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Good to see the children of the rich and famous doing real jobs?

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mids2019 · 15/09/2024 05:38

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13850955/Jamie-Oliver-daughter-graphic-posts-social-media-work-nurse.html

OK I know she shouldn't have done the below but I actually find it refreshing that the children of of the rich and famous do real jobs and don't take advantage of nepotism. So many of the children of celebrities seem to become models or singers (though you haven't heard their music) it beggars belief.

I am glad some celeb offspring aren't too posh to do important jobs that maybe involve tough clinical conditions.

Jamie Oliver's daughter risks being disciplined for graphic posts

The 21-year-old has shared a series of graphic posts - which could be deemed unprofessional - on social media about her work and her patients.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13850955/Jamie-Oliver-daughter-graphic-posts-social-media-work-nurse.html

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StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 06/10/2024 02:04

And I use the phrase "vile people" referring to the people that deliberately assault nhs staff and paramedics, not people having MH episodes or that are very elderly and in a bad way.

StormingNorman · 06/10/2024 02:08

ThePrologue · 15/09/2024 07:26

But they can't resist slapping themselves all overcsocial media, telling how they doing 'real' jobs.
Sadly, she cannot be dealt with by NMC as she is still a student

She’s 21. Every 21 year old slaps themselves all over social media. She isn’t doing anything different to her mates.

Lovely to know that you wish she could be struck off before she’s even started.

Agespot · 06/10/2024 02:12

AnImaginaryCat · 15/09/2024 07:15

I see everyone already covered the stuff I was rambling about as I wrote my long winded post 🤣

Hey I ready it and enjoyed it, love a good ramble!

Agespot · 06/10/2024 02:18

Monkey1z · 15/09/2024 09:43

That’s a brave admission! I’m not being sarcastic even as most nepo babies will perform the most elaborate of mental gymnastics to prove they are there by talent alone.

and whilst I hate nepotism I love that you call it out as if there is one thing worse than losing out on opportunity, it’s being told that nepotism does not exist and having to conclude that you just didn’t have what it takes.

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Excuse me if I'm getting what your saying wrong, but I think what they meant by ,"I didn't even interview", is saying that they just got the job, skipped the interview stage because of who their dad was

AliceMcK · 06/10/2024 03:11

Nepotism has always been around, look at anyone who works for the “family” business or and company that has “and sons” in the name. Trades are very common father to son businesses, I could rattle off a dozen or so people I know who were trained by their dads and took over from them or who are training their kids now.

My own DB ex tradesman set up a family business with his wife so he didn’t have to do the physical side of his trade forever, he trained our other brother up who in-turn trained his step son, his step son used it as a way to earn money in the school holidays before going onto something else. He also gave our DF a job when he was no longer physically able to do the job he’d done his entire life. My DB who now runs the business with his wife has all 3 of his DDs working for him. I can say absolutely one of them would never be able to hold down a job for anyone else, she has way too many health issues as well as being completely flaky, she gets a lot of leeway because it’s her parents business, but they acknowledge she isn’t amazing at her job, will pull her up and promote non family members who deserve it.

For the most part it dosnt bother me it’s the way of the world. In my DBs instance he created the roles for his DDs so no one was missing out, the same with most trade jobs. It’s when people who have earned a position miss out because of nepotism it annoys me. Or when the person is so incompetent it effects others.

Someone mentioned celebs children going to Harvard and other Ivy League schools, how many of them have paved the way with financial donations taking away opportunities for others. look at the scandal with Felicity Huffman, William H Macy and other rich celebs.

And omg there is nothing worse than watching a movie with a talentless actress or actor that only landed the part because doors were opened for them.

Xyz1234567 · 06/10/2024 05:07

Slightly off topic but I cannot understand posts alluding to the amazing talent, intelligence and wealth of Jamie Oliver.
He is absolutely disgusting. His business went bankrupt owing millions of pounds to ordinary people in wages, rent arrears etc. What does he do? Just walks away and starts again, paying himself millions instead of paying back what he owes. He makes me sick and it makes me even sicker that anyone will give him the time of day, much less look up to him.

ThePrologue · 06/10/2024 06:47

StormingNorman · 06/10/2024 02:08

She’s 21. Every 21 year old slaps themselves all over social media. She isn’t doing anything different to her mates.

Lovely to know that you wish she could be struck off before she’s even started.

There is a Code of Conduct
As explained in previous posts
So what if every other 21 year old does it
It is not behaviour that would be supported if someone were on the professional Register
So be as arsey as you like to me. Just understand, perhaps, why those in professional roles, who interact with the public in such a role, particularly where trust is required, need to be held at a higher standard...

HaveYouSeenRain · 06/10/2024 08:25

Everyone defending her should think about how they would feel if their nurse or doctor posted about them on social media. Even if not with name it would be humiliating and unprofessional

StormingNorman · 06/10/2024 08:41

HaveYouSeenRain · 06/10/2024 08:25

Everyone defending her should think about how they would feel if their nurse or doctor posted about them on social media. Even if not with name it would be humiliating and unprofessional

Would it though? 1. You would never know it had been posted. 2. Even if you did you wouldn’t know it was about you. 3. Nobody else would know it about you. 4. If you throw a shit filled nappy in a nurse’s face, you should feel the shame of your actions. Patients should also adhere to a code of conduct that includes not assaulting medical staff.

Waterboatlass · 06/10/2024 08:44

StormingNorman · 06/10/2024 02:08

She’s 21. Every 21 year old slaps themselves all over social media. She isn’t doing anything different to her mates.

Lovely to know that you wish she could be struck off before she’s even started.

Rules about social media are made clear at the start, before they get anywhere near patients. There are good reasons for these including patient safety and confidentiality. Of course a repeat offender or a particularly inappropriate example should potentially face being withdrawn. Same as with any disciplinary issue. I don't think she should be in this instance but she absolutely shouldn't have posted on SM and should have been pulled up about it.

Waterboatlass · 06/10/2024 08:46

StormingNorman · 06/10/2024 08:41

Would it though? 1. You would never know it had been posted. 2. Even if you did you wouldn’t know it was about you. 3. Nobody else would know it about you. 4. If you throw a shit filled nappy in a nurse’s face, you should feel the shame of your actions. Patients should also adhere to a code of conduct that includes not assaulting medical staff.

Who mainly wears 'shit filled nappies '? Use your brain.

cardibach · 06/10/2024 09:21

OpalSquid · 15/09/2024 06:53

You don’t have to be famous to be a nepo baby though.
It is rife everywhere, I’m a teacher, the teaching world is absolutely full of it. I got my first job because my dad was a ‘super head’ back when these existed - I didn’t even interview. The same for my brothers.
At one school I know, 5 of the 7 TAs are adult daughters of teaching staff.

That's pretty unusual in my experience (35 years, state and independent schools). I've never known it happen anywhere.

Monkey1z · 06/10/2024 10:24

Agespot · 06/10/2024 02:18

Excuse me if I'm getting what your saying wrong, but I think what they meant by ,"I didn't even interview", is saying that they just got the job, skipped the interview stage because of who their dad was

You have read my comment wrong. That’s exactly what poster is saying; they are recognising that they have benefited from nepotism hence me saying ‘that’s a brave admission’; most people who benefit in this way are deluded enough to think that they succeeded through sheer talent. This poster is rare in that she accepts the nepotism she benefited by.

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 06/10/2024 12:51

Waterboatlass · 06/10/2024 08:46

Who mainly wears 'shit filled nappies '? Use your brain.

She didn't say it was a nappy.
she said the woman "threw her pad in my face"

people wear pads for all sorts of reason, it doesn't mean they have mental health issues etc that would mean they weren't well aware that throwing a pad covered in poo in a nurses face is not acceptable. I might be wearing a pad because I'm on my period and I've got so drunk that I've pooed myself on it.

this is the problem with society. We are so quick to make excuses for people's terrible behaviour that even something as disgusting as throwing a shit filled pad in someone's face has to be excused. We all know plenty of nursing staff get assaulted in the line of their work, otherwise the police wouldn't be having to attend hospitals to deal with violent patients and they wouldn't need security in A&E.

Waterboatlass · 06/10/2024 14:42

It was not her job to report this on social media.that is the absolute bottom line. 'Society' should not have been made aware this happened. That is made very clear. She's obviously had a horrible experience but clinicians are not there to raise awareness of work conditions using one contemporaneous example. That is highly unethical.

HaveYouSeenRain · 06/10/2024 14:49

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 06/10/2024 12:51

She didn't say it was a nappy.
she said the woman "threw her pad in my face"

people wear pads for all sorts of reason, it doesn't mean they have mental health issues etc that would mean they weren't well aware that throwing a pad covered in poo in a nurses face is not acceptable. I might be wearing a pad because I'm on my period and I've got so drunk that I've pooed myself on it.

this is the problem with society. We are so quick to make excuses for people's terrible behaviour that even something as disgusting as throwing a shit filled pad in someone's face has to be excused. We all know plenty of nursing staff get assaulted in the line of their work, otherwise the police wouldn't be having to attend hospitals to deal with violent patients and they wouldn't need security in A&E.

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You are focusing on this specific incident not on her behaviour. It was out of line and unprofessional to share details about her patients on social media.

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 06/10/2024 15:57

@HaveYouSeenRain we will have to agree to disagree as you won't change my mind

x2boys · 06/10/2024 16:17

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 06/10/2024 12:51

She didn't say it was a nappy.
she said the woman "threw her pad in my face"

people wear pads for all sorts of reason, it doesn't mean they have mental health issues etc that would mean they weren't well aware that throwing a pad covered in poo in a nurses face is not acceptable. I might be wearing a pad because I'm on my period and I've got so drunk that I've pooed myself on it.

this is the problem with society. We are so quick to make excuses for people's terrible behaviour that even something as disgusting as throwing a shit filled pad in someone's face has to be excused. We all know plenty of nursing staff get assaulted in the line of their work, otherwise the police wouldn't be having to attend hospitals to deal with violent patients and they wouldn't need security in A&E.

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In social care ,nursing situation, s adult nappies tend to get called pads
People don't wear them for fun ,usually it's because they have severe disabilities and or Dementia ,I used to work in Dementia care and also have a disabled child ,who was in pads( nappies) untill about 9/10
Pads ( nappies ) do get thrown sometimes in fact all kinds of things most people don't want to talk about happening these kinds of environments
It's very unprofessional for student nurses to write a public blog about them.

Waterboatlass · 06/10/2024 16:25

StiffyByngsDogBartholomew · 06/10/2024 15:57

@HaveYouSeenRain we will have to agree to disagree as you won't change my mind

Well no, you don't have to change your mind but it's very simple. She has breached policy which is in place to protect patients. that is her priority as a clinician, not posting her views or experiences on social media. Patient confidentiality and dignity isn't conditional upon behaviour.

Agespot · 07/10/2024 03:10

Monkey1z · 06/10/2024 10:24

You have read my comment wrong. That’s exactly what poster is saying; they are recognising that they have benefited from nepotism hence me saying ‘that’s a brave admission’; most people who benefit in this way are deluded enough to think that they succeeded through sheer talent. This poster is rare in that she accepts the nepotism she benefited by.

Aha! Yes I see what you mean, yes very true. Most as you say think it's their own talent, so to admit they got it without has got to hurt.
Sorry, I should just read what someone is saying instead of assuming

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