footballers’ kids. They tend to be at a disadvantage- the kids who succeed often tend to be working class from state school in urban areas, precisely because they have kids to play with all the time, not just at training or in matches. Ditto tennis and those sports with obvious winners and losers.

Getonwitit · 15/09/2024 11:37

Galliano · 15/09/2024 07:23

Pretty awful pressure for Daisy that she has journalists scrutinising her social media and making a story out of of a minor over share. Imagine the horror of seeing that story as a 21 year old.

You can't post on SM then whinge about people reading it.

easylikeasundaymorn · 15/09/2024 11:39

HaveYouSeenRain · 15/09/2024 08:40

Not on socials no! Do you want your nurse or doctor to post about you or your parents after they treated you?!

If you recognise yourself from the description of a woman who threw a pad filled with faeces at your young student nurse (which is what she actually said) then you've probably got bigger problems, both mentally and physically, than identifying yourself from an anonymous post online.

TBH I think good for her, it's good for her followers to understand the stuff doctors and nurses have to put up with. As pp's have said, as long as it's anonymous what's the difference between putting it on social media and 'tell all' books like Adam Kay's or Breathtaking (the covid drama with Jo Froggat that was based on the diarys of a consultant who worked through it). They and countless others use anonymised stories of real patients...

xsquared · 15/09/2024 11:43

Skate76 · 15/09/2024 09:33

I think you misread this post.

I don't think so. Why do you think that?

Poster seems to suggest that Daisy can afford to do a lesser paid job because of her dad's wealth.

Iwasafool · 15/09/2024 11:49

OrlandointheWilderness · 15/09/2024 10:56

@Iwasafool I apologise, I could've sworn that I'd read DD! Out of interest why do you assume I'm NOT a male nurse?! 😂 I know plenty actually.

I didn't assume you were male or female, irrelevant to me which is why I didn't say if it was my DD or one of my DSs. Just seemed odd that your immediate assumption was nurse = female. If you are male maybe you think you are the only male nurse in the country.

The old stereotypes take some time to move on don't they. One of my children is married to a doctor (not the nurse) do you have any assumptions on their sex?

Iwasafool · 15/09/2024 11:54

OrlandointheWilderness · 15/09/2024 10:58

Although it would be a reasonable assumption to make. - 89% of reg nurses are female. Statistically the chances would be you were talking about your DD.

Maybe more men would take up nursing if it wasn't for the immediate assumption that nurse = female.

If you recognise that my child could be male or female it seems lazy to jump to your conclusion.

Iwasafool · 15/09/2024 11:54

OrlandointheWilderness · 15/09/2024 10:58

Although it would be a reasonable assumption to make. - 89% of reg nurses are female. Statistically the chances would be you were talking about your DD.

Maybe more men would take up nursing if it wasn't for the immediate assumption that nurse = female.

If you recognise that my child could be male or female it seems lazy to jump to your conclusion.

x2boys · 15/09/2024 11:58

NOTANUM · 15/09/2024 11:35

I would say that football is one area where nepotism doesn’t get you far. Romeo Beckham was playing for Arsenal youth teams and was dropped, same for other footballers’ kids. They tend to be at a disadvantage- the kids who succeed often tend to be working class from state school in urban areas, precisely because they have kids to play with all the time, not just at training or in matches. Ditto tennis and those sports with obvious winners and losers.

I'm not disagreeing that they have to have talent, my point was that both Jamie and actually his cousin Frank lampard had famous footballing fathers ,who not only spotted their sons talent but were in a position to get them noticed
Similarly with the Neville brothers, they lived local ti me when I was young ,both their parents whilst not footballers were local sports stars Neville Neville played cricket for the county and their mum was played netball ,Neville Neville was also involved with Bury football club ,so he would have had contacts to get them noticed, in the first place.