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Good to see the children of the rich and famous doing real jobs?

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mids2019 · 15/09/2024 05:38

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13850955/Jamie-Oliver-daughter-graphic-posts-social-media-work-nurse.html

OK I know she shouldn't have done the below but I actually find it refreshing that the children of of the rich and famous do real jobs and don't take advantage of nepotism. So many of the children of celebrities seem to become models or singers (though you haven't heard their music) it beggars belief.

I am glad some celeb offspring aren't too posh to do important jobs that maybe involve tough clinical conditions.

Jamie Oliver's daughter risks being disciplined for graphic posts

The 21-year-old has shared a series of graphic posts - which could be deemed unprofessional - on social media about her work and her patients.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13850955/Jamie-Oliver-daughter-graphic-posts-social-media-work-nurse.html

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easylikeasundaymorn · 16/09/2024 20:20

Waterboatlass · 16/09/2024 17:56

Are you saying someone with no control over their behaviour (say a dementia patient) deserves no respect then?

no, because as I've said (repeatedly), I don't see how an ANONYMOUS story is disrespectful in any way.
If she'd posted 'disgusting old woman mary jones threw shit at me,' that would be disrespectful
If she'd posted a photo identifying the woman that would be disrespectful.
But I can't see how posting something that nobody else would be able to identify the woman from is disrespectful.
If the woman was compos mentis enough to access her social media and recognise the description of herself THEN she's compos mentis enough not to throw shit at people!

soupfiend · 16/09/2024 20:21

TerfTalking · 15/09/2024 06:17

This isn’t specific to celebs or Daisy Oliver. She’s at Leeds University training at Leeds Teaching Hospitals, DD trained as a HCP at the same institutions. She had students on her course that did similar. They got pulled into the office and told to lock down their social media and remove everything related to the profession and trust.

It’s a maturity thing IMO.

Exactly, theres nothing unusual about this at all, its what a lot of kids do (and I mean people in their 20s), get told off, dont do it again.

All young women seem to think they're celebs or wanna be wags or influencers anyway

Illjusthavethebreadsticks · 16/09/2024 20:22

@easylikeasundaymorn and if that person had dementia, mental health issues etc ? They deserve to be ridiculed ?

mids2019 · 16/09/2024 21:21

Of you look up a list of famous actors in the UK for all those above 50 or so I can't find a single one whose kids aren't actors. Each one has a simmering bio where they all step into their parents footsteps often as child actors with various cameos.

I guess many will be talented but surely this dynastic nature of acting families is locking some out?

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EachandEveryone · 16/09/2024 22:11

Nice to see Kate Garraway and Amanda Holden waving their daughters off today. I like to think they will still have student life and earn a degree rather than put out there like Princess without having any student life. We may never see them on telly, who knows?

justasking111 · 16/09/2024 22:22

Illjusthavethebreadsticks · 16/09/2024 20:22

@easylikeasundaymorn and if that person had dementia, mental health issues etc ? They deserve to be ridiculed ?

She didn't ridicule but pointed out that because some of the feaces went in her mouth she ended up with a bout of gastritis herself.

Efrogwraig · 16/09/2024 22:36

Although her brother...

Good to see the children of the rich and famous doing real jobs?
Waterboatlass · 16/09/2024 23:15

easylikeasundaymorn · 16/09/2024 20:20

no, because as I've said (repeatedly), I don't see how an ANONYMOUS story is disrespectful in any way.
If she'd posted 'disgusting old woman mary jones threw shit at me,' that would be disrespectful
If she'd posted a photo identifying the woman that would be disrespectful.
But I can't see how posting something that nobody else would be able to identify the woman from is disrespectful.
If the woman was compos mentis enough to access her social media and recognise the description of herself THEN she's compos mentis enough not to throw shit at people!

You clearly don't have any understanding of social media policy for nursing and medical students. It isn't part of her studies to be posting details of placements and patients online. This can definitely compromise patients' confidentiality and even put them at risk, especially with a well known name involved.

You also seem to have zero understanding of reasons for patients losing control of their behaviour temporarily, psychiatric episodes, medication errors.

In terms of ethics, autonomy and beneficence is more important than sharing personal info online. It isn't about being 'disrespectful', it's about breeching a very well established framework. I hope the uni don't come down too hard after Daisy's ordeal but she got it wrong in terms of social media.

DysonSphere · 17/09/2024 08:29

Efrogwraig · 16/09/2024 22:36

Although her brother...

Omg seriously? He has an actual book? At what age?

Wow. And people are arguing on this thread that nepotism is just a run of the mill, no big deal thing.

DysonSphere · 17/09/2024 08:46

EachandEveryone · 16/09/2024 22:11

Nice to see Kate Garraway and Amanda Holden waving their daughters off today. I like to think they will still have student life and earn a degree rather than put out there like Princess without having any student life. We may never see them on telly, who knows?

If you doing something 70% of young people are doing, (without any fanfare) even makes the papers and people ohhh and ahhh over it, perhaps it's an indicator that they're already perceived as special princesses. I cringe at stories like this where celebs do mundane ordinary things and it's lionised by the papers as oh so special.

A bit like 'such and such celebrity's child that went to an all expenses paid private school with private tutoring passed their GCSEs/A-levels! Ta da!!! Read all about it!

This is all part of it. They're set up for a high profile career already.

Though I get, poster, you're personally just saying they went uni, and that is a good thing definitely. It's the curated media spotlight (are these set up in advance or chance stories, chance photographers?) and the tone of specialness they give. By contrast I think Princess Beatrice went to a relatively bog standard uni with no media fanfare.

EachandEveryone · 17/09/2024 08:53

DysonSphere · 17/09/2024 08:46

If you doing something 70% of young people are doing, (without any fanfare) even makes the papers and people ohhh and ahhh over it, perhaps it's an indicator that they're already perceived as special princesses. I cringe at stories like this where celebs do mundane ordinary things and it's lionised by the papers as oh so special.

A bit like 'such and such celebrity's child that went to an all expenses paid private school with private tutoring passed their GCSEs/A-levels! Ta da!!! Read all about it!

This is all part of it. They're set up for a high profile career already.

Though I get, poster, you're personally just saying they went uni, and that is a good thing definitely. It's the curated media spotlight (are these set up in advance or chance stories, chance photographers?) and the tone of specialness they give. By contrast I think Princess Beatrice went to a relatively bog standard uni with no media fanfare.

I cringed when Kate said her daughter didnt do as well as she could have due to circumstances. Strongly hinting she went through clearing! So perhaps she hasnt gone to a prestigious one. Dont most celeb kids go to Bristol, Edinburgh or Newcastle?

ParrotPirouette · 17/09/2024 10:04

Lily Allen. Apparently she told her dad she wanted to be a pop star when she grew up.

There is no way that would have happened if he hadn’t phoned his music producer mates.

unmemorableusername · 17/09/2024 11:07

It's funny how nowadays nepo babies take the less famous surname to hide their nepo status but still benefitting from the perks.

I'm looking at you
Mia Threapleton
Margaret Whalley
Mariska Hagarty
Nico Parker
Joely Richardson
Dakota Johnson

EachandEveryone · 17/09/2024 11:09

Apple and Moses won’t have much chance then will they 😀😀😀

StockpotSoup · 17/09/2024 12:23

unmemorableusername · 17/09/2024 11:07

It's funny how nowadays nepo babies take the less famous surname to hide their nepo status but still benefitting from the perks.

I'm looking at you
Mia Threapleton
Margaret Whalley
Mariska Hagarty
Nico Parker
Joely Richardson
Dakota Johnson

Seriously? In every one of those examples, they have their father’s surname - so common as to be virtually universal amongst the children of married parents. And I don’t think Don Johnson is less famous than Melanie Griffith (who is also a “nepo baby” who didn’t call herself Melanie Hedren). Tony Richardson was hardly Joe Schmoe either.

petermaddog · 17/09/2024 13:58

any one using phone in medical faculty fired and if one of her? came in my room i would make sure she was fired

Monkey1z · 17/09/2024 18:27

DysonSphere · 17/09/2024 08:29

Omg seriously? He has an actual book? At what age?

Wow. And people are arguing on this thread that nepotism is just a run of the mill, no big deal thing.

He has a BBC tv show to go with it. I’ve commented several times re this and Matilda Ramsay as they are egregious examples of nepotism from a body with a duty to be inclusive as receives public/taxpayer money. The Ramsay one was particularly repulsive as it also showcased their celeb lifestyle, extravagant homes and a range of activities that the average kid on the street will never get to do (eg stunt man training in LA). In terms of aspiration, the only take out for kids is to be born into a celeb/rich/famous family.

Pumpkittenspice · 17/09/2024 18:52

OpalSquid · 15/09/2024 06:53

You don’t have to be famous to be a nepo baby though.
It is rife everywhere, I’m a teacher, the teaching world is absolutely full of it. I got my first job because my dad was a ‘super head’ back when these existed - I didn’t even interview. The same for my brothers.
At one school I know, 5 of the 7 TAs are adult daughters of teaching staff.

I hear you, I know of a Headteacher’s adult DC who got banned from working with vulnerable people (due to a criminal conviction), which ended her career as a TA. Instead, her Dad allowed her to run the school’s online tutoring scheme, which was all done online. Nepotism at its finest

Pumpkittenspice · 17/09/2024 19:19

Forgot to add, this is a private school. If it makes any difference!

DysonSphere · 17/09/2024 21:30

Monkey1z · 17/09/2024 18:27

He has a BBC tv show to go with it. I’ve commented several times re this and Matilda Ramsay as they are egregious examples of nepotism from a body with a duty to be inclusive as receives public/taxpayer money. The Ramsay one was particularly repulsive as it also showcased their celeb lifestyle, extravagant homes and a range of activities that the average kid on the street will never get to do (eg stunt man training in LA). In terms of aspiration, the only take out for kids is to be born into a celeb/rich/famous family.

That is shocking and quite disgusting frankly. I haven't had a TV for three years and so did not realise that the BBC was so flagrantly nepotistic with regards to these two. I'm surprised they didn't receive any complaints!

mids2019 · 18/09/2024 05:57

I agree.

there are talented children of actor s etc. but you can't argue that the children have had every advantage in terms of getting a foot hold onto an intra competitive industry.

As for the non talented nepo babies, who is making the decisions to allow them to be foisted into the public with the assumption that everyone is so star struck they accept the celebrity status where there is little or no talent? It's being famous for being famous.

and woops....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13859655/Fans-blast-Alice-Dallin-nepo-baby-Bananarama-BBC.html

How did she think people would believe it? It's the idea the public are so gullible they think there is such thing as parents helping their offspring....

Alice Dallin blasted for saying her famous mum didn't 'open doors'

The British singer-songwriter, 32, and daughter of Bananarama star Sara Dallin, caused a stir on X after opening up to the BBC about having 'no easy way in' to the music industry

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-13859655/Fans-blast-Alice-Dallin-nepo-baby-Bananarama-BBC.html

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Paul2023 · 05/10/2024 22:48

I just clicked on the link regarding Richard Brandon’s daughter Holly.
It said Holly dreamed of being a doctor. So why didn’t she then?
It seems she took the easy option and just slid into her role working for her dad’s company. One could say her dad basically invented a role for her to slide into.

LBFseBrom · 06/10/2024 00:07

Holly did qualify and worked as a doctor for a few years. She joined Virgin as an intern in 2008. She has done very well there, I don't get the impression it was an easy option and she's achieved quite a lot in her career, in addition to marrying and having children.

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 06/10/2024 01:50

ivykaty44 · 15/09/2024 08:04

It doesn’t sound pleasant having a “pad” thrown in your face

I actually thought her post brought it home what vile people NHS staff have to deal with. Plus it's not like she was posing for selfies in her uniform on the ward with the patients is it ? The fact that you work as a nurse isn't some State Secret, you're not a spy with a secret identity so I'm a bit bemused as to why taking a picture of yourself in your uniform in thr changing room is such an issue. Almost every young person who gets their first uniform in a uniformed role does it.
if Daisy had been posting selfies posing with Mrs Miggins from up the road and her colostomy bag it would be different or posting information that clearly identified the patient. I think the Nmc guidelines are a bit ridiculous to be honest.